p.20 #1 · In stock: Tamron 28-75mm f/2.8 E-mount ($799)
To be fair the new Tamron 28-70/2.8 is still an unknown in how it will really perform whereas the Sigma Art series are a superb range but I do wish they could find further size and weight savings. The 24, 35 and 50 Art series are comparable in size/weight but 20, 85 and 135 are too large for my liking.
p.20 #2 · In stock: Tamron 28-75mm f/2.8 E-mount ($799)
charles.K wrote:
I must say I was disappointed with Sigma's offerings as there was no design optimizations for the FE mounts.
None at all! And what's worse, their 105mm f/1.4 weighs 3.6lbs! 3.6lbs! That's almost twice what my Nikon version weighs, and it's the same speed and focal length! What. The. Hell? I love Sigma, but those bloated beasts won't be found in my collection. I've got a 35 f/1.4 and a 150 Macro from them that I love, but I think I'm done with their products until they can start combining excellent performance with a smaller profile.
p.20 #3 · In stock: Tamron 28-75mm f/2.8 E-mount ($799)
Mathieu18 wrote:
Keep in mind they had to forego 24-28mm. I hope they keep prioritizing size, even if it means something like 75-150/2.8 or 100-200/2.8
The loss of 24-28mm for a significant reduction in weight makes perfect sense to me. I can pick up a 300g Batis 18 or 25 to scratch that itch, and the whole setup would still weigh the same or less than an obese 24-70 GM (or Nikon/Canon equivalent), and give me more options (f/2 for the 25, or 18mm for the wider lens).
p.20 #4 · In stock: Tamron 28-75mm f/2.8 E-mount ($799)
'They've bought themselves time to go develop native e-mount products'
a7/a7r release: late 2013. Most would agree 4.5 years is more than 'enough time'.
No, Sigma backed the wrong horse (the DSLR nag) while we backed the strong runner (the dark horse a7x). The a7x series is a great lesson in how poor the quality of top level management is at several of these industry leaders. CZ release two warmed over ZM lenses and oversaw the early Batis fiasco, Sigma went MIA, Tamron worked with CZ/Sony on lens range development and gap filling, CV got on board quite early too. Kudos to Sony in the early days, the FE55 and FE 35/2.8 are well-supported to this day.
'Sony Corporation maintains an 11.38% share hold in Tamron, making it the second-largest shareholder..'
Tamron was established in 1950 and 'has sold five million lenses as of Sept 2014.'
If they keep at it, they might be considered establishment one of these days and get to put their feet up like their counterparts elsewhere. If you really want to see how badly the industry misread Sony's resolve, simply look at how many DSLR lenses Sigma and Zeiss have released since late 2013. They thought they had some control over events and read the press. But consumers saw it very differently. Some things you cannot see coming, like the film to digital changeover. But this was clear as day from the get go.
p.20 #5 · In stock: Tamron 28-75mm f/2.8 E-mount ($799)
philip_pj wrote:
'They've bought themselves time to go develop native e-mount products'
a7/a7r release: late 2013. Most would agree 4.5 years is more than 'enough time'.
No, Sigma backed the wrong horse (the DSLR nag) while we backed the strong runner (the dark horse a7x). The a7x series is a great lesson in how poor the quality of top level management is at several of these industry leaders. CZ release two warmed over ZM lenses and oversaw the early Batis fiasco, Sigma went MIA, Tamron worked with CZ/Sony on lens range development and gap filling, CV got on board quite early too. Kudos to Sony in the early days, the FE55 and FE 35/2.8 are well-supported to this day.
'Sony Corporation maintains an 11.38% share hold in Tamron, making it the second-largest shareholder..'
Tamron was established in 1950 and 'has sold five million lenses as of Sept 2014.'
If they keep at it, they might be considered establishment one of these days and get to put their feet up like their counterparts elsewhere. If you really want to see how badly the industry misread Sony's resolve, simply look at how many DSLR lenses Sigma and Zeiss have released since late 2013. They thought they had some control over events and read the press. But consumers saw it very differently. Some things you cannot see coming, like the film to digital changeover. But this was clear as day from the get go. ...Show more →
Wrong horse? You forget that, as exciting as the new Sony cameras are, this is still very much an echo chamber. Sony's marketshare barely even crosses the double digit percentage threshold. The return on investment for 3rd party manufacturers would simply not have been worth it in the past.
Canon and Nikon still *vastly* dominate the market, which means that DSLR-mount lenses will thrive far more than any FE lens, at least for now. In fact, the A9 was the landmark camera that solidified Sony in the professional market, and made everyone take note. Every Alpha camera is benefiting from those innovations now. By my count, that was hardly even a year ago.
Let's not kid ourselves about just how much we think the boat was missed. The boat is barely even leaving the harbor.
p.20 #6 · In stock: Tamron 28-75mm f/2.8 E-mount ($799)
The facts of the matter are clear. Trend lines for DSLR sales suffering many year-on-year falls have finally engendered sleepy 'dominators' Canon and Nikon to enter the MILC market, albeit five years after the horse has bolted. But you can check out CIPA data at many websites.
Bear in mind that the US is a market laggard, way behind global trends set in the burgeoning economies in East Asia. In summary however, DSLR sales are on a long downhill decline, while MILC is rising fast at present. It's now 1:2, and C/N have no serious entrant whatsoever in a 33% market segment.
All businesses must adapt or perish as structural change occurs. Some have not, and when consumers find themselves to be better predictors than the major players, it may cause a head scratch or two. We all welcome them of course, good for the entire industry as it tries to find a place in a phone world. Sony built its presence on the back of early adopters who have supported the a7 and RX1 series, who recognized early on the superior operation and image quality potential. It did not happen as a cloudburst these last six months, far from it.
p.20 #7 · In stock: Tamron 28-75mm f/2.8 E-mount ($799)
Maybe somebody is interested: Today I visited a small photo exhibition in Zürich, Switzerland. The Swiss distributor for Tamron proudly presented the new 28–75mm F/2.8 Di III RXD (Model A036) for the Sony E-mount. It will cost just over 1000 Swiss Franc, and if you buy it here in Switzerland they also have 10 years guarantee! Yes, I like it, will order it next week.
I did 6 "snap-shots" with my 7RM3, the JPG files are big (around 28mb each):
p.20 #8 · In stock: Tamron 28-75mm f/2.8 E-mount ($799)
micol wrote:
Maybe somebody is interested: Today I visited a small photo exhibition in Zürich, Switzerland. The Swiss distributor for Tamron proudly presented the new 28-75mm/2.8 with the Sony E-mount. It will cost just over 1000 Swiss Franc, and if you buy it here in Switzerland they also have 10 years guarantee!
I did 6 snap-shots with my 7RM3, the JPG files are big (around 28mb each). It's the first time for me, how can I upload the fotos?
If you have Flickr, you could upload them there, then share the URLs here
p.20 #9 · In stock: Tamron 28-75mm f/2.8 E-mount ($799)
You can’t upload the full version here, but I can send you a Google folder if you want to put them in that everyone can look at.
micol wrote:
Maybe somebody is interested: Today I visited a small photo exhibition in Zürich, Switzerland. The Swiss distributor for Tamron proudly presented the new 28-75mm/2.8 with the Sony E-mount. It will cost just over 1000 Swiss Franc, and if you buy it here in Switzerland they also have 10 years guarantee!
I did 6 snap-shots with my 7RM3, the JPG files are big (around 28mb each). It's the first time for me, how can I upload the fotos?
p.20 #11 · In stock: Tamron 28-75mm f/2.8 E-mount ($799)
Arka wrote:
None at all! And what's worse, their 105mm f/1.4 weighs 3.6lbs! 3.6lbs! That's almost twice what my Nikon version weighs, and it's the same speed and focal length! What. The. Hell? I love Sigma, but those bloated beasts won't be found in my collection. I've got a 35 f/1.4 and a 150 Macro from them that I love, but I think I'm done with their products until they can start combining excellent performance with a smaller profile.
The new 105 Art seems an insane entry in light of most lens/camera manufacturers are trying to lessen the size/weight. The reality check now is that the 24, 35 and to a lesser extent 50 Art are the same size for f/1.4 lenses. These 3 lenses are truly superb in IQ and pricing but moving forward Sigma do need to incorporate smaller and lighter lenses even at a higher entry price. I have these 3 lenses and have absolutely no interest in the larger beasts. For now it is just another choice. Lens designs and more importantly manufacturing is a balance of companies abilities to produce and hope that the sales produce the returns. The issue is not all lenses are superb regardless of the R&D effort and often after the initial hype the lenses soon lose interest in the market and just another meh lens.
I have always liked Tamron and I look forward to their newest entries
p.20 #12 · In stock: Tamron 28-75mm f/2.8 E-mount ($799)
micol wrote:
Maybe somebody is interested: Today I visited a small photo exhibition in Zürich, Switzerland. The Swiss distributor for Tamron proudly presented the new 28–75mm F/2.8 Di III RXD (Model A036) for the Sony E-mount. It will cost just over 1000 Swiss Franc, and if you buy it here in Switzerland they also have 10 years guarantee! Yes, I like it, will order it next week.
I did 6 "snap-shots" with my 7RM3, the JPG files are big (around 28mb each):
p.20 #13 · In stock: Tamron 28-75mm f/2.8 E-mount ($799)
^not seeing what you see. but my eyes are probably way older.
I'm seeing a $700 walk-about and not a Gmaster that's for sure.
But you're say it's decentered?
I know the images load quickly but not completely here, I had to give them a moment
to fully realize.
Micol thanks for wetting the appetite A lens I'll rarely use but want in the kit regardless.
p.20 #14 · In stock: Tamron 28-75mm f/2.8 E-mount ($799)
I like this post because it reminds us that while tech advancements are rapid and incrementalism isn’t always so incremental, that we’re still talking photography. Photographic companies are sloooow beasts. Sony is eating their lunch, but I agree the a9 is the first real diner. A7r3 and the a7 have just joined the table.
Tamron will sell a lot of these if IQ is there and qc is there.
eke2k6 wrote:
Wrong horse? You forget that, as exciting as the new Sony cameras are, this is still very much an echo chamber. Sony's marketshare barely even crosses the double digit percentage threshold. The return on investment for 3rd party manufacturers would simply not have been worth it in the past.
Canon and Nikon still *vastly* dominate the market, which means that DSLR-mount lenses will thrive far more than any FE lens, at least for now. In fact, the A9 was the landmark camera that solidified Sony in the professional market, and made everyone take note. Every Alpha camera is benefiting from those innovations now. By my count, that was hardly even a year ago.
Let's not kid ourselves about just how much we think the boat was missed. The boat is barely even leaving the harbor.
p.20 #15 · In stock: Tamron 28-75mm f/2.8 E-mount ($799)
micol wrote:
Maybe somebody is interested: Today I visited a small photo exhibition in Zürich, Switzerland. The Swiss distributor for Tamron proudly presented the new 28–75mm F/2.8 Di III RXD (Model A036) for the Sony E-mount. It will cost just over 1000 Swiss Franc, and if you buy it here in Switzerland they also have 10 years guarantee! Yes, I like it, will order it next week.
I did 6 "snap-shots" with my 7RM3, the JPG files are big (around 28mb each):
I looked at these as well.
I hope that this sample doesn't represent the performance of the lens.
I see strong inward field curvature at 28mm that results in soft corners at infinity, maybe this could be cured by careful focusing and stopping down.
I also see very strong lateral CA and spherical aberrations towards the corners at 75mm, still easily visible at f6.3.
The bad corner performance at 75mm would be quite bad for me, I also hope to use it as a general purpose travel lens (with focus on family portraits) and would like to have sharp 75mm across the frame for landscapes.
p.20 #16 · In stock: Tamron 28-75mm f/2.8 E-mount ($799)
Yes, the photos from the links look pretty poor. Also, 28-75 is too restrictive for me and 2.8 not a great benefit. I have no regrets with my 24-105 FE.
p.20 #17 · In stock: Tamron 28-75mm f/2.8 E-mount ($799)
Jannik Peters wrote:
I looked at these as well.
I hope that this sample doesn't represent the performance of the lens.
I see strong inward field curvature at 28mm that results in soft corners at infinity, maybe this could be cured by careful focusing and stopping down.
I also see very strong lateral CA and spherical aberrations towards the corners at 75mm, still easily visible at f6.3.
The bad corner performance at 75mm would be quite bad for me, I also hope to use it as a general purpose travel lens (with focus on family portraits) and would like to have sharp 75mm across the frame for landscapes....Show more →
Your comments make me think about cancelling my preorder. Sometimes, I think we expect no compromise designs in small packages and, except for wide angle (and not really even then) it does not happen.
p.20 #19 · In stock: Tamron 28-75mm f/2.8 E-mount ($799)
I also hope performance of the final lenses is a bit better than this, but personally I'm okay with what I see. This isn't an ultimate IQ lens, it's an ultimate convenience lens. I'm not shooting critical landscapes with it, but I don't think that's the lens' wheelhouse. At least for how I plan to use it, it'll still do it's job and the price is right. With the growth of the A7 system, even if this is final performance I'm willing to bed it'll still be a popular lens (we're a picky, but rather small group).
p.20 #20 · In stock: Tamron 28-75mm f/2.8 E-mount ($799)
It's very difficult to read the pictures of micol because it's unsure where he focussed to.
I did the preorder today. It is what it is: my replacement of the 28-70 kit-zoom (and not a landscape prime replacement). Beside the quality boost and the nicer rendering I will get a much faster aperture on top. And I'm sure it will fulfill my expectations here.
A lens I'll rarely use but want in the kit regardless.