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Archive 2021 · Official: Tamron 35-150mm F/2-2.8 Di III VXD (Model A058)

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p.33 #1 · Official: Tamron 35-150mm F/2-2.8 Di III VXD (Model A058)

photosbyjaron wrote:
I think if you want to have a one lens solution and find yourself using the 24-34mm range often when out and about, this would probably not be the route you'd want to go. My wife and I are keeping one of our copies of the Sigma 24-70, and if we were going somewhere where we could only take one lens, we'd probably still take that one over this just for that extra bit on the wide end. That being said, I haul all my gear in one pack, so I already have a 14-24 on hand to cover the...Show more →

My feeling exactly, plus a suspicion that the Tamron and the 24-105 F4G would produce indistinguishable images in the 35-105 mm range when F5.6 - 8 - 11 - 16.

Nov 02, 2021 at 11:27 AM

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p.33 #2 · Official: Tamron 35-150mm F/2-2.8 Di III VXD (Model A058)

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My feeling exactly, plus a suspicion that the Tamron and the 24-105 F4G would produce indistinguishable images in the 35-105 mm range when F5.6 - 8 - 11 - 16.

Depending on what body you're using, past f/8 diffraction is going to make most anything with the same focal length start to generally look the same honestly. I'd imagine at f/11 that any 24-70/24-105/28-200/35-150 etc. will all generally start to look the same in resolution.

Nov 02, 2021 at 11:43 AM

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p.33 #3 · Official: Tamron 35-150mm F/2-2.8 Di III VXD (Model A058)

ruthenium wrote:
My feeling exactly, plus a suspicion that the Tamron and the 24-105 F4G would produce indistinguishable images in the 35-105 mm range when F5.6 - 8 - 11 - 16.

If you are not pixelpeeping that is what happens to most lenses out there.

In the case of the Tamron, you pay and buy it for its f2.0 - f2.8 capabilities.
And of course for it�s focal range (if it fits your needs). That�s why I personally said I wouldn�t compare those two lenses.

BTW. I owned the 24-105 F4 twice. Generally speaking, I liked it. But as a travel lens, I didn�t like it�s restriction of only offering F4 while at the same time being relatively bulky/heavy. Tried it twice, in the end it had to go. However,I still consider it a very good lens.

Nov 02, 2021 at 11:44 AM

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p.33 #4 · Official: Tamron 35-150mm F/2-2.8 Di III VXD (Model A058)

photosbyjaron wrote:
Depending on what body you're using, past f/8 diffraction is going to make most anything with the same focal length start to generally look the same honestly. I'd imagine at f/11 that any 24-70/24-105/28-200/35-150 etc. will all generally start to look the same in resolution.

Agreed, as far as the sharpness is concerned. The 24-105 G is blamed for a less than perfect contrast by some, which is bothering me when using the lens when cloudy. This is why I am curious as to whether the Tamron might be better in this respect.

Nov 02, 2021 at 12:15 PM

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p.33 #5 · Official: Tamron 35-150mm F/2-2.8 Di III VXD (Model A058)

Regarding the much discussed 24-105mm on this thread:

I have shot literally thousands of shots with the 24-105mm f4. First with the Canon lens on Canon cameras, then with the Nikon (24-120mm), then A-mount Sigma 24-105mm and finally the Sony FE version. It is a very versatile focal range; and, of course, a workhorse lens for years, for many professional photographers. The Sony version has great optics and nice stabilization. I highly recommend the Sony version when asked about it.

A few years ago, I took a foreign trip with the 24-105mm, a 35mm f1.4 and 85mm f1.4. I stitched a lot of shots for wider than 24mm. Some of my favorite shots were landscapes using the zoom; however, when showing my shots to friends, family and the local camera club, I got the �oooh�s and aaahh�s� from the wider aperture shots taken with the primes � even the mountain landscapes. The same thing happened several times after that.

I have done a lot of volunteer event photography. At the point that I dropped my 24-105mm in favor of using two cameras with a 35mm f1.4 and 85mm f1.4 (both shot between f1.8 and f2.8) all of a sudden, everyone wanted me to shoot their events. My shots went from fairly ordinary to impactful. Yes, the 24-105 can deliver subject separation at 105mm, but not like faster lenses. The new Tamron 35-150mm might just be perfect for such, with the ability to shoot f2.0 to f2.2 under 60mm and 150mm at f2.8.

Several years ago, I hurt my back and couldn�t lug heavy gear on a European trip. I acquired an RX1R with the 35mm f2 and mostly shot it at f2. Many of the shots were amazing, so I see the new Tamron lens as being able to somewhat replicate that experience of 35mm f2.

I finally sold my 24-105mm due to lack of use.

Yesterday, I went to Marc Alhadeff�s Tamron 35-150mm post and was just amazed at the quality of images he obtained on the A1 and A7RIV from this lens, viewing at 100% on my 5K, 27" monitor. He has posted dozens of full sized, high-resolution images, many shot wide-open at all major FL�s. I immediately ordered one (PROCAM has them in stock) and it is coming, tomorrow. I plan to pair with my GM 12-24mm for travel and street, assuming that I actually like the lens.

Marc�s link posted by �tsdevine�: https://www.flickr.com/photos/sonyalphablog/albums/72157720134968180

Yes, it is big and heavy, but for me, it is worth the effort. I got used to carrying up to two bodies and a pile of primes. When I need small and light, I�ll use my Tamron 28-200mm and Sony 20mm f1.8, understanding that my images might be a bit less exciting.

We�ll see how it goes. Maybe, I'll cancel the GM 70-200mm f2.8 II I have on pre-order. I know, I know, it is even sharper with less flare than the Tamron.

Nov 02, 2021 at 12:21 PM

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p.33 #6 · Official: Tamron 35-150mm F/2-2.8 Di III VXD (Model A058)

zeitlos wrote:
If you are not pixelpeeping that is what happens to most lenses out there.

In the case of the Tamron, you pay and buy it for its f2.0 - f2.8 capabilities.
And of course for it�s focal range (if it fits your needs). That�s why I personally said I wouldn�t compare those two lenses.

BTW. I owned the 24-105 F4 twice. Generally speaking, I liked it. But as a travel lens, I didn�t like it�s restriction of only offering F4 while at the same time being relatively bulky/heavy. Tried it twice, in the end it had to go. However,I still...Show more →

I know what you mean. This is why nowadays I usually have the 16-35GM or 35GM on the camera, instead of the 24-105 G. This is also the reason for being interested in the rumored mark II 24-70GM.
With reference to the Tamron, the description of the 24-105G as "being relatively bulky/heavy" is debatable.

Nov 02, 2021 at 12:23 PM

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p.33 #7 · Official: Tamron 35-150mm F/2-2.8 Di III VXD (Model A058)

Sorry if posted already�

https://sonyalpha.blog/2021/11/02/tamron-35-150mm-f2-2-8-di-iii-vxd/

-Tim

Nov 02, 2021 at 04:25 PM

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p.33 #8 · Official: Tamron 35-150mm F/2-2.8 Di III VXD (Model A058)

Thanks.Tamron hit the bull's eye (again).
We can be very lucky with so many good options for the Sony system. And it can only be a benefit when companies think outside the box. Hope they will stick to this strategy in the future.

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p.33 #9 · Official: Tamron 35-150mm F/2-2.8 Di III VXD (Model A058)

One thing I was concerned with is the lack of OSS and how that would affect shots at 150mm. I don't often shoot below 1/250 handheld anyways at any focal length, but it does appear that I can get consistently sharp shots if I concentrate and do my part down to 1/20th at 150mm. I get maybe half to one third sharp shots at 1/10th of a second. I honestly didn't expect better than that and have never shot a Sony body much slower handheld regardless.

Edited to add: I've uploaded some cropped images I've taken testing specifically the IBIS with this lens at very low shutter speeds. They are now available at https://www.dropbox.com/sh/s5qyefoat8yw8aj/AADtwwpuKQOh3o9jbpe7hSgYa?dl=0

1/20 is about the limit that my hands can hold the camera still enough for reasonably sharp images. Regarding the shots with the globe, there is one at f/4 taken on a tripod for comparison to those that are handheld.

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p.33 #10 · Official: Tamron 35-150mm F/2-2.8 Di III VXD (Model A058)

zeitlos wrote:
Thanks.Tamron hit the bull's eye (again).
We can be very lucky with so many good options for the Sony system. And it can only be a benefit when companies think outside the box. Hope they will stick to this strategy in the future.

I agree that Marc's tests show the 35-150 to be a good lens. However, if you like to shoot wide open at f2.8 like I do, his review includes a very telling comparison graph. The 70-180 nails an Excellent rating in the center at each focal length tested and the lens even hits Outstanding in several of the f4 and 5.6 comparisons. The 35-150 rates only Very Good wide open at f2.8 and has no Outstanding ratings, although it does hit Excellent stopped down a bit.

However, in real world use, if you don't mind the weight and the price, the 35-150 will be a cool choice for many including pros. It's easy to see that optically it's still a very satisfying lens, judging by Marc's review.

If you are shooting with an A1 or A7R4, some will seek out the absolute sharpest.

Now, that we are all getting to know more about this lens, I can't help but wonder what a smaller and less expensive $1099 35-150 f2.8 might have been like.

Nevertheless, Tamron does keep hitting the ball long and deep!

Nov 02, 2021 at 05:44 PM

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p.33 #11 · Official: Tamron 35-150mm F/2-2.8 Di III VXD (Model A058)

That's right, but in the end it always comes back to the same very basic fact: The 70-180 is not a 35-150. In this respect, it only helps to a limited extent if the 70-180 is even better in some areas. Unless one is willing to work with two camera bodies and / or two lenses. Who can / wants to do that has a very good alternative with the 70-180 or a 70-200mm. But again: what a blessing to have such "problems"

Nov 02, 2021 at 05:59 PM

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p.33 #12 · Official: Tamron 35-150mm F/2-2.8 Di III VXD (Model A058)

zeitlos wrote:
That's right, but in the end it always comes back to the same very basic fact: The 70-180 is not a 35-150. In this respect, it only helps to a limited extent if the 70-180 is even better in some areas. Unless one is willing to work with two camera bodies and / or two lenses. Who can / wants to do that has a very good alternative with the 70-180 or a 70-200mm.

Yep, excellent point. If its unique focal range all in one lens is the priority, lots to love!

Also really like your reminder about "what a blessing to have such problems!"

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p.33 #13 · Official: Tamron 35-150mm F/2-2.8 Di III VXD (Model A058)

Sounds like it is a very nice lens (although not without compromises of course). I continue to be so angsty about buying (or not buying) this lens. I have only been shooting a year with full frame and only in very limited circumstances since I�ve been stuck in the house due to covid. I keep putting this lens in the cart then putting Sigma 24-70 in the cart and going back and forth.

I bought 5 lenses since starting my journey (all primes except Sigma 100-400 which I'm not sure I'm going to keep) and I want to swap most of them at this point unfortunately. I tend to be very persnickety about image quality and AF speed and only mildly persnickety about weight/size/cost but I�ve also never tried to take a 24-70 and 70-200 combo out and about either (or buy even one lens that costs over $1500 usd) so I�m in very new territory here!

I�ve been renting to try different things but that adds up. I already tried the Sigma 24-70 and liked it but since so many new lenses have been released I've been waiting to see where the chips fall. I�m starting to think I just need to pick either to get a Sigma 24-70 since I know I like it and a Tamron 70-180 (don't think my husband will sign off on the 70-200 GMII) and see how I feel or pull the trigger on this 35-150 and see how I feel and consider it a learning experience if I want to swap the lenses out for something else.

My biggest concerns at this point with the 35-150 is the sharpness relative to Sigma 24-70 and Tamron 70-180 (sounds like a non issue since I use the A9), the AF speed (also probably minor since the major upgrade is to GM IIs which is also major upgrade to $$$$ if I want the ultimate speed for tracking), flare resistance which has cropped up as an issue sometimes now that I�ve been leaving my house and shooting outdoors and then the most intangible thing the rendering (I tend to be very sensitive to this and can't explain why I don't like certain lenses and it's hard for me to know until I get my hands on the lenses and play with them). Hmmm�.

Nov 02, 2021 at 06:05 PM

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p.33 #14 · Official: Tamron 35-150mm F/2-2.8 Di III VXD (Model A058)

On the 50Mpix of the A1 the results are excellent wide open

I'm sold already, just let me buy it

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Hopefully this week something will happen as more and more shops are including the Tamron in their offer.

@-LYS- , it really comes down to the focal length range imho. I'm a bit surprised that relatively few people are as excited as me with a lens starting at 35mm and ending at 150mm, while keeping rather fast aperture. For me that's simply the perfect range for "people" shots with nice blur/isolation (as I've mentioned a couple of times already probably

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24-70 is also versatile, but the whole range below 35mm is a bit wasted for me when I just want to take pictures of my family. Sure, occasional wide shot is nice, but it needs to stay occasional for me

. Also, as you probably noticed on the Sigma, 70mm is not that long of a tele...
70-200 on the other hand seems a lot less flexible to me, I just don't see how you can get that wide/normal look with a lens starting at 70mm...
So, for general shooting when you don't mind switching lenses/added weight & bulk: 24-70 + 70-200 seems like a good choice. For mainly people/family/portraits though, I'd choose the single Tamron option (AF seems good enough according to Marc's review).

Nov 02, 2021 at 06:20 PM

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p.33 #15 · Official: Tamron 35-150mm F/2-2.8 Di III VXD (Model A058)

Thanks! I really see why this would be a useful lens as well. Maybe I need to trust my instincts and try out this lens instead of the 24-70/70-180 option. I think for my uses I can get away with carrying either 24-70 or 70-180 but I'd certainly be missing out on one or the other and since I have two bodies I could haul around both without switching lenses but that is probably over the top even for me (and many would argue I am already over the top since I carry around this equipment just to get pictures of my darling 2 year old doing normal life stuff). I enjoyed having the 24 the one week I rented the Sigma but I have only come across one instance so far where I NEED wider than 35 (which was at the petting zoo at the fair where I was crammed into a tiny pen with hoardes of animals and people).

Buying this lens will give me an excuse to buy something wider than 35 though (zoom or prime) which my husband probably won't like!

Nov 02, 2021 at 06:48 PM

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p.33 #16 · Official: Tamron 35-150mm F/2-2.8 Di III VXD (Model A058)

-LYS- wrote:
I carry around this equipment just to get pictures of my darling 2 year old doing normal life stuff

Hey, that's the most important stuff! And believe me, it's a lot easier when the kid is not aware of the camera. Mine are a bit older now and they are actively and intentionally avoiding it (no matter what I say/promise), so taking pictures became a lot harder

. Even a camera upgrade didn't help much

.

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-LYS- wrote:
Sounds like it is a very nice lens (although not without compromises of course). I continue to be so angsty about buying (or not buying) this lens. I have only been shooting a year with full frame and only in very limited circumstances since I�ve been stuck in the house due to covid. I keep putting this lens in the cart then putting Sigma 24-70 in the cart and going back and forth.

I bought 5 lenses since starting my journey (all primes except Sigma 100-400 which I'm not sure I'm going to keep) and I want to swap most of...Show more →

I feel you. The decision on this lens made me kinda angsty as well and generally on the fence until after using it for a few days, especially with such rave reviews of the 70-200mkII, which made me second guess and wonder whether I should just save up to try to splurge on a GMII holy trinity.

Honestly, I would say the Tamron is a fairly expensive 3rd party lens to purchase unless you know that it fits your needs/wants. I knew going in that this lens would suit my shooting style. I've noticed generally in my shooting that well for instance when I'm shooting a sunset, during those 2-4 minutes of amazing light, depending on the location we're at, I tend to change focal lengths a lot but generally always within two generalized groups. I'm either shooting on the wider end between 14-35mm or I'm shooting longer out between 35-200mm. With the announcement of this lens, this whole last fall chasing aspens around Colorado I was mentally taking notes of how many fewer lens changes I would've needed to do if I had a 16-35/35-150 setup, so I knew when this was available for pre-order that I wanted it (if it performed as well as my Sigma, which it generally does except at 50mm where my copy of the Sigma happens to be sharpest).

Just to make the decision harder for you, I'll reiterate just how awesome of a lens the Sigma 24-70 is. If we didn't have two Sigma 24-70s in the house, I think I'd have a harder time deciding to swap one out for this Tamron. The Sigma 24-70 is extremely easy to love, especially if you have access to EDU pricing. It's truly a beautiful and sharp lens for under $1k. Similarly, the Tamron 70-180 is a true bargain for what you get. Tested against the new GMII, it appears the 70-180 may even be competitive in sharpness, even if not in autofocus. Those two lenses really represent two of the best dollar for dollar lens options on e-mount. I'd love to see how the new 28-75G2 compares to the Sigma. Sony users have a ridiculously good predicament of capable lens options.

My wife has been using the Sigma 24-70 as her sole lens since its release at the beginning of 2020 and loves it. She has however occasionally wished she had a longer range, especially when we're shooting landscapes at distance when I'm using my 100-400 (usually under 300). I think part of the reason she was okay with the plan of me swapping out my 24-70 for this 35-150 is so she can use it when I'm busy using one of my longer telephotos.

Nov 02, 2021 at 06:59 PM

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p.33 #18 · Official: Tamron 35-150mm F/2-2.8 Di III VXD (Model A058)

Oh no! The angst continues! I tend to be really persnickety and I had no problems with the Sigma short of it not having GMII level of AF & weight reduction (which would be nice to have if my assumptions are right but not sure I could sell my husband on the premium). Maybe I should just flip a coin!

Nov 02, 2021 at 07:24 PM

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p.33 #19 · Official: Tamron 35-150mm F/2-2.8 Di III VXD (Model A058)

j4nu wrote:
Hey, that's the most important stuff! And believe me, it's a lot easier when the kid is not aware of the camera. Mine are a bit older now and they are actively and intentionally avoiding it (no matter what I say/promise), so taking pictures became a lot harder

. Even a camera upgrade didn't help much

.

Oh no! My daughter is already notoriously uncooperative when it comes to my photography. In addition to refusing to look at the camera and being constantly in motion (or talking) she also went through a phase for awhile where she'd just start crying and screaming whenever I pulled out my camera thus thwarting any photography activities. Maybe this will all be moot when she refuses to be photographed and I'll have to sell all my equipment anyway ;-)

Nov 02, 2021 at 07:27 PM

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p.33 #20 · Official: Tamron 35-150mm F/2-2.8 Di III VXD (Model A058)

One thing I really like about the 35-150 and the 28-75 G2 is the new rear cap. Nice and thin, with a good fit. Tamron finally got rid of those loose fitting very thick rear caps. I hated them and always only use my Sony ones.

Silly, I know...

Nov 02, 2021 at 07:28 PM

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