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p.1 #1 · A9 Repair Rant


Hey guys and gals,

Just need a place to rant, apologies in advance. My Sony a9 that I have owned now for just over three years started giving me the "error, turn camera off" message when switching to and attempting to use the mechanical shutter.

I sent it in for a quote and certified Sony repair shop here in Canada are quoting me $1800 CDN (barf), that includes a discount for some reason from Sony. There is no explanation on why the shutter needs to be replaced, only that they hooked it up and diagnostics are telling them it needs to be changed out.

Needless to say I think I have about 20,000 shutter clicks on the mechanical shutter, this is ridiculous. I have thoroughly enjoyed my Sony camera having used it for weddings and for my own family memories but the shelf life for the shutter is atrocious (my own experience).

Not sure how or if I will get it fixed but I am definitely questioning the durability of these cameras.

A nice welcome into 2021 for me

Edited on Jan 11, 2021 at 02:01 PM · View previous versions



Jan 11, 2021 at 12:32 PM
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p.1 #2 · A9 Repair Rant


What Sony repair is telling you is that the A9 is a throw away camera


Jan 11, 2021 at 01:01 PM
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p.1 #3 · A9 Repair Rant


Leonberger wrote:
Hey guys and gals,

Just need a place to rant, apologies in advance. My Sony a9 that I have owned now for just over three years started giving me the "error, turn camera off" message when switching to and attempting to use the mechanical shutter.

I sent it in for a quote and certified Sony repair shop here in Canada are quoting me $1800 CDN (barf), that includes a discount for some reason from Sony. There is no explanation on why the shutter needs to be replaced, only that they hooked it up and diagnostics are telling them it needs to be
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Unfortunate, what happened to you, sorry for that.

"but the shelf life for the shutter is atrocious"
without data to back that up, this is just too hard an exclamation, it likely is just bad luck on your side, giving the stated duration of 500.000 cycles on Sony's side.

N.B. We use two A9s for weddings and the shutter is still running fine.



Jan 11, 2021 at 01:09 PM
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p.1 #4 · A9 Repair Rant


Thanks for reply. For sure I get and agree that the science is on their side as their shutter life expectancy number doesn't come out of thing air. Just really bummed out and am shocked by the price tag of the repair.




Jan 11, 2021 at 01:14 PM
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p.1 #5 · A9 Repair Rant


Have you tried sending it, or contacting Sony directly about the issue instead of going through a third party? It sounds like Sony may be subsidizing the parts, but not the labor?


Jan 11, 2021 at 01:53 PM
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p.1 #6 · A9 Repair Rant


1bwana1 wrote:
Have you tried sending it, or contacting Sony directly about the issue instead of going through a third party? It sounds like Sony may be subsidizing the parts, but not the labor?


Thanks for the response. I have reached out directly to Sony. The actual breakdown is as follows:

Part:
-$2076.76

Labour
-$285.00

Sony Discount
- $711.76

Shipping
- $10

Tax
-$215

Total: $1875 ish

Labour is not that bad its the price of the part!



Jan 11, 2021 at 01:57 PM
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p.1 #7 · A9 Repair Rant


Leonberger wrote:
Thanks for the response. I have reached out directly to Sony. The actual breakdown is as follows:

Part:
-$2076.76

Labour
-$285.00

Sony Discount
- $711.76

Shipping
- $10

Tax
-$215

Total: $1875 ish

Labour is not that bad its the price of the part!


Yikes, that is high!

I had a Canon 1ds2 shutter replaced for something like $400-500 quite a few years ago (also very low shutter count, but no discount). I wonder if modern shutters on all cameras are now high priced parts or that is just Sony. I guess we'll hear about Canon and Nikon mirrorless shutter costs soon enough.



Jan 11, 2021 at 02:19 PM
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p.1 #8 · A9 Repair Rant


They probably don't have the part & don't want to go through the hassle of pretending to fix it.


Jan 11, 2021 at 02:22 PM
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p.1 #9 · A9 Repair Rant


Crap, $1625 and change when converting CAD to USD for just the part


Jan 11, 2021 at 02:30 PM
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p.1 #10 · A9 Repair Rant


Leonberger wrote:
Thanks for the response. I have reached out directly to Sony. The actual breakdown is as follows:

Part:
-$2076.76

Labour
-$285.00

Sony Discount
- $711.76

Shipping
- $10

Tax
-$215

Total: $1875 ish

Labour is not that bad its the price of the part!


Let me translate, however, for those not used to Canadian dollar prices.

Price of shutter ($2076.76 - $711.76) or $1,365 Canadian dollars that is about $1,070 US dollar.

Labour - $285 Canadian dollars or about $225 US dollars

Total - just about $1,300 US plus tax (and yes taxes are high in Ontario (13%) and you pay tax on both the part and the labour)

So about half the cost of a used camera to replace the shutter. Certainly not ideal and I agree the part is expensive even after the "discount," but if it were me I think it is still worth replacing the shutter unless you want to run the camera only in electronic shutter which may work for some purposes with the A9.



Jan 11, 2021 at 02:42 PM
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p.1 #11 · A9 Repair Rant


That is incorrect.

The whole shutter unit can not be that high. They have missed a decimal there!


The error message and their diagnosis is consistent with a replacement of this part:

“shutter charger unit”

A-2179-332-A

(https://sony.encompass.com/item/11118866/Sony/A-2179-332-A/)

What they seem to be hell bent on changing and charging you for is this:


A-2179-330-A

(https://sony.encompass.com/item/11118865/Sony/A-2179-330-A/)

This one is literally half a camera, consisting of the sensor, shutter unit and the front chassis.

Tell them nicely what they ought to be doing.

If they refuse, contact one of their (ie Sony) big honchos on Linkdn (all their big bosses are there) and state your complaint.

You will be surprised how fast things move!

Good luck!

Leonberger wrote:
Thanks for the response. I have reached out directly to Sony. The actual breakdown is as follows:

Part:
-$2076.76

Labour
-$285.00

Sony Discount
- $711.76

Shipping
- $10

Tax
-$215

Total: $1875 ish

Labour is not that bad its the price of the part!





Jan 11, 2021 at 02:53 PM
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p.1 #12 · A9 Repair Rant


Deal directly with Sony. I dropped my a9/100-400 and the lens broke off at the mount. I got a quote to repair the lens (amazingly the body was not injured) from a Sony authorized repair facility in the $2K range. At a local camera shop event with a Sony rep, he suggested I send it to Sony Pro Support for a quote. The quote came back at under $350!!!.


Jan 11, 2021 at 03:19 PM
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p.1 #13 · A9 Repair Rant


I just want to say thank you very much from the bottom of my heart for all the insightful and helpful feedback. This is why I love coming here. Thanks again all. I have some homework and contacting of people to be doing. I will update when I hear more!

Cheers!



Jan 11, 2021 at 03:34 PM
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p.1 #14 · A9 Repair Rant


I had the shutter replaced on the a7rII a while back. Dug up the quote, parts were $210, labor was $345 after Pro Support discounts were applied.

I initiated the repair via Sony Pro support, but the work was done by precision camera. I can't imagine that the parts for an a9 shutter replacement is much more expensive that, since the high FPS is done via e-shutter. Whoever you are dealing with, it sounds like they are trying to replace the entire sensor...



Jan 11, 2021 at 03:46 PM
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p.1 #15 · A9 Repair Rant


If you can't find a reasonable repair cost, you should just sell your A9 to someone who only needs silent shutter and buy a replacement with a working mechanical shutter.

It'll sell at a discount if the mechanical shutter doesn't work, but that discount may be less than actually repairing it. Some A9 owners don't ever take their A9 off of silent shutter.



Jan 11, 2021 at 04:01 PM
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p.1 #16 · A9 Repair Rant


The insane parts cost of electronics really upsets me. Anyone break their back phone glass? -- I think selling it AS_IS might be the best choice. It's probably the most cost effective an environmentally impactful solution. Maybe this will save you money upfront and leading to an A9ii or iii in the future.

teddoman wrote:
If you can't find a reasonable repair cost, you should just sell your A9 to someone who only needs silent shutter and buy a replacement with a working mechanical shutter.

It'll sell at a discount if the mechanical shutter doesn't work, but that discount may be less than actually repairing it. Some A9 owners don't ever take their A9 off of silent shutter.





Jan 11, 2021 at 04:39 PM
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p.1 #17 · A9 Repair Rant


As already mentioned that quote must be for the entire new sensor and shutter and surrounding stuff. No way the crappy old shutter in the A9 costs that much. The A9 still has that 5FPS A7II era shutter. Should be a lot less to replace if just the shutter.


Jan 11, 2021 at 04:58 PM
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p.1 #18 · A9 Repair Rant


Leonberger wrote:
I sent it in for a quote and certified Sony repair shop here in Canada


here are the sony pro support centers in canada, try contacting them directly, as was suggested earlier:

https://pro.sony/en_CA/support-services/services-support#TEME500600BusinessAndProfessionalSupport-services-support




Jan 11, 2021 at 06:15 PM
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p.1 #19 · A9 Repair Rant


arbitrage wrote:
As already mentioned that quote must be for the entire new sensor and shutter and surrounding stuff. No way the crappy old shutter in the A9 costs that much. The A9 still has that 5FPS A7II era shutter. Should be a lot less to replace if just the shutter.


Yeah, according to this article, "Shutter replacement costs generally fall into the range of US$200 to US$400, plus the hassle of having to send the camera to the Sony service center."



Jan 11, 2021 at 06:26 PM
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p.1 #20 · A9 Repair Rant


That's outrageous for a shutter! I spent about $350 for a Canon pro body shutter replacement though that was 8 years ago.

It may be there is a junior camper reading an error code from the computer. That reminds of a car dealer that said I needed a whole new transmission and then I found someone to fix it locally for about 10% of the cost.

EBH



Jan 11, 2021 at 08:22 PM
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