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Which is the 17-40L?
A is the 17-85IS, B is the 17-40L PollPollPoll 52 19%
A is the 17-40L, B is the 17-85IS PollPollPoll 112 41%
I don't know, but show me the results! PollPollPoll 109 40%
Total Votes 273 100%

Archive 2004 · 17-40L vs 17-85IS, ANSWER ON PG 5

  
 
Keith Wong
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p.1 #1 · 17-40L vs 17-85IS, ANSWER ON PG 5


I borrowed a friend's 17-85IS and compared it against my 17-40/4L. I did a spot of pixel peeping to see how good this new lens is. I mounted the camera on a tripod and did a series of shots at different apertures at 17mm and 40mm. I am only posting the 17mm comparison, but I assure you that at 40mm the results are quite similar.

Rather than tell you what I think of them, I thought I would show you the 100% crops and let you decide for yourself - which one is the consumer zoom, and which one is the L lens?

(edit) this is the full frame. All the following comparisons are 100% centre crops, straight out of the RAW converter. No sharpening applied.

http://www.pbase.com/amfibius/image/36977211/original.jpg



Edited by Amfibius on Dec 03, 2004 at 07:25 AM GMT



Nov 30, 2004 at 05:49 PM
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p.1 #2 · 17-40L vs 17-85IS, ANSWER ON PG 5


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Nov 30, 2004 at 05:49 PM
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p.1 #3 · 17-40L vs 17-85IS, ANSWER ON PG 5


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Nov 30, 2004 at 05:49 PM
Keith Wong
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p.1 #4 · 17-40L vs 17-85IS, ANSWER ON PG 5


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Nov 30, 2004 at 05:49 PM
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p.1 #5 · 17-40L vs 17-85IS, ANSWER ON PG 5


http://www.pbase.com/amfibius/image/36977256/original.jpg


Nov 30, 2004 at 05:50 PM
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p.1 #6 · 17-40L vs 17-85IS, ANSWER ON PG 5


A is clearly better than B on all counts so please tell me which is which s they are both lenses I am currently looking at.


Nov 30, 2004 at 06:04 PM
Keith Wong
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p.1 #7 · 17-40L vs 17-85IS, ANSWER ON PG 5


Mick I am not going to spill the beans so early in the game am I? I'll let the poll run for a couple of days then i'll tell you the answer.


Nov 30, 2004 at 06:06 PM
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p.1 #8 · 17-40L vs 17-85IS, ANSWER ON PG 5


Since they are not equal crops It will be hard to really judge. Comparing lens needs to be an exact copy to give a really good comparison.

Just my thoughts

Jerry



Nov 30, 2004 at 06:14 PM
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p.1 #9 · 17-40L vs 17-85IS, ANSWER ON PG 5


I made my guess, but a corner crop probably would have made the decision a lot easier.


Nov 30, 2004 at 06:23 PM
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p.1 #10 · 17-40L vs 17-85IS, ANSWER ON PG 5


"B" seems to show more distortion. The quality between the two, in this case, is nothing to get excited about.

-jason m



Nov 30, 2004 at 06:32 PM
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p.1 #11 · 17-40L vs 17-85IS, ANSWER ON PG 5


Hi Keith

Very interesting!

I presume both are shot with MLU

Was there much vibration from the road where you where shooting. If so, might favour the IS lens.



Nov 30, 2004 at 07:24 PM
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p.1 #12 · 17-40L vs 17-85IS, ANSWER ON PG 5


To my eyes on my monitor:

f/4.0 - A looks better
f/5.6 - B looks better
f/8.0 - a tie, maybe going to B
f/11 - A looks better

I voted "show me the results" because I honestly don't know.



Nov 30, 2004 at 08:21 PM
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p.1 #13 · 17-40L vs 17-85IS, ANSWER ON PG 5


steve g wrote:
Hi Keith

Very interesting!

I presume both are shot with MLU

Was there much vibration from the road where you where shooting. If so, might favour the IS lens.


Is MLU effective with respect to this kind of focal length?



Nov 30, 2004 at 08:23 PM
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p.1 #14 · 17-40L vs 17-85IS, ANSWER ON PG 5


steve g wrote:
Hi Keith

Very interesting!

I presume both are shot with MLU

Was there much vibration from the road where you where shooting. If so, might favour the IS lens.


What is MLU?



Nov 30, 2004 at 10:14 PM
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p.1 #15 · 17-40L vs 17-85IS, ANSWER ON PG 5


I would guess Miror Lock Up.


Nov 30, 2004 at 10:30 PM
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p.1 #16 · 17-40L vs 17-85IS, ANSWER ON PG 5


No MLU. And vibration on the bridge is not a factor, because of the high shutter speeds (1/125-1/1000s) and wide focal length. Also, IS was turned off when the lens was mounted on the tripod.


Nov 30, 2004 at 10:55 PM
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p.1 #17 · 17-40L vs 17-85IS, ANSWER ON PG 5


Out of curiosity, is the IS on the 17-85 tripod-compatible (like the IS on the 70-200)?


Nov 30, 2004 at 10:56 PM
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p.1 #18 · 17-40L vs 17-85IS, ANSWER ON PG 5


Shivatron wrote:
Out of curiosity, is the IS on the 17-85 tripod-compatible (like the IS on the 70-200)?


Good question!



Nov 30, 2004 at 11:19 PM
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p.1 #19 · 17-40L vs 17-85IS, ANSWER ON PG 5


The striking difference between the two sets of images is contrast.
A is so much more contrasty, even at f/4!
Therefore I am certain A is the 17-40.

Edited by christo on Dec 01, 2004 at 06:53 PM GMT



Nov 30, 2004 at 11:46 PM
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p.1 #20 · 17-40L vs 17-85IS, ANSWER ON PG 5


christo wrote:
The striking difference between the two sets of images is contrast.
A is so much more contrasty, even at f/4!
Therefore I am certain A is the 17-40.


right more contrast 17-40mm f4....the only same different to the 18-55mm and you can do that in PS.....



Dec 01, 2004 at 01:04 AM
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