p.17 #1 · Official: Tamron 35-150mm F/2-2.8 Di III VXD (Model A058)
IslandMed wrote:
I have traveled with one lens only just once - three weeks all over India. I took 2470GM than.
If I were going today, I would take 35150 - hell a lot of opportunities in exchange of 250 grams of weight difference.
With addition of 1635GM I would be absolutely covered, but even without it 35150 will cover 80+% of the shots I have actually done and much-much more.
If you were going for 3 weeks trip to India or Morocco with just one lens, what would be your choice?)
My travel setup is A7R3 and A7R2 along with the Batis 25/85 and either Sony 35 2.8 or Batis 40. I’d never make a 3 week trip with only 1 camera and 1 lens. Shit happens and I’ve seen it happen shooting the Kumb Mela where 3 photographers had their cameras take a dip into the Ganges and ruin the rest of their trip.
I always carry a backpack that holds the gear I’m not using. I find I am more in tune using a prime, focusing on images that suite that focal length.
Carrying a heavy lens for 3 weeks, 12 hours each day
Is not something I would enjoy.
p.17 #2 · Official: Tamron 35-150mm F/2-2.8 Di III VXD (Model A058)
IslandMed wrote:
If you were going for 3 weeks trip to India or Morocco with just one lens, what would be your choice?)
I just tested the Tamron 28-200 mm on a trip to Colorado for fall colors. I ended up getting some wildlife too. I shot the exact same images swapping lenses on a tripod with my high end primes. There was a difference in IQ between the zoom and the primes when pixel peeping on my large monitor as expected. But in normal usage that Tamron held up surprisingly well. Of course these were generally shots at taken at landscape apertures (f8-f16) and at landscape distances.
I imagine if I were shooting India or Morocco the subjects would be more people/architecture/lifestyle/food orientated where the subjects and wider apertures would show more differences.
Still I would not hesitate to travel with this as my sole lens. Combining with the Tamron 17-27mm f/2.8 would be a great setup for a simple lightweight but capable kit. The combined weight of the two lenses is only 995gms almost 200gms less than the 35-150. The combined price is only $1628 as opposed to $1899.
The only thing the 35-150 provides is a wider aperture. With the noise handling capabilities of the Sony sensor, I can handle that in a travel situation.
In studio environment I will use my 2.8 zooms and/or my fast primes since my whole collection is available without size weight consideration.
Truthfully, the real advantage I see for this lens is for event shooting like weddings. But, in that environment there is often low light issues. I find the lack of OSS a problem there.
p.17 #3 · Official: Tamron 35-150mm F/2-2.8 Di III VXD (Model A058)
chez wrote:
My travel setup is A7R3 and A7R2 along with the Batis 25/85 and either Sony 35 2.8 or Batis 40. I’d never make a 3 week trip with only 1 camera and 1 lens. Shit happens and I’ve seen it happen shooting the Kumb Mela where 3 photographers had their cameras take a dip into the Ganges and ruin the rest of their trip.
I always carry a backpack that holds the gear I’m not using. I find I am more in tune using a prime, focusing on images that suite that focal length.
Carrying a heavy lens for 3 weeks, 12 hours each day
Is not something I would enjoy....Show more →
Nice setup, but would you use it for multi-days ski touring trip?)))
But which lens from your list you can call "ultimate travel lens"?)))
Tamron marketing statement is clear and quite close to fair, imo.
p.17 #4 · Official: Tamron 35-150mm F/2-2.8 Di III VXD (Model A058)
I shoot a lot of weddings mainly with primes. I carry a 28-70 and a 70-200 just in case I need them or if I break a prime. This lens could potentially replace both if sharp.
p.17 #5 · Official: Tamron 35-150mm F/2-2.8 Di III VXD (Model A058)
1bwana1 wrote:
I just tested the Tamron 28-200 mm on a trip to Colorado for fall colors. I ended up getting some wildlife too. I shot the exact same images swapping lenses on a tripod with my high end primes. There was a difference in IQ between the zoom and the primes when pixel peeping on my large monitor as expected. But in normal usage that Tamron held up surprisingly well. Of course these were generally shots at taken at landscape apertures (f8-f16) and at landscape distances.
I imagine if I were shooting India or Morocco the subjects would be more people/architecture/lifestyle/food orientated where the subjects and wider apertures would show more differences.
Still I would not hesitate to travel with this as my sole lens. Combining with the Tamron 17-27mm f/2.8 would be a great setup for a simple lightweight but capable kit. I imagine the combined weight would not be that different from the 35-150.
Thank you!
28200 is the lens I never used and have heard a lot of good things about it. Really interested to try it one day.
For multy days hiking I take 1635GM and 100400GM. While 1635GM is sourt of untouchable (astro etc.), swap of 1,6kg 100400GM for light 28200 sounds sugar for the shoulders. Is 28200 really that good? None of my friends have it and on our island you can rent only Sony/Sigma lenses.
p.17 #6 · Official: Tamron 35-150mm F/2-2.8 Di III VXD (Model A058)
onthebeam wrote:
Good points all. As an owner of the extraordinary 70-180, I have confidence that it will be a great performer in likely in line with GM standards. Of course for those who shoot bursts, it won't do the highest frame rate that Sony saves for itself.
How do you find the 70-180 at 180mm. What sort of shutter speed can you go down to. I would want to hand hold the 35-150 at 150 and 1/60 sec to make it an option for me.
p.17 #7 · Official: Tamron 35-150mm F/2-2.8 Di III VXD (Model A058)
IslandMed wrote:
Nice setup, but would you use it for multi-days ski touring trip?)))
But which lens from your list you can call "ultimate travel lens"?)))
Tamron marketing statement is clear and quite close to fair, imo.
Cheers!
I’ve done a multi day snow shoeing trip from cabin to cabin with basically this kit minus the second camera. What problems do you foresee?
I don’t have one “ultimate travel lens” as I don’t believe in that. One lens would have too many compromises to accommodate the range of subjects I’d want to shoot.
p.17 #8 · Official: Tamron 35-150mm F/2-2.8 Di III VXD (Model A058)
IslandMed wrote:
Thank you!
28200 is the lens I never used and have heard a lot of good things about it. Really interested to try it one day.
For multy days hiking I take 1635GM and 100400GM. While 1635GM is sourt of untouchable (astro etc.), swap of 1,6kg 100400GM for light 28200 sounds sugar for the shoulders. Is 28200 really that good? None of my friends have it and on our island you can rent only Sony/Sigma lenses.
I use T28-200 all the time for street and hiking. You can check my pictures in Sony FE images thread or T28-200 images thread. I find it to be excelent for "all i one" super light and compact lens for travel.
It holds amazingly well vs most primes, sure if you pixel peep or print for billboards it wont be as good as some better primes but it's not that far off and probably more than good enough for most people and atm the best super zoom by miles.
p.17 #9 · Official: Tamron 35-150mm F/2-2.8 Di III VXD (Model A058)
chez wrote:
I’ve done a multi day snow shoeing trip from cabin to cabin with basically this kit minus the second camera. What problems do you foresee?
I don’t have one “ultimate travel lens” as I don’t believe in that. One lens would have too many compromises to accommodate the range of subjects I’d want to shoot.
Lens change during strong wind. To much hustle to keep sensor clean. In some areas (Scotland in winter just as example) it is quite close to impossible.
Just different schools)))) Primes are fantastic, but in bad weather or rapidly chanding circumstances i honestly prefer zooms. People are different.)
p.17 #10 · Official: Tamron 35-150mm F/2-2.8 Di III VXD (Model A058)
IslandMed wrote:
Lens change during strong wind. To much hustle to keep sensor clean. In some areas (Scotland in winter just as example) it is quite close to impossible.
Just different schools)))) Primes are fantastic, but in bad weather or rapidly chanding circumstances i honestly prefer zooms. People are different.)
I rarely change lenses out in the field. If need be I’ll take two cameras with wide on one and semi tele on the other. I like keeping to one prime to allow my vision to hone into that focal length. I find it liberates me from continually looking at different focal lengths and strengthens my images.
p.17 #11 · Official: Tamron 35-150mm F/2-2.8 Di III VXD (Model A058)
chez wrote:
But Tamron is calling the lens the ultimate travel lens where people might be carrying the lens for weeks at a time, all day long, not for a few hours to maybe a day at an event. Don’t know your experience lugging around a big lens in humid hot countries, but I have done plenty and the weight of this lens is a huge issue for travel.
If a person travels with f/2.8 zooms anyway, then, sure, this might be a good thing for them. It's not the way we'd travel, but, as indicated in some earlier posts, not everyone feels that way.
p.17 #12 · Official: Tamron 35-150mm F/2-2.8 Di III VXD (Model A058)
freaklikeme wrote:
If a person travels with f/2.8 zooms anyway, then, sure, this might be a good thing for them. It's not the way we'd travel, but, as indicated in some earlier posts, not everyone feels that way.
I’ve read posts where people travel with their 100-400 it in fact 200-600…so I guess any lens can be labeled a travel lens.
p.17 #13 · Official: Tamron 35-150mm F/2-2.8 Di III VXD (Model A058)
chez wrote:
I’ve read posts where people travel with their 100-400 it in fact 200-600…so I guess any lens can be labeled a travel lens.
Sure, but those are the travel versions of superteles, and if you're traveling for wildlife encounters or you like those focal lengths for landscapes, then they're the most reasonable lenses to pack.
p.17 #14 · Official: Tamron 35-150mm F/2-2.8 Di III VXD (Model A058)
nick williams wrote:
How do you find the 70-180 at 180mm. What sort of shutter speed can you go down to. I would want to hand hold the 35-150 at 150 and 1/60 sec to make it an option for me.
Tack sharp. The lens does not have built in IS. However, it's so light I find I can hold down to about 1/60th with good results. Of course that shutter speed with any lens will blur if subject if moving.
p.17 #15 · Official: Tamron 35-150mm F/2-2.8 Di III VXD (Model A058)
IslandMed wrote:
Lens change during strong wind. To much hustle to keep sensor clean. In some areas (Scotland in winter just as example) it is quite close to impossible.
Just different schools)))) Primes are fantastic, but in bad weather or rapidly chanding circumstances i honestly prefer zooms. People are different.)
The a1 solves for this problem. My guess is the soon to be released a7IV will as well.
p.17 #16 · Official: Tamron 35-150mm F/2-2.8 Di III VXD (Model A058)
nick williams wrote:
How do you find the 70-180 at 180mm. What sort of shutter speed can you go down to. I would want to hand hold the 35-150 at 150 and 1/60 sec to make it an option for me.
My Tamron 70-180mm is nice and sharp at 180mm. I have nerve damage in my hands from injuries and so they tremble these days. So, I can't reliably hand hold at SS 1/2 of FL with any lens these days. The lens does take good advantage of the camera IBIS though. I can hand hold with reasonable results at 1 X the FL which would be 1/180. Since IBIS gives at least 3 stops of advantage I think someone with good stability skills should be able to shoot 180 at 1/60 which is only about 1.5 stops.
p.17 #17 · Official: Tamron 35-150mm F/2-2.8 Di III VXD (Model A058)
1bwana1 wrote:
My Tamron 70-180mm is nice and sharp at 180mm. I have nerve damage in my hands from injuries and so they tremble these days. So, I can't reliably hand hold at SS 1/2 of FL with any lens these days. The lens does take good advantage of the camera IBIS though. I can hand hold with reasonable results at 1 X the FL which would be 1/180. Since IBIS gives at least 3 stops of advantage I think someone with good stability skills should be able to shoot 180 at 1/60 which is only about 1.5 stops.
When DP review looked at the lens they said they had to keep the shutter above 1/200 because IBIS does not work well at the longer end. I stopped me getting the lens.
p.17 #19 · Official: Tamron 35-150mm F/2-2.8 Di III VXD (Model A058)
1bwana1 wrote:
The a1 solves for this problem. My guess is the soon to be released a7IV will as well.
Good point.
But, let be realistic, you will not risk your usd6,5K during 50 knts with snow/rain.)))
I have never ever seen a single person with the set of primes in the mountains.
Assuming 35150 to have GMish IQ (which most probable is not the case, but))) - would I prefer it to 25/2, 35/2.8 or 40/2 and 85/1.8? Sure. In wild places with rapidly changing environment zoom's versatility clearly wins (imo). Only short end is not covered - 1635GM is immortal)))).
And, with all my due respect, I can hardly understand people complaining about trade of loss of 1 1/3 stop of light for the long end of 150mm. 150/2.8 portraits on GM70200 are beautiful. I should not and would not compare them to 85GM (magical lens), but 85/1.8...
Thus we clearly see that our friendly society has been divided into Believers and Atheists: some people believe in ULTIMATE TRAVEL LENS, some not.)))))
Good bless us all!))))
Amen))))
p.17 #20 · Official: Tamron 35-150mm F/2-2.8 Di III VXD (Model A058)
IslandMed wrote:
Good point.
But, let be realistic, you will not risk your usd6,5K during 50 knts with snow/rain.)))
I have never ever seen a single person with the set of primes in the mountains.
Assuming 35150 to have GMish IQ (which most probable is not the case, but))) - would I prefer it to 25/2, 35/2.8 or 40/2 and 85/1.8? Sure. In wild places with rapidly changing environment zoom's versatility clearly wins (imo). Only short end is not covered - 1635GM is immortal)))).
And, with all my due respect, I can hardly understand people complaining about trade of loss of 1 1/3 stop of light for the long end of 150mm. 150/2.8 portraits on GM70200 are beautiful. I should not and would not compare them to 85GM (magical lens), but 85/1.8...
Thus we clearly see that our friendly society has been divided into Believers and Atheists: some people believe in ULTIMATE TRAVEL LENS, some not.)))))
Good bless us all!))))
Amen))))...Show more →
Well said !
It's not really the issue of people being either atheists or believers, but some of them believing only they are right and spourting out absolute statements, that cannot be proven in any way (but by their own mind).
As in life in general, a bit more tolerance and open-mindness goes a long way .
!