"Here the situation is a bit different: on the Leica M10 I see no midzone dip but the corners clearly benefit from stopping down. Due to the performance in the corners the lens actually looks best when stopped down to f/8.0 here.
The Voigtländer VM 21mm 1.4 Nokton on the other hand looks at least as good at f/2.8 as this Thypoch lens does at f/8.0."
"As the Thypoch lenses are often availabe for different mounts my guess is they might be designed for an “average” filter thickness, allowing them to perform well enough on various camera systems. Good news for those among us that use more than one camera system."
I think Voigtlander is to be praised for adjusting their lens designs so they're optimized for M mount and also optimized for the other mirrorless camera mounts they offer (the ones with thicker filter stacks).
Thypoch Simera so far doesn't seem interested in doing that......Show more →
I had not realized the optical designs were that similar, though I never reviewed the Simera 21/1.4 myself. I really loved the Voigtlander's output, and if it weren't for the size, I would have kept it. When the Zeiss Loxia 21/2.8 Distagon came out, we were all impressed by its performance despite noticeable field curvature. The Voigtlander 21mm f/1.4 Nokton was the first lens to challenge the Zeiss at f/2.8 and smaller apertures while giving an extra two stops of light.
The Voigtlander 21mm f/1.4 Nokton is one lens I genuinely regret selling. It delivered fantastic images and was incredibly useful for travel. I traded it for the 21mm f/3.5 Color Skopar (size/weight trade-off) and I am happy with that lens, but the f/1.4 version is a very different beast.
I love this lens. While in Hawaii a few days ago, we got to see a Christmas parade in Kona. It was very dark by the time the parade came by where we were sitting and of course everything was moving, but the 21/1.4 got some usable shots. This is one of the better ones.
Fred Miranda wrote:
The Voigtlander 21mm f/1.4 Nokton is one lens I genuinely regret selling. It delivered fantastic images and was incredibly useful for travel. I traded it for the 21mm f/3.5 Color Skopar (size/weight trade-off) and I am happy with that lens, but the f/1.4 version is a very different beast.
Fred
As it turns out I bought your old lens from the guy you sold it to. Still with your 6 bit coding on it .
I really wanted the 21/3.5 Color Skopar; I like the picture it gives. But then I bought the 21/1.4 Nokton. And I don't want the 21/3.5 anymore...
But I'm not sure
DmitriyTver wrote:
I really wanted the 21/3.5 Color Skopar; I like the picture it gives. But then I bought the 21/1.4 Nokton. And I don't want the 21/3.5 anymore...
But I'm not sure
The 21/1.4 is the one to have if weight is not an issue. I owned the 21/3.5 for a few years and it’s a great lens but does not have the flexibility or sparkle of the 21/1.4.
I have both, I use both, huge difference in weight and size. If I am serious about 21 outing Nokton it is, if it is low light Nokton it is, but if I am doing a sort of one lens carry, my one lens plus strategy of a 50 mm apo summicron with M11 I might well put the 21 and 28 color skopers in my pocket as a just in case, small enough I forget they are there, and if the light is generous I have wide angle.
