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p.3 #1 · International travel and fitting cameras in carry on


Thanks for all the replies - I've had a look at the suggestions and I think I've narrowed it down to a few now

I'm heading to Iceland this time round, so wanting to take 2 bodies for backup, but also so I can run time-lapses on one and still take typical stills on the other (or two time-lapses if the need arises). The 4 lenses each have a particular use, with the tamron being the most disposable currently, but it is a nice walk around option.

The weight is a concern, just as I have had family pulled up on this before domestically, and I really don't want to be in a position to put things in checked in if I can avoid it. Doubly so if it's because I didn't think through the bag size. I've had my bag size checked on domestic flights here before.

I'm leaning to the backpack option mainly as I expect to do a few walks/short hikes with this setup, so rollers are less ideal. And seem to be heavier as a rule for the size. Landscapes are the main focus - I'm not planning on being in massively busy areas if I can avoid it.

The thinktank options seem good, and I've come across this which seems similar too:
https://www.photo.co.nz/online-store/categories/camera-bags/backpacks-and-slings-2/tenba-solstice-20l-backpack-black/
The dimensions aren't exactly whats needed but closer than a lot of the others (should be only 20cm deep) - but I won't be taking a laptop which should help

For my usual hiking, I have an Osprey 70L pack with insert, which works really well. I haven't actually bought the 16-35mm and a73 yet, so I'll have to wait until after this trip to see whether I need to adjust that setup for regular hiking use with 2x bodies and lenses too. It should be better than the old canon gear for size and weight though overall



Jun 08, 2019 at 08:22 AM
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p.3 #2 · International travel and fitting cameras in carry on


Just to add to the discussions on light weight options. We have been traveling for the past three weeks and have been on five flights. Just bordered the last one and just had one of my carry ons checked. Everything was weighed on the way out and every airline was ok until today. You never know.


Jun 08, 2019 at 09:01 AM
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jmmaher wrote:
Just to add to the discussions on light weight options. We have been traveling for the past three weeks and have been on five flights. Just bordered the last one and just had one of my carry ons checked. Everything was weighed on the way out and every airline was ok until today. You never know.


That's the bottom line...you never know. It's occurring more lately and you are rolling the dice by being over the stated limits for carryon.



Jun 08, 2019 at 09:19 AM
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Two suggestions for you, both from Mindshift (sister company to ThinkTank). I have, love and use the Photocross 13 sling bag. But have been looking at a larger bag for my next multi-month trip to Thailand and am close to buying the Trailscape 18L.

In the Photocross 13 I currently keep a A73 with Batis 40mm mounted in the center compartment, with a 24GM f1.4 and Voigtlander 15mm f4.5 under a divider flap back to back at the bottom. In the deepest slot I put the Batis 135mm f2.8 vertically under a flap with the FE 85mm f1.8 horizontally above, and in the upper slot I put the a V850S flash with Magmod gel/grid with a small case logic case with battery, cards, tools etc. The MagMod sphere, Rav Power power bank (you wont be able to put powerbanks in your checked luggage) small Cullman table top tripod, XPro flash transmitter and 67mm filters fit in the accessory pocket. I am at 6-1/2 Kg right now with this kit with room for my iPad. Works just fine, easy to slide around to the front for accessing gear and not too big and it is easier to access gear this way, rather than taking it off and setting it down. I can also put my light stand and/or travel tripod to the side or front with the included connector/straps.

Looking at your gear you could put the Canon zoom in the upper (shortest) pocket, 2 bodies without lens above a flap and the Tamaron and MC-11 adapter under in the center pocket, and the 16-35GM vertically with 24GM above a flap horizontally in the deepest lower pocket. The Nisi filter kit might fit in the accessory pocket, I got my 100mm Haida filter kit in there (6” x 5” x 1-1/2”) but it can also fit in the water bottle pocket. This way you have the full height 13” x 6” x 2” deep front accessory pocket for misc things. This will be fully loaded and you may not like the feel of a sling bag once it gets this heavy.

When I went to Thailand for 3 months during the end of 2017/2018 I took my M4/3gear, didn’t have Sony then, and put the Olympus 40-150 f2.8 and 24-80 f2.8 Pro zooms, Nocticron 42.5mm f1.2, Olympus 17mm f1.8 and 75mm f1.8 primes and 2 Olympus EM1 bodies (no mounted lens) plus my Mavic pro in the Photocross 13 along with filters, batteries and 2 extra Mavic pro batteries, Mavic controller, iPad Mini 4 and it all fit. It was fully loaded but worked OK, though I did eventually add a $10 padded wrap around strap over the original strap to cushion it. This time I want to add a 2nd Sony body and still bring the drone, so that is why I am looking at the Trailscape 18L, plus it gives you a full height front pocket for a rain jacket, food/snacks etc when out and about. The weight difference between packs is only 4 ounces more for the 18L, 2.8 lbs. vs 2.4 lbs and it no doubt will be more comfortable when overloaded as the Photocross 13 was for this trip.

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Jun 08, 2019 at 10:35 AM
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I haven't had problems with two carryons recently, an Airport Advantage Plus and a backpack on international business class. It is on foreign domestic flights and regional jets where problems can arise. Several years ago in Australia I was on a domestic flight where the carryon limit was 4kg. My bag at that time weighed almost 4kg when empty. I ended up wearing a camera with lens attached for the entire flight. BTW, I am talking about the camera bags being distributed between two passengers, my spouse and myself, together with a computer bag and another personal carryon.


Jun 08, 2019 at 10:41 AM
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I'm just back from 3 weeks traveling in Europe. I took way too much, but this is how I carried it all in a carry-on:
A Tenba 8 bag and a Tenba 11 bag, each with a body and 3 lenses (one lens mounted on each camera), plus two larger lenses in separate neoprene pouches, and a neoprene sack that I also use as a camera bag, all placed within a normal 21 inch Samsonite carry on bag. Even with all that in the Samsonite carry-on, I still had room left for 6 travel books, socks & underwear, a light jacket, straps and charger, hard drive, and a bunch of other small or stuffable stuff. And the camera gear was very well protected.

One of the benefits of this way of doing things was that when I arrived I then had three different sized camera bags to choose from each day as I went out (the Tenba 8, the Tenba 11, and the neoprene sack). And it all went into a normal carry-on and into the the overhead bins. Weighed a bit though.



Jun 08, 2019 at 01:02 PM
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SpecFoto wrote:
Two suggestions for you, both from Mindshift (sister company to ThinkTank). I have, love and use the Photocross 13 sling bag. But have been looking at a larger bag for my next multi-month trip to Thailand and am close to buying the Trailscape 18L.

In the Photocross 13 I currently keep a A73 with Batis 40mm mounted in the center compartment, with a 24GM f1.4 and Voigtlander 15mm f4.5 under a divider flap back to back at the bottom. In the deepest slot I put the Batis 135mm f2.8 vertically under a flap with the FE 85mm f1.8 horizontally above,
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This raises another point that is of concern to me personally and maybe others (younger, stronger or more pain-tolerant guys may get away with it) I used to use messenger bags, Tamrac and a Tenba DNA 13 (both were excellent bags that could take a lot of gear) but the problem was that wearing them for any amount of time became tiresome and sometimes painful, with all the weight on one shoulder or your neck.

The OP seems to have underestimated the weight of his gear a little too, including the bag he would be looking at more like 6 to 7kgs depending on the weight of things like water, snacks, rainwear, passport, keys, and other bits and pieces we all carry, that he would be carrying on top of the camera gear (which weighs well over 5kgs alone according to my calculations inc. batteries, hoods etc.). That is a lot of weight on one shoulder (esp. when going on short, say under 5kms return, hikes in Iceland, most hiking in Iceland is not longer than that unless going to the interior) whether on a day hike or walking around a city all day.

This is the reason I switched to the Lowepro Flipside, to enable the weight to sit on my hips yet still have almost instant access without putting the bag down. There are other bags of this ilk of course. You can always carry it on a shoulder and across your stomach if you wish (I do this for security in crowds).

For the OP.

I think you should have mentioned you were going to Iceland earlier It is a special case (virtually no theft risk from Icelanders, the risk is all from other tourists) especially where the type of bag needed is concerned

If you are driving around Iceland (I spent one month driving around the whole island) you can carry more gear and won't need the same types of bags (a backpack would be a far better choice since it's hardly a country where you'll need quick access, actual sunsets can easily last 30 mins or more with the sun hovering just on the horizon). If you are hiking the same applies.

BTW there is a unique backpack manufacturer in NZ that I've always been meaning to check out for their 'dual bags', that carry both front and back : https://www.aarnpacks.com/



Jun 09, 2019 at 02:05 AM
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p.3 #8 · International travel and fitting cameras in carry on


Thanks for the reply, I probably should have started with the Iceland part yes.

The weight concern is purely for the carry on luggage part - weight for hikes etc will definitely be higher, but I'm used to 10+kgs for short hikes so I'm not concerned about that part. Its all getting the gear there in the first place.

I'll be driving mostly, so the backpack seems the better choice for versatility. I currently have a smaller lowepro flipside, the biggest issue is that it just doesn't fit everything I want it to, both for the carry on, but also more and more in general use too.



Jun 09, 2019 at 07:31 AM
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Late to this thread and lots of information. Of course, you will need to pick out parts from each post to find the right ingredients for a travel kit that works for you.

I have tried to find a setup that works for me on any trip. The worst scenario for me is using different bags for different trips - then I can never find anything, forget things, etc.

I travel carry-on only with many international trips. Amateur, general travel/architecture/nature/street/landscape photos. Obviously, wildlife photography creates its own issues with larger lenses.

I use an eBags hard-sided spinner bags which carries my tripod, ballhead, and all of my clothes and toiletries. You must be prepared to do some laundry. Lightweight travel shirts and underwear can be washed in the shower and dried overnight. Lightweight wool socks dry pretty quickly too as do travel pants/shorts. You have to have the mindset of a backpacker counting every gram and reducing size on everything, especially toiletries and liquids. I can travel indefinitely this way.

As for the camera bag, I use a Mindshift sling bag but you will need to experiment to find what suits your needs. I was looking for a bag:

large enough in which to stuff everything including laptop, iPad, chargers, earbuds, filters, etc for travel days
small enough to use as an everyday photo bag with a reduced kit
light enough that the bag does not add substantially to the total gear weight
comfortable enough to carry all day
sturdy enough to attach the tripod if I must
weatherproof enough to resist most rains without a rain cover
Zippers that are water and dust resistant
Ergonomics such that I need not remove the bag (e.g. put it on the ground) to use it
Lighter color so it does not turn into an oven in the sun

In the end, the Mindshift sling bag met all of my criteria and I enjoy using it. The strap could be more comfortable but that adds bulk and weight too. Everything is a compromise.

The 7 kg weight limit is where I fail with the spinner. If the airline were to weigh it, then I could easily check that bag without worry. So far, never a problem. On small planes, it is gate checked anyway.

When possible, I fly premium economy or business and have never been hassled. The previous advice to pay the pittance for early boarding and seat assignments on some airlines is good advice too.



Jun 09, 2019 at 10:33 AM
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My strategy is to keep all delicate items in the “personal item” bag. Of course this dramatically limits the number of cameras/lenses. In my mind though one camera and 2-3 lenses that you can keep at all times with you would work so much better than a lost or damaged roller with 2 cameras and 5 lenses lol.

You have to keep in mind that different airlines have different maximum allowed size for this item. Can make the difference where you would need to go for a more squarish (“video” style) bag or a slimmer but otherwise larger one (“messenger” style). If you still fail in some airport, then check in the roller too and take just the “personal item” with you in the cabin. No airline would force you to separate yourself from just a messenger bag that is your only cabin luggage.



Jun 09, 2019 at 02:15 PM
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I carry a backpack (Airport Antidote or Manfrotto Bumblebee) and wear a small pack around my waist, which is where the heaviest lens and camera go. No one would assume anything. But I generally travel light. Small ultra-wide prime, wide prime, medium telephoto. For example, Laowa 15, Samyang 35/2.8, maybe a 28-105 or 85 GM, and the tiny Osmo Pocket for video. But I used to travel with everything, including Nikon 70-200 f/2.8 and big DSLR. I've never been weighed between Frankfurt and San Francisco, but even then the backpack is under the limit with a heavier item in the waist pack.


Jun 11, 2019 at 09:36 PM
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I use F Stop loka (older model) with small ICU for international travel. In my last trip in my backpack I had,
A7R3, Tamron 28-75, Laowa 10-18, Sony 16-35, 85mm GMaster. 100mm Filter set packed in Haida 100 Series Insert 6 pouch, camera/lens cleaning kit, Ball head (Novoflex tripod legs checked-in, but took the smalles Novoflex tripod legs in the backpack as an insurance) One set of light weight garments to change if needed. Also had 2 additional batteries and charger in the backpack. Didn't have any issues.



Jun 12, 2019 at 12:05 PM
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OP said backpack so that rules out other options.

As someone pointed out, backpack might be a suboptimal solution depending on where in the world you are going. Also, certain countries have different limitations regarding pack size and weight.

Regardless, less is more. The most flexible solution is to use a camera cube, and then insert it into whatever bad you need.

If you want to spend serious money I’d get something like a Peak Design Travel Bag with camera cube and then through in a ultralight Matador Freerain 24 as an on-site day bag.




Jun 12, 2019 at 03:22 PM
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I hate to check, so choose bags that always work for carry-on. I use a Vanguard Alta sky 45d, which measures: 12 1/4 x 9 x 19 1/2“ which fits everything except regional jets. Completely configurable interior, tough exterior, rain over, etc.

https://www.vanguardworld.com/products/alta-sky-45d






Aug 27, 2019 at 06:26 PM
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while you have it at 4KG, luggage alone is probably 3KG, you're at your limit if they allow only 7KG. I went with china airlines recently, and they were strict with the 7KG limit. I could have went around it , but didnt care to, I simply had my kids share the weight.

If I were you, I'de try to slim down the kit.

Leave the batter packs at home if you can, or limit to a 10,000 MAH on your body. I used a Scottevest to carry a lot of items, but it was uncomfortable.

I hope this 7KG kit is not normal, it's hardly anything.



Aug 27, 2019 at 07:00 PM
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Isn’t the OP headed to Iceland? Where are the 3, 4, and 7KG max-weights coming from? I just checked my upcoming INTL flights (United, Lufthansa, Air Canada, British Airways) and am seeing 23kg (50 lbs) max for my main carry on. IcelandAir is about half that at 10kg (22 lbs).

For fun, I weighed my already packed vanguard Alta sky 45d, and it comes in at 21 lbs with the following: A7rii, 3 batteries, CV 15, batis 25, Sony 55, 90mm macro, 135gm, remote trigger, 1 change of clothes including thermal top + bottom, toiletries, a 1.4kg (3.2 lb) travel tripod, & misc small stuff.



Aug 27, 2019 at 08:38 PM
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GSP_ wrote:
Isn’t the OP headed to Iceland? Where are the 3, 4, and 7KG weights coming from? I just checked my upcoming INTL flights (United, Lufthansa, Air Canada, British Airways) and am seeing 23kg (50 lbs) max for my main carry on. IcelandAir is about half that at 10kg (22 lbs).

For fun, I weighed my already packed vanguard Alta sky 45d, and it comes in at 21 lbs with the following: A7rii, 3 batteries, CV 15, batis 25, Sony 55, 90mm macro, 135gm, remote trigger, 1 change of clothes including thermal top + bottom, toiletries, a 1.4kg (3.2 lb) travel tripod,
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TS mentioned it in the original post. I don't have a clue on the airline, just planning for worst case. I was subject to the 7KG limit... It was shocking to find that it's a thing. Will need new luggage... Or different airline



Aug 27, 2019 at 08:49 PM
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For me, the carry-on rules are certainly a consideration when picking which airline to fly. There usually are alternative airlines on most routes (even on minor ones).


Aug 27, 2019 at 09:02 PM
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chiron wrote:
I'm just back from 3 weeks traveling in Europe. I took way too much, but this is how I carried it all in a carry-on:
A Tenba 8 bag and a Tenba 11 bag, each with a body and 3 lenses (one lens mounted on each camera), plus two larger lenses in separate neoprene pouches, and a neoprene sack that I also use as a camera bag, all placed within a normal 21 inch Samsonite carry on bag. Even with all that in the Samsonite carry-on, I still had room left for 6 travel books, socks & underwear, a light jacket,
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I do the same to some extent.

ThinkTank Horizon containing a packable pack to the overhead bin. Apex 140 as my "personal" under-the-seat carry-on.

When I get to my destination I have multiple ways to carry my gear for the day.




Aug 27, 2019 at 09:03 PM
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Charlie N wrote:
while you have it at 4KG, luggage alone is probably 3KG, you're at your limit if they allow only 7KG. I went with china airlines recently, and they were strict with the 7KG limit. I could have went around it , but didnt care to, I simply had my kids share the weight.

If I were you, I'de try to slim down the kit.

Leave the batter packs at home if you can, or limit to a 10,000 MAH on your body. I used a Scottevest to carry a lot of items, but it was uncomfortable.

I hope this 7KG kit is
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Yep. I looked at the kit in GSP's bag above and that (with the bag) is more like 10kgs. More and more regional airlines in Asia are now at a 7kgs limit, even some in Europe though EasyJet and BA have no weight limits. That said I've never been stopped and my LowePro Trek 350 is almost always between 7-10kgs.

The 10,000 MaH limit is important too. I had my 20,000 MaH charger confiscated by Security in Tianjin. All my battery packs are now 10,000 MaH.



Aug 28, 2019 at 12:10 AM
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