fredmiranda.com
Login

Moderated by: Fred Miranda
  New fredmiranda.com Mobile Site
  New Feature: SMS Notification alert
  New Feature: Buy & Sell Watchlist
  

FM Forums | Sony Forum | Join Upload & Sell

1       2       3              65              67              71       72       end
  

Archive 2019 · Sigma 14-24mm f/2.8 DG DN first impressions

  
 
Jman13
Offline
• • • • • •
Upload & Sell: On
p.66 #1 · Sigma 14-24mm f/2.8 DG DN first impressions


These shots are from two weeks ago with the 14-24:

http://www.jordansteele.com/2020/fallsville7.jpg

http://www.jordansteele.com/2020/fallsville4.jpg

http://www.jordansteele.com/2020/rainbow_sunrise.jpg



May 18, 2020 at 08:18 AM
tsdevine
Online
• • • • •
Upload & Sell: On
p.66 #2 · Sigma 14-24mm f/2.8 DG DN first impressions


I'm a little lazy I guess. I have 3 ways to stow this setup for my waterfall shooting.

Hiking in/hiking out - Sigma stowed without filter
https://www.devine.photography/img/s/v-10/p3897569243-6.jpg


Active shooting - Sigma w/Nisi mounted and lens mounted to camera
https://www.devine.photography/img/s/v-10/p3897569244-6.jpg


Shooting other lenses - Sigma w/Nisi mounted but other lens on camera
https://www.devine.photography/img/s/v-10/p3897569245-6.jpg


My biggest worry was dealing with the large setup, but given we both found ways to make it more than just reasonable means that others who are on the fence should be able to find something that works for them as well.

-Tim

Jman13 wrote:
Yeah, I don't keep it mounted, but it attaches so quickly, it basically is as fast as any other filter. I just pull it out of my bag, pop off the rear cap I bought for it on Amazon, secure it to the lens, and pop off the Nisi filter cap. Done. No slower than pulling out my regular filters, unscrewing the stack cap, unscrewing the filter from the other filters in the stack, and screwing it on to the lens, then screwing the stack cap back on my other filters. In fact, it may be a little faster.





May 18, 2020 at 10:12 AM
naturephoto1
Offline
• • • • • •
Upload & Sell: Off
p.66 #3 · Sigma 14-24mm f/2.8 DG DN first impressions


tsdevine wrote:

I'm a little lazy I guess. I have 3 ways to stow this setup for my waterfall shooting.

Hiking in/hiking out - Sigma stowed without filter
https://www.devine.photography/img/s/v-10/p3897569243-6.jpg


Active shooting - Sigma w/Nisi mounted and lens mounted to camera
https://www.devine.photography/img/s/v-10/p3897569244-6.jpg


Shooting other lenses - Sigma w/Nisi mounted but other lens on camera
https://www.devine.photography/img/s/v-10/p3897569245-6.jpg


My biggest worry was dealing with the large setup, but given we both found ways to make it more than just reasonable means that others who are on the fence should be able to find something that works for them as well.

-Tim





Hi Tim,

Dang that is a huge filter.

Rich




May 18, 2020 at 11:22 AM
Jman13
Offline
• • • • • •
Upload & Sell: On
p.66 #4 · Sigma 14-24mm f/2.8 DG DN first impressions


naturephoto1 wrote:
Dang that is a huge filter.

Rich



Don't know what you mean:
https://admiringlight.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2020/03/nisi_s5-3.jpg

It is large, but provided you have a pocket in your bag to fit it, it really is quite easy to use in the field. It fits in one of my front pockets on my shoulder bag, and I put it in the outer pocket of my backpack when using that too...no issues.




May 18, 2020 at 11:28 AM
NatDeroxL7
Offline
• •
Upload & Sell: Off
p.66 #5 · Sigma 14-24mm f/2.8 DG DN first impressions


I'll probably get an aurora or two but most likely going to get a NiSi system as the primary.


Changgyeonggung Night Tour by Nate Derrick, on Flickr


Changgyeonggung Night Tour by Nate Derrick, on Flickr

Changgyeonggung Grounds by Nate Derrick, on Flickr

Changgyeonggung Grounds by Nate Derrick, on Flickr



May 18, 2020 at 05:08 PM
MAubrey
Offline
• • •
Upload & Sell: On
p.66 #6 · Sigma 14-24mm f/2.8 DG DN first impressions


Fred Miranda wrote:
I don't think they will produce linear polarizers. The LPR filter stands for Light Pollution Reduction.


I guess it'll be 4, 8, 12 then!

I can work with that.



May 18, 2020 at 05:52 PM
tsdevine
Online
• • • • •
Upload & Sell: On
p.66 #7 · Sigma 14-24mm f/2.8 DG DN first impressions



It’s big, but it’s nicely made. It will be nice to have the rear ND solution to avoid putting the large filters in front of the polarizer.

-Tim

naturephoto1 wrote:
Hi Tim,

Dang that is a huge filter.

Rich





May 18, 2020 at 06:33 PM
derKoekje
Offline
• • •
Upload & Sell: Off
p.66 #8 · Sigma 14-24mm f/2.8 DG DN first impressions


I know it's not its primary purpose but can anyone show me some nice bokeh samples they took?


May 18, 2020 at 06:51 PM
Fred Miranda
Offline
Admin
Upload & Sell: On
p.66 #9 · Sigma 14-24mm f/2.8 DG DN first impressions


MAubrey wrote:
I guess it'll be 4, 8, 12 then!

I can work with that.


I've asked the developer if there is any desire to produce a linear polarizer as well. We won't be able to rotate the filter but we can always rotate the camera. It won't be perfect but could be useful.



May 18, 2020 at 07:59 PM
Fred Miranda
Offline
Admin
Upload & Sell: On
p.66 #10 · Sigma 14-24mm f/2.8 DG DN first impressions


derKoekje wrote:
I know it's not its primary purpose but can anyone show me some nice bokeh samples they took?


I've posted some samples here: (most wide open)

https://www.fredmiranda.com/forum/topic/1609212/30#15013072



May 18, 2020 at 08:03 PM
Pixel Perfect
Offline
• • • • • • •
Upload & Sell: Off
p.66 #11 · Sigma 14-24mm f/2.8 DG DN first impressions


Hey guys, what the consensus about the Sigma for astro work. Apologies if it's been asked already, haven't trawled through the entire thread yet.


May 19, 2020 at 05:58 AM
tsdevine
Online
• • • • •
Upload & Sell: On
p.66 #12 · Sigma 14-24mm f/2.8 DG DN first impressions



Looks like Nisi is running another sale, this one until May 26 - 15% off the normal price of the entire NiSi range. Only on the Offical NiSi USA Store at nisiopticsusa.com.

-Tim



May 19, 2020 at 08:04 AM
Jman13
Offline
• • • • • •
Upload & Sell: On
p.66 #13 · Sigma 14-24mm f/2.8 DG DN first impressions


Pixel Perfect wrote:
Hey guys, what the consensus about the Sigma for astro work. Apologies if it's been asked already, haven't trawled through the entire thread yet.


Very low coma and excellent for astro.



May 19, 2020 at 08:07 AM
NatDeroxL7
Offline
• •
Upload & Sell: Off
p.66 #14 · Sigma 14-24mm f/2.8 DG DN first impressions


Just did both a kickstarter pledge for 3x filters, and ordered a NiSi S5 kit with CPL, 3 stop medium, 3 stop reverse grad and 5-stop ND. Didn't want to pass up the 15% sale, plus the 5-stop ND was on clearance already so I got that crazy cheap.

I couldn't get a warm fuzzy that the 82mm adapter listed on the NiSi website for the 14-24 Sigma applied to the DG DN version, it just says the 14-24 DG HSM....so I didn't order one yet. I'm hoping there is an adapter soon so I can use the S5 with my other lenses as well.


I'll probably do a 4, 8 and light pollution for the auroras.



May 20, 2020 at 02:47 AM
Pixel Perfect
Offline
• • • • • • •
Upload & Sell: Off
p.66 #15 · Sigma 14-24mm f/2.8 DG DN first impressions


Jman13 wrote:
Very low coma and excellent for astro.


Cheers for the heads up.



May 20, 2020 at 06:43 AM
j4nu
Online
• • • • •
Upload & Sell: Off
p.66 #16 · Sigma 14-24mm f/2.8 DG DN first impressions


So I've finally decided to try this lens after contemplating getting it since its release, as it seems to be the "ultimate" ultra wide angle, at least for now . I just got it so didn't have too much time to use it, but since there was some discussion here about copy variance I tried Fred's decentering test (af-s using magnification in center first, then photos with the main object in the corners). It seems to me that my copy lags a bit, at least compared to the results posted in this thread, e.g. this good vs weak corner comparison at 14mm and 16mm (200% zoom from 24 mp - A7iii):



or all four corners at 14mm at 100%:



I know it's pretty crazy to compare corner sharpness in an ultra wide angle at 100% or even more, but since this lens is touted as the best we can get now and I can see the difference between the "good" and "bad" corner in my copy, I'm wondering now if I should try my luck and exchange it for a new copy.
I want to do more structured tests (stopped down, etc.) during the weekend, but for now a couple more photos can be seen here:

https://janu.smugmug.com/Sigma14-24/n-L2WXMN

Do you think I can get better than this if I try my luck again ?
Thanks!



May 21, 2020 at 06:10 PM
saxguy
Offline
• • •
Upload & Sell: On
p.66 #17 · Sigma 14-24mm f/2.8 DG DN first impressions


@14mm. I don't know why the focal length disappeared from the EXIF data after editing in Silver Efx







May 22, 2020 at 12:03 AM
tsdevine
Online
• • • • •
Upload & Sell: On
p.66 #18 · Sigma 14-24mm f/2.8 DG DN first impressions



Thanks Jordan! Ping me if you want some company on that trip..... Hopefully we're out of the woods sooner rather than later.

-Tim

Jman13 wrote:
Beautiful shot, Tim! I've got to make it out to Rickett's Glen sometime....probably not until we're out of the woods on the coronavirus thing, but still.





May 22, 2020 at 04:10 PM
Sarpedon
Offline
• •
Upload & Sell: Off
p.66 #19 · Sigma 14-24mm f/2.8 DG DN first impressions


Third time is finally a charm with this lens: my new copy is well-centered at 14mm and almost as good at 24mm. I would have given up after three lemons in a row. So relieved.

j4nu wrote:
Do you think I can get better than this if I try my luck again ?
Thanks!


24mm is the weakest focal length of this lens and the results there look acceptable to me, but you can definitely do better at 14mm on 24 megapixels. Though there's always the smaller chance you will get worse! (The copy you have here is better than the first two I tried, though I seem to be an outlier.) I think the key is whether you think this is good enough for you. Maybe the difference goes away at smaller apertures and that's where you normally shoot.

If I were you I'd also try again using manual focus, then another round with manual focus in one of the weak corners. It's a tricky lens to test because the field of view is so wide: you have to make sure you tilt the camera in the same way to get to each corner or your plane of focus will be off.



May 22, 2020 at 06:02 PM
j4nu
Online
• • • • •
Upload & Sell: Off
p.66 #20 · Sigma 14-24mm f/2.8 DG DN first impressions


Sarpedon wrote:
Third time is finally a charm with this lens: my new copy is well-centered at 14mm and almost as good at 24mm. I would have given up after three lemons in a row. So relieved.

24mm is the weakest focal length of this lens and the results there look acceptable to me, but you can definitely do better at 14mm on 24 megapixels. Though there's always the smaller chance you will get worse! (The copy you have here is better than the first two I tried, though I seem to be an outlier.) I think the key is whether you
...Show more

Thanks for your opinion! Yes, I agree that in the end it's a personal decision . The funny thing is that if all corners were that "bad" it would probably be easier for me to accept as now I see this good corner and I keep thinking how cool it would be to have all corners like that .
Anyways, I'll do some better testing (MF on the corner is a good idea indeed) throughout the weekend and see what I come up with...



May 23, 2020 at 06:33 AM
1       2       3              65              67              71       72       end




FM Forums | Sony Forum | Join Upload & Sell

1       2       3              65              67              71       72       end
    
 

Welcome back
Log in to your account