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p.3 #1 · Z-Cameras Wildlife Images and Tips Thread


So today, I finally learned about the Spirit Bear (Kermode bear). I did not know. Just click the link....

https://www.canadiangeographic.ca/article/animal-facts-kermode-bear

That entire Pacific NW is a precious gem of wildlife habitat and wildlife.

Good Light
Robert

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Jun 04, 2021 at 04:16 PM
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bs kite wrote:
These are excellent wildlife images! That habitat is impressive. I think my fav is the bear on the rock. Birds have no issue with defecating anytime, anywhere. Perfect timing.

Interesting James: I pull my 500 PF back from the deep background the same way you do. I've learned where the manual collar is without seeing it, and which way to turn it.

These images are comparable to any/all high-quality wildlife images I've seen, on any site, and they're better than most.


Thank you for the nice words Robert.



Jun 04, 2021 at 04:25 PM
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p.3 #3 · Z-Cameras Wildlife Images and Tips Thread


Couple more, I've been watching the Osprey a lot lately.

Hot Pursuit on a cloudy morning
z7ii 500pf 1/1000 f6.3 iso280



Right down the barrel
z7ii 800 5.6e 1/1600 f5.6 iso2000



With the triple grab!!
z7ii 800 5.6e








Jun 04, 2021 at 06:09 PM
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My skills are not as ‘accomplished’ compared to many of you. That said, I’ll share a few things that I have learned using the “Z”s as that is supposed to be, in part, the theme of this thread. Thanks for starting this Bruce.

Since June 2019 I have shot only with Z6 bodies. I now have only the Z6-II, but my images are only from the first generation Z6. I have no DSLR bodies. What I like to shoot and how are likely very different from many of you so my thoughts may not work for you.

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Wonderful bears, Jim. That is a magical area.

My eye went straight to the merganser's eye and then I laughed as it too went straight out the back.

Regarding the shutter, are you solely using Electronic First Curtain Shutter or fully electronic (silent) shutter on the z6? I too find benefit using EFCS (on D850 in Qc) with long lenses but am looking forward to full electronic when I add a mirrorless body.

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Jun 04, 2021 at 06:34 PM
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Wonderful bears, Jim. That is a magical area.

My eye went straight to the merganser's eye and then I laughed as it too went straight out the back.

Regarding the shutter, are you solely using Electronic First Curtain Shutter or fully electronic (silent) shutter on the z6? I too find benefit using EFCS (on D850 in Qc) with long lenses but am looking forward to full electronic when I add a mirrorless body.

Andy


Andy: Thanks for the nice words. The Merganser shot was of course pure luck. I was with six other photographers who all took shots, but I was the only lucky one who got “all of it”.

I am using using the EFCS shutter most of the time except in really bright light when I really have to use a shutter speed much faster than 1/2000 which is the top limit of EFCS. I really have not used the full electronic shutter hardly at all so as not to be affected by rolling shutter if I find myself suddenly having to deal with any noticeable motion. Moreover, the Nikon Z bodies sensor readout is no where near as fast as the Sony A1/A9 bodies. So Sony shooters have more leeway than us Nikon types when shooting in all electronic situations. I have never shot with the D850 so I cannot make any comparisons to the Z6-II or other Z bodies. I suppose this is where the planned Z9 might be in your wheelhouse for full electronic as I assume fast sensor readout would be a must for that body. But not in my budget.



Jun 04, 2021 at 07:18 PM
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p.3 #6 · Z-Cameras Wildlife Images and Tips Thread


Why does a Z6II work for the type of wildlife images I try to make? Today's selection of pictures is a typical reflection of my portfolio. If I am not working with tones and form, I am trying to produce photos that reflect the life lived by my subjects. These images are almost always made at the break of day. Take the crane photo shot today, it was taken at 5:40 a.m., just as the sun was breaking the horizon.
The deer photos (two different individuals) were made for a location that I like to hike. Both taken after the crane image. This hike allows me to hide at the edge of clearing and shoot through the trees into a meadow.
For all of the pictures, I set auto ISO to a max of 6400, used my sitting body with elbows on knees to make a VR supported tripod, and relied on single point AF to focus on the eye through holes in the vegetation. It is these high ISO situations where I find the Z-system to be more than competent for wildlife photography.
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Jun 06, 2021 at 02:53 PM
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Every image in this thread is so vibrant and so perfectly focused!!

I've owned my Z6 since launch only having used point and shoots prior, so it's taken time for my lens collection to slowly grow. How on earth do you guys stay so stable when shooting? What kind of handling accessories would you recommend?

Oh is there also just a base teleconverter I can apply to my FTZ adapter to give my zooms a boost to actually get a clear picture of something far out in the trees vs. cropping down to a quarter of my frame anytime I want my subject better framed?

Thanks so much,
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Jun 06, 2021 at 05:31 PM
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Every image in this thread is so vibrant and so perfectly focused!!

I've owned my Z6 since launch only having used point and shoots prior, so it's taken time for my lens collection to slowly grow. How on earth do you guys stay so stable when shooting? What kind of handling accessories would you recommend?

Oh is there also just a base teleconverter I can apply to my FTZ adapter to give my zooms a boost to actually get a clear picture of something far out in the trees vs. cropping down to a quarter of my frame anytime I want
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Hello Tyler,
My experience throughout the years suggest that the quality of your final image relies on 4 factors.
1. Your technique at the point of image capture. By technique, I am referring to how you are supporting your lens, the decisions you make with AF point selection (see #2 below), and the shutter speed you are using. For lens support, I always try to work from a tripod. I use tripods even though VR tech is great. If I do not have access to a tripod, I look for a way to physically position my body in a way that minimizes camera shake. If I am relying on VR, I generally use the sport mode on my lens. With respect to shutter speed, faster is better. As a result, I will push my ISO up to 6400 if it will allow me to shoot at 1/300 second or faster.

2. Eye contact or point of interest contact matters. Be sure that you are focusing on the most important/interesting part of your subject. I often will use single point AF so I can put the AF point right on the eye of my subject. Deer have a long nose. If I use dynamic or one of the "group" modes (not called group AF but wide AF on the Z's), the point of focus will often fall on the nose.

3. Optics matter... Quality optics are #3 on my list, not number one. While I will often use a 500PF, I could get the same quality image from a 200-500VR. So while better optics will make a small difference, good (better than average) optics matter. Using a teleconverter on anything but the absolutely best lenses will diminish the sharpness of your images.
You indicated that you are using a zoom and want to add a converter. Unless your zoom is a 70-200 f/2.8, 200-400VR, 120-300 f/2.8, or 180-400, I do not recommend you add a converter to your lens.
If you are looking for more focal length on a budget, consider buying Nikon 200-500VR, Tamron 150-600G2, or Sigma 150-600 Contemporary lens.

4. The post work you do matters as much as the effort you invest in taking the picture. In fact, the details and quality of images displayed in this post reflect a careful effort to optimize color, composition, and details in Lightroom, Capture One, Photoshop, etc... Learning how to process your work will help you to extract every last bit of detail from your photographs.

I hope this helped.
regards,
bruce



Jun 06, 2021 at 06:35 PM
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p.3 #9 · Z-Cameras Wildlife Images and Tips Thread


Bruce,

Thanks very much for the lens recommendations! You mentioned typically a tripod is preferred when handling huge glass, my only question now would be; do you run all the swivel and angle locks loose to track birds typically?

How do you quietly locate and find the wildlife you capture? These may be dumb questions but I've mainly done city landscape and portrait imaging, so just being able to take a picture of a leopard or a bird mid dive feels otherworldly to me.

Tyler



Jun 07, 2021 at 06:10 PM
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ghostman5 wrote:
Bruce,

Thanks very much for the lens recommendations! You mentioned typically a tripod is preferred when handling huge glass, my only question now would be; do you run all the swivel and angle locks loose to track birds typically?

How do you quietly locate and find the wildlife you capture? These may be dumb questions but I've mainly done city landscape and portrait imaging, so just being able to take a picture of a leopard or a bird mid dive feels otherworldly to me.

Tyler


For longer heavier glass, you would want to look into a gimbal head. Like a Wimberley WH-200 or something similar.




Jun 08, 2021 at 05:25 PM
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Killdeer peepin' along
z7ii 500pf 1/3200 iso400 f7.1




Jun 08, 2021 at 05:29 PM
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p.3 #12 · Z-Cameras Wildlife Images and Tips Thread


ghostman5 wrote:
Bruce,

Thanks very much for the lens recommendations! You mentioned typically a tripod is preferred when handling huge glass, my only question now would be; do you run all the swivel and angle locks loose to track birds typically?

How do you quietly locate and find the wildlife you capture? These may be dumb questions but I've mainly done city landscape and portrait imaging, so just being able to take a picture of a leopard or a bird mid dive feels otherworldly to me.

Tyler


Hello Tyler,
I typically do not chase my wildlife, instead I find a location that exhibits signs of wildlife and I wait. If I do any moving with the tripod and lens, it tends to be slow and deliberate in order to improve my angle on a subject.
As for controlling the legs and head, I set the leg height and leg angle based on the angle in which I want to shoot. Unless I am photographing something in a tree (pretty infrequent), I tend to work close to the ground. I often sit on the earth with the legs splayed around in front of my body. To control the lens, I use a ball head (RRS BH-55 or BH-40), I set the tension to fairly tight and keep the pan unlocked. By doing this, I can move the lens all around. If I am shooting flight, like cranes or herons, I use a gimbal head.

As for approaching wildlife, well this is different based on the species I am intending to photograph and the location. There are some places that one can freely move about and make amazing wildlife images. In contrast, there are locations in which you must sit in a blind, wear camo, or shoot from a car. Spending time in nature and hiking w/ binoculars is the one thing you can do to improve your wildlife photography. Study the animals that you want to photograph, take notes about when and where you see them, and learn ways to stop/look/study their behavior.
I spend a lot of time in the woods, and try to recognize the signs of relaxed vs stressed behavior. When my subjects are relaxed, I can spend more time with them and make better images.

I hope this helped.
bruce



Jun 08, 2021 at 07:50 PM
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Z7II - Shooting wildlife (Grizzlies and Gray Wolves) in Finland with Konsta Punkka




Jun 11, 2021 at 10:35 AM
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Just keeping the thread alive, as I know there are others who are Z6 Wildlife shooters.
The first two are from this week. Both images were shot before 6:30 am... this is when the 24MP sensor in the Z6 really shines. I have also found that I love using AFS non-VR super tele lenses with the Z6. Because the F-mount VR is always on when using the FTZ, the camera battery drains too quickly. The sensor stabilizer provides a little help (maybe a stop w/ a long lens), but the real bonus is the ultra accurate focus...
Third shot is from pre-Covid, but reveals some of the sensor's wonderful characteristics.


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Jun 16, 2021 at 08:29 PM
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p.3 #15 · Z-Cameras Wildlife Images and Tips Thread


Added to the Image Threads under Cameras
https://www.fredmiranda.com/forum/topic/1457926


https://www.fredmiranda.com/forum/topic/1457926/0#13783935

(went with cameras as the original post mentions this is more focused on whether the cameras can handle doing wildlife photos)



Jun 18, 2021 at 07:09 AM
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Sandhill cranes kung-fu fighting
z7ii 300 2.8vrII
(Those kicks were fast as lightning)




Jun 18, 2021 at 05:21 PM
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Sweet shot!


Jun 18, 2021 at 05:43 PM
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z7ii, 500pf




Jun 19, 2021 at 02:44 PM
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z7, older pic taken before I sold the 7 for 7ii




Jun 19, 2021 at 03:07 PM
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z7ii 500pf

Black Crowned Night Heron




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