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gdanmitchell wrote:
Which was my entire point, and the point of the person to whom I was replying. Glad to hear that you agree. ;-)
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Ah, the fact that you are already a heavy Photoshop user changes things. I missed that!
I think that the part you currently do in Aperture at the end ("cropping, darker, shadows") can actually be done easily and effectively in Photoshop, which you are already use! Here it is probably just a matter of learning how to do the things you are currently comfortable with in a different environment.
As to the file organization and selection and failure deletion that you now do in Aperture, you have options. I'm not positive which one is best, and it could even come down to a practical matter.
1. You could use Bridge, the natural front end to Photoshop. It is also an organization and selection tool, though it is less friendly in this regard than Lightroom. That said, more than a little of the hang-up here is that folks don't really understand it — how it works or what its capabilities are. (On a related note, a whole lot of people have no idea of the extent to which you can use Adobe Camera Raw, or "ACR," to do much of what they now do in LR or Photoshop. For example, you really want to use ACR to do your spot removal.)
2. You could just use Lightroom for the organizational tasks. It is really quite friendly in this regard. In fact, even though I'm a confirmed ACR/Photoshop user for my post-processing, when I have to sort through large numbers of images or distill a big set down to a few images I fire up LR for that. In addition, under the hood LR is doing exactly what ACR does when it comes to raw file conversion. It uses the same underlying software engine used in other Adobe products. It also integrates well with Photoshop.
3. You could use one of the third-party raw conversion tools. However, from what you are saying, I think that concerns about actual raw conversion aren't your biggest worry when it comes to selecting a tool — and most people who love these alternate tools tend to tell us that they believe that the raw conversions are better. Unless that is your concern — and it is not mine — I think that those third-party options seem less interesting to you.
Regarding destructive editing... I think you might consider the possibility of an entirely (in normal circumstances) non-destructive workflow. It is quite easy to do with ACR/Phothshop, and that is the way I work now. With only a few exceptions, every edit I make can be reversed. (Even dodging can be non-destructive, though by its nature it is hard to reverse in-part as opposed to wholesale.) One of the key factors is bringing converted raw images into Photoshop as smart layers. I'm still amazed at how many people do not do this, and how much more difficult this choice makes their work.
Good luck,
Dan
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Wow, Dan, sorry if my response bothered you or you deem it not worthy of being included in this discussion. I wasn't refuting or arguing against a closed chat between you and the person you responded to (I wasn't refuting or arguing against anything)-- I was adding to the discussion by bringing up other, non-price-related concerns that are surely relevant to this thread, and the discussion, and builds on what you were writing about.
That felt a bit rude.
I'm just another schmoe, working around the globe to feed myself with my photography, who has some history with Apple/Aperture/Lightroom in a professional capacity-- but perhaps that's not enough for you and your clique. (How about this novel idea: pro, amateur, expert, beginner... all of us using these tools can be part of the conversation, bring up or articulate or magnify points in the conversation, and try to do it in a civil, non-disparaging way?)
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To the OP and those participating in this thread in general, I'd still suggest that money is not the only, or necessarily even the main, consideration when it comes to what the subscription model for LR/PS means to your near, mid, and long-term photography plans/processing.
I don't personally thing there are universal right and wrong choices, but there are lots of options, concerns, and considerations when making such a major migration or taking on such a large learning curve. I've been there not so long ago. I imagine I'll be there again in the not so distant future.
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