Once you get used to shooting at water level via the flip screen it is hard to ever go back to even a low crouching position like I used to do. Sometimes you do get some interesting water patterns from a crouched position but most of the time I prefer the super soft foregrounds and backgrounds that having the camera a duck eye level provides.
Wonderful and impressive images, Geoff! The low angle makes the difference and a huge one at that. I am hooked that way, too but it is not always feasible. I remembered a case recently when I hurried to a spot to capture an on-going action but I had to settle with an elevated bank of the water body... .
3, 4, 6 and 7 are my favorites Geoff. I agree the lower the angle the chance of a very engaging image increases. I find it harder to track and compose the way you are doing this yet still do it sometimes for the rewarding results.
lovely images, Geoff. seems to me that the bokeh and IQ are significantly better with the 7RM4 + 600mm as compared to the A9 a+200-600, or is it just me?
KCollett wrote:
Quality images, Geoff. #3 and #7 are my faves.
Thanks Ken
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sum1sgrampa wrote:
Just unreal. Your work never ceases to amaze.
Thanks
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Dragonfire wrote:
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Thanks Frank
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AGeoJO wrote:
Wonderful and impressive images, Geoff! The low angle makes the difference and a huge one at that. I am hooked that way, too but it is not always feasible. I remembered a case recently when I hurried to a spot to capture an on-going action but I had to settle with an elevated bank of the water body... .
Thanks Joshua...yep...if the action happens you sometimes can't be this low or aren't ready while being this low. It is certainly harder to follow something quickly when deployed on the ground with the flip screen
Joshua
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morris wrote:
3, 4, 6 and 7 are my favorites Geoff. I agree the lower the angle the chance of a very engaging image increases. I find it harder to track and compose the way you are doing this yet still do it sometimes for the rewarding results.
Morris
Thanks Morris it is certainly harder to track and pan. I make use of the Sony's tracking so it does that and I just try to concentrate on the composition.
kdacharya wrote:
lovely images, Geoff. seems to me that the bokeh and IQ are significantly better with the 7RM4 + 600mm as compared to the A9 a+200-600, or is it just me?
One has to expect that having 61MPs vs 24MPs and having a $13K prime lens vs a $2K zoom lens (with a 1.4TC on it in these two images) is going to favour the 7RM4 over the A9II images in this thread.
But I will also add a few qualifiers in regards to these specific images. The two A9II/200-600 images do have the 1.4TC on them, they were shot handheld from kayak where as the RIV/600 images where shot from on shore, camera/lens on the ground. Therefore the only A9 file that you can even see the bokeh (as the first shot really doesn't have any defined bokeh to even look at) is the Wood duck pair. That shot has the shoreline tree line background maybe about 30 feet behind the perch in comparison to the A7RIV shots that basically have a background about 0.5km-1km away and getting so low (probably 2 feet lower than in the kayak) helps that even more.
Bottom line, these images are not a good sample to compare between. A more fair comparison would be to check some of my older images in the Sony 200-600 thread, shot with the A9 or A9II and shot in a similar way to the A7RIV shots (ie ducks from shoreline with camera on the ground). Or alternatively checking out some A9/A9II shots with the 600GM in the 600GM image thread. Those examples may give you a better idea of the differences. Ideally viewing the images on my Flickr page would be even better as IQ on Flickr is a lot better than the way images are displayed on FM via the FM Upload feature (especially if viewing on a 4K or 5K display). Also if viewed on Flickr you can click on View All Sizes (found under the download link in lower right of each image) and view up to 6K resolution if available. If 6K is not available when you check View All Sizes then the largest size available is equal to the final crop of the RAW file to give you an idea of the MPs after cropping and that should also help do a better comparison between different camera/lens combos.
arbitrage wrote:
One has to expect that having 61MPs vs 24MPs and having a $13K prime lens vs a $2K zoom lens (with a 1.4TC on it in these two images) is going to favour the 7RM4 over the A9II images in this thread.
But I will also add a few qualifiers in regards to these specific images. The two A9II/200-600 images do have the 1.4TC on them, they were shot handheld from kayak where as the RIV/600 images where shot from on shore, camera/lens on the ground. Therefore the only A9 file that you can even see the bokeh (as the first shot really doesn't have any defined bokeh to even look at) is the Wood duck pair. That shot has the shoreline tree line background maybe about 30 feet behind the perch in comparison to the A7RIV shots that basically have a background about 0.5km-1km away and getting so low (probably 2 feet lower than in the kayak) helps that even more.
Bottom line, these images are not a good sample to compare between. A more fair comparison would be to check some of my older images in the Sony 200-600 thread, shot with the A9 or A9II and shot in a similar way to the A7RIV shots (ie ducks from shoreline with camera on the ground). Or alternatively checking out some A9/A9II shots with the 600GM in the 600GM image thread. Those examples may give you a better idea of the differences. Ideally viewing the images on my Flickr page would be even better as IQ on Flickr is a lot better than the way images are displayed on FM via the FM Upload feature (especially if viewing on a 4K or 5K display). Also if viewed on Flickr you can click on View All Sizes (found under the download link in lower right of each image) and view up to 6K resolution if available. If 6K is not available when you check View All Sizes then the largest size available is equal to the final crop of the RAW file to give you an idea of the MPs after cropping and that should also help do a better comparison between different camera/lens combos....Show more →
Good points, Geoff. Please PM me your Flickr link. Many thanks.
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