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Nikon Z 35mm f/1.8 S Review | A Near-Flagship Lens in an f/1.8 Package

https://www.slrlounge.com/nikon-z-35mm-f-1-8-s-review-a-flagship-lens-in-an-f-1-8-package/


"Nikon Z 35mm f/1.8 S | Final Verdict

The engineers outdid themselves on this one. It’s not perfect, but it’s still perfect for most photographers from serious hobbyists to working professionals. Portraits, weddings, travel, landscapes, …almost any type of photographer will find a good 35mm prime to be very useful. Personally, I’m a huge fan of 35mm instead of 50mm, for many types of photography.

To be honest, as not just a landscape and portrait photographer but also as a serious nightscape and timelapse photographer, …I’m waiting to see how the imminent Nikon Z 24mm f/1.8 S and Nikon Z 20mm f/1.8 S perform, because that’s usually a preferable focal range for astro-landscape work.

All in all, though, for $850 you won’t be disappointed. Forget everything you thought you knew about f/1.8 lenses, and give this impressive optic a try!"

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Aug 29, 2019 at 08:05 PM
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Thanks! Great review. At least he knew what to test, not like DPR.

WOW!:
"....However if you’re shooting important images on a 45-megapixel Z7, then you’ll find that the Z 35 1.8 S not only “destroys” the older Nikon f/1.8, but actually beats the AFS-G 35mm f/1.4 in most respects, and that’s a lens that costs about twice as much!"



Aug 29, 2019 at 11:54 PM
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p.1 #3 · Z 35mm f/1.8 S Review


Nikon’s future 20/35/85 f1.8 line along with 24-70f4 are really pain to me that I have to always keep Z system around no matter what fancy gear come around in the future.

They are so unique as a total package balance performance, size and cost that have no competition now and foreseeable future.



Aug 30, 2019 at 12:21 AM
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umsl12 wrote:
Thanks! Great review. At least he knew what to test, not like DPR.

WOW!:
"....However if you’re shooting important images on a 45-megapixel Z7, then you’ll find that the Z 35 1.8 S not only “destroys” the older Nikon f/1.8, but actually beats the AFS-G 35mm f/1.4 in most respects, and that’s a lens that costs about twice as much!"


Well the 35mm 1.4 seems to be designed for smooth oof rendering wide open at the cost of some sharpness.

Still, this is a super impressive lens, and im loving the s line design philosphy.



Aug 30, 2019 at 05:37 AM
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p.1 #5 · Z 35mm f/1.8 S Review


In addition to lack of sharpness at f1.4, I think most of fast Nikon AFS-G prime lenses, 24/35/85, don't have the resolving power for the 45-MP sensor. Through the later 28E and 105E are much better on high MP body. The new Nikon Z 35 and 50 primes have really impressive performances. Hope to see Nikon keeps that direction for future compact primes.


Aug 30, 2019 at 01:39 PM
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p.1 #6 · Z 35mm f/1.8 S Review


thx for sharing here


Aug 30, 2019 at 01:49 PM
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p.1 #7 · Z 35mm f/1.8 S Review


I've never quite understood why the 50 gets a steller reputation and the 35 is thought to be okayish. I'll agree its not as good as the 50, but it's still pretty great, better than most other options, and not so far behind there should be such a divergence in opinion. I use it for my kids and family and generally love it.

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Aug 30, 2019 at 04:01 PM
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I actually sold my 50mm. Not it is not good,but it overlap many of my favorite lenses such 50lux, 50APO, and 58G. It’s a gear performer but not as small as M lens or render as smooth as 58G.

However, I finally bought 35S here. It is long in my plan but never get around to do it. I always like what I see from 35S. It has very respect CA correction, smooth bokeh and cross frame consistence, no funky stuff at corner, a treat that showing on all nikon S line glass. Especially, consider good 35mm is much more difficult to come by compare to 50mm.

I am just waiting for 85mm, which again should be one of best if I trust my eyes. My finger is crossed. And Next year for the 20mm. I never liked 24mm focal length, so I will pass 24mm.

Mathieu18 wrote:
I've never quite understood why the 50 gets a steller reputation and the 35 is thought to be okayish. I'll agree its not as good as the 50, but it's still pretty great, better than most other options, and not so far behind there should be such a divergence. I use it for my kids and family and generally love it.




Aug 30, 2019 at 04:52 PM
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If you like 20, the Voigtlander 21/1.4 is worth checking out in the mean time. It’s pretty stellar and you get all the MF aides. I myself like 24mm, but I like the 24-70/4 there. Compliments the 21/1.4 pretty well. Otherwise agree on the 35. I have a 50 again, but there is a good chance I sell again to sell the 85 or a 70-200 as it just fits the kit better.

zhangyue wrote:
I actually sold my 50mm. Not it is not good,but it overlap many of my favorite lenses such 50lux, 50APO, and 58G. It’s a gear performer but not as small as M lens or render as smooth as 58G.

However, I finally bought 35S here. It is long in my plan but never get around to do it. I always like what I see from 35S. It has very respect CA correction, smooth bokeh and cross frame consistence, no funky stuff at corner, a treat that showing on all nikon S line glass. Especially, consider good 35mm is much more
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Aug 30, 2019 at 06:01 PM
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Mathieu18 wrote:
If you like 20, the Voigtlander 21/1.4 is worth checking out in the mean time. It’s pretty stellar and you get all the MF aides. I myself like 24mm, but I like the 24-70/4 there. Compliments the 21/1.4 pretty well. Otherwise agree on the 35. I have a 50 again, but there is a good chance I sell again to sell the 85 or a 70-200 as it just fits the kit better.



Yes,I heard lots of good thing about VC21 and your images look wonderful. I do have Leica 21SEM but it perform OK to good on Z7 and S1 if I used it for Landscape. And I have 14-30mm, I don't love it as much as 24-70 (maybe just because I haven't used it much) but it offer respectable performance beat both VC15mm and 21SEM (both on Z) and most SWA Nikon lens I used such as 14-24mm 16-35mm in term of sharpness. For SWA, speed never is priority for me.

So in that sense I plan to buy 20mm f1.8 is not due to lack of wide angle glass but to complete a f1.8 set which share the same color, rendering, coating and performance,,, It is just too good to pass. I can easily imagine 20/35/85 and two Z body as a perfect prime setup

and then add a 135mm f1.8S later



Aug 30, 2019 at 06:42 PM
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p.1 #11 · Z 35mm f/1.8 S Review


100% agree with you there, I prefer my lenses in sets for a variety of reasons. I hope CV releases the 75/1.5 in E mount as well and that will be me manual kit. Probably 35/85 and 24-70 for AF, though I’m less certain there.

zhangyue wrote:
Yes,I heard lots of good thing about VC21 and your images look wonderful. I do have Leica 21SEM but it perform OK to good on Z7 and S1 if I used it for Landscape. And I have 14-30mm, I don't love it as much as 24-70 (maybe just because I haven't used it much) but it offer respectable performance beat both VC15mm and 21SEM (both on Z) and most SWA Nikon lens I used such as 14-24mm 16-35mm in term of sharpness. For SWA, speed never is priority for me.

So in that sense I plan to buy 20mm f1.8
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Aug 30, 2019 at 07:22 PM
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Edit: ups, wrong Thread.


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Are the Voigtlander e-mount lenses really good on the Z7?
I switched from the Sony A7RII to the Nikon Z7 and intended to use my Loxia lenses 25mm and 35mm with a dumb adapter on the Z7.
I was surprised to see an identical heavy blueish color cast on both lenses towards the frame edges and corners. In bright daylight not that obvious immediately, but once knowing what to look for, it is a distinct desaturating cast that makes frame edges and corners look ugly and color drained. I worked around it by using the LCC lens cast correction tool in CO1 for the Loxia 25mm, but sold the 35 and 50mm and bought the Z50mm f1.8S, which is a stellar lens and does of course not display any of the deficiencies that the Loxias do.
I am really surprised that I have read no references to the mismatch between e-mount lenses and the Z7 sensor stack and mirrorlens arrangement. Images taken in covert light at f2 look downright awful towards the frame edges and corners. I was planning to get the Voigtlander 50 apo but obviously let that idea go after my experiences with the Loxias, despite the fact that proper use of the CO1 LCC tool solves a lot of the nasty color draining cast. The Z50mmS is a superb lens anyway, but replacing the great Loxia 25mm is less easy. I now also use it in Z7 DX crop mode as a 37mm lens.

AdaptedLenses wrote:
If you like 20, the Voigtlander 21/1.4 is worth checking out in the mean time. It’s pretty stellar and you get all the MF aides. I myself like 24mm, but I like the 24-70/4 there. Compliments the 21/1.4 pretty well. Otherwise agree on the 35. I have a 50 again, but there is a good chance I sell again to sell the 85 or a 70-200 as it just fits the kit better.





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ChrisMak wrote:
Are the Voigtlander e-mount lenses really good on the Z7?
I switched from the Sony A7RII to the Nikon Z7 and intended to use my Loxia lenses 25mm and 35mm with a dumb adapter on the Z7.
I was surprised to see an identical heavy blueish color cast on both lenses towards the frame edges and corners. In bright daylight not that obvious immediately, but once knowing what to look for, it is a distinct desaturating cast that makes frame edges and corners look ugly and color drained. I worked around it by using the LCC lens cast correction tool in CO1
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I use the Voigtländer 21mm f/1.4 M-mount version on the Nikon Z7. Some coma wide open, which is visible in specular highlights or when the bright side of an edge is overexposed, e.g. a light source. I don't know whether this also shows on Leica M cameras - 21mm at f/1.4 will probably always involve some compromises.




May 30, 2020 at 06:01 PM
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ChrisMak wrote:
Are the Voigtlander e-mount lenses really good on the Z7?
I switched from the Sony A7RII to the Nikon Z7 and intended to use my Loxia lenses 25mm and 35mm with a dumb adapter on the Z7.
I was surprised to see an identical heavy blueish color cast on both lenses towards the frame edges and corners. In bright daylight not that obvious immediately, but once knowing what to look for, it is a distinct desaturating cast that makes frame edges and corners look ugly and color drained. I worked around it by using the LCC lens cast correction tool in CO1
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You probably had a very short adapter which would have benefitted from shimming. The Loxia 25 has a floating element and performance can be degraded if the adapter is too short. I have seen zero of the issues you describe with the Loxia 25 on the Z7, but I purposely picked an adapter that was as close to being thick enough that I could find. Not sure about the 35. It is the only Loxia I haven't owned. I have zero problems with the Loxia 21, 25, 50, or 85 with my Z7--although I replaced the Loxia 50 with the Voigtlander 50 f/1.2. I still have the 21, 25, and 85 and I have no problems with any of them.

Here is Jim Kasson's test of the Loxia 21 on the Z7. Note how well that does:

https://blog.kasson.com/nikon-z6-7/loxia-21-2-8-on-z7-and-sony-a7riii/

I don't think there is any inherent incompatibility of these lenses with the Z7. Note also Jim describes how the lens corrections are baked into the Sony RAW files. Part of what you are seeing may well be that the Nikon files don't have the baked in corrections and the Sony files do.

So, I would put the issue down to first potential issues with the adapter being too short (almost all are), and second issues with the baked in lens corrections. I don't think it is an incompatibility of the lenses with the camera.



May 30, 2020 at 06:36 PM
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Steve Spencer wrote:
You probably had a very short adapter which would have benefitted from shimming. The Loxia 25 has a floating element and performance can be degraded if the adapter is too short. I have seen zero of the issues you describe with the Loxia 25 on the Z7, but I purposely picked an adapter that was as close to being thick enough that I could find. Not sure about the 35. It is the only Loxia I haven't owned. I have zero problems with the Loxia 21, 25, 50, or 85 with my Z7--although I replaced the Loxia 50 with
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I don't think it is the adapter, as I got the Schoten dumb adapter, which is the Techart adapter, but without the electronics. Also, I can júst focus past infinity, exactly the same as with the Sony A7RII.
I cannot post here, but I took a few exposure in daylight shooting through a sheet of neutral white thin photo paper. In Capture one, you can clearly see after white balancing, the shitft from neutral white in the centre to blueish in the corners and the frame edges. After generating a LCC correction profile, and applying it to real world images, the color desaturating effect of the blueish color cast is gone, and the image looks very close to normal.
The intesity of the effect is most apparent when shooting a white wall in a dimly lit, but not darkish room, at f2, you can see the wall going from greyish blue to warm white to greyish blue across the frame.

So if it is not the adapter, and all Loxia lenses exhibit this, what is most likely the cause? I am familiar with color casting of lenses on mirrorless since I went from dslr to the Sony A7r series. Especially skies can have heavy blue color casts, where they were much more towards natural grey, and Capture one makes this more obvious because they tend to exaggerate the blue channel quite a bit. But this happened only in a few images in very specific situations/lighting and when e.g. tilting the camera downwards to shoot a landscape from a mountain downwards. Phase one has a few learning videos on use of the LCC tool to correct for color casts in skies.
I mean to say that it has become much more present with mirrorless than it was with dslr, and I wonder what kind of sensor stack or mirrorless alignment tricks are used that have side effects.

Perhaps Zeiss supplied Sony with correction data for such a color cast, that is possible, or perhaps Sony generated this data, and since the correction is not there on the Nikon Z7, it suddenly becomes obvious. Luckily, the LCC tool in CO1 works very well, I just have to reshoot sometime with a perfectly neutral and even white semi transparent plate or sheet or something.
In the process though, I decided against the Voigtlander 50mm f2apo, and went the safe route with the Nikkor Z50mm f1.8S. I have to say that it is a fantastic lens. I will keep the Loxia 25mm though, as I am not sure of the Z24mm f1.8S regarding color and bokeh. The Loxia is also great in DX mode as a 37mm f2.8



May 31, 2020 at 04:26 AM
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ChrisMak wrote:
I don't think it is the adapter, as I got the Schoten dumb adapter, which is the Techart adapter, but without the electronics. Also, I can júst focus past infinity, exactly the same as with the Sony A7RII.
I cannot post here, but I took a few exposure in daylight shooting through a sheet of neutral white thin photo paper. In Capture one, you can clearly see after white balancing, the shitft from neutral white in the centre to blueish in the corners and the frame edges. After generating a LCC correction profile, and applying it to real world images, the
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To me this seems to be a post processing (i.e., lens correction) issue and not a camera issue per se. Note that not all Loxia lenses show this issue. Jim Kasson did not see it in his Loxia 21 test that I posted. I also have never seen it with my Loxia 50 or 85. I think there may even be a difference between Capture One and Adobe Lightroom in how they handle this issue, but it seems that both can handle it. I have not found it to be much of a problem in real life shooting. I see this issue with wide angle lenses from time to time and it isn't just a mirrorless issue. I remember it clearly from my Canon 5D MK II and the Zeiss ZE 21 f/2.8. Just one of those post processing things you need to look out for and correct.

PS - if your lens focuses past infinity the adapter is likely too short. Almost all of them are. If it is close it won't matter too much, but for optimal performance of a floating element lens like the Loxia 25 you want the adapter to the exact thickness needed to keep the proper flange distance. That your Schoten adapter is like the TechArt adapter is no guarantee it isn't too thin. I am pretty sure my TechArt adapter is too thin. Adapter makers tend to error on the thin side because a too thick adapter is much more noticeable (you can't achieve infinity focus) than a too thin adapter (which only causes serious problems with lenses with floating elements and then for some lenses much more than others).



May 31, 2020 at 09:15 AM
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p.1 #18 · Z 35mm f/1.8 S Review


Waiting for the 35 1.4 🙂.


May 31, 2020 at 02:10 PM
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ACEG wrote:
Waiting for the 35 1.4 🙂.


I don't think we are ever going to get a Loxia 35 f/1.4, but Voigtlander has just made a 35 f/1.2 SE for Sony that performs well and should be able to be adapted to the Z cameras.



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I saw the same thing with the Loxia 25 on the Z7. Cyan tinting towards the edges. I tried with three or four different adapters, and it was always there. It's possible all the adapters were too short, I didn't experiment with shimming them. Between that, the field curvature, slight focus shift, and IBIS failing on the TZE I concluded it wasn't worth it for me. Results weren't actually better across the frame than my 14-30 stopped down.

My CV 65/2 doesn't have a strong tint. There may be a small amount, I'd need controlled testing to be sure--but it's not obvious on inspection like the Lox 25 was.



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