twoshadows wrote:
Lisa Holloway, you are not the first bigot I've encountered as a transgender person. The idea that you think you are entitled enough to have an opinion on something you obviously know nothing about speaks volumes of you. You're a mother of what two children? And you know everything about children, and gender? I think the people who tell You you're a good photographer have gotten to your head, because you seem to think you know everything about everything. Just know this, denying someone's right to exist is a dangerous practice.
11 children. And never once have I claimed to know everything about everything. Your butt hurt is showing. I never denied anyone's right to exist either. Don't you dare put words into my mouth.
Exactly. As "trans-gender" choices are becoming more widely accepted, yet their suicide attempt rate is very high. You don't see suicides like this among persecuted groups like Jews, blacks, etc. Could the suicide attempts have more to do with the unhealthy decision and mental illness? In that case, which people are truly harming these children? Activists tell people how to respond and too many take note.
I don't care if you have hundred children. There're 7 billion people on this planet in the idea that you think you know anything about all of them is ridiculous.
KristinSmall wrote:
Exactly. As "trans-gender" choices are becoming more widely accepted, yet their suicide attempt rate is very high. You don't see suicides like this among persecuted groups like Jews, blacks, etc. Could the suicide attempts have more to do with the unhealthy decision and mental illness? In that case, which people are truly harming these children? Activists tell people how to respond and too many take note.
twoshadows wrote:
Transgender is no more a choice then being gay. Educate yourself.
You have zero proof of that. For every article/study you can find supposedly supporting this notion, there is equally compelling evidence that disputes it.
*I* am proof. I am transgender. It is not a choice. It never was a choice. But I embrace who I am because I am a beautiful human being. You are not transgender. You do not know. Stopping acting as if you do. You are ignorant stubborn and dangerous to the children you support.
twoshadows wrote:
*I* am proof. I am transgender. It is not a choice. It never was a choice. But I embrace who I am because I am a beautiful human being. You are not transgender. You do not know. Stopping acting as if you do. You are ignorant stubborn and dangerous to the children you support.
No, the adults encouraging this nonsense in children to further their own twisted agenda are dangerous to children. I'm a good mom. Thanks for playing though.
KristinSmall wrote:
The most "anti-bigoted" people are usually the most close-minded. The ones who cry "racist" the most are judging everybody and everything by race (including Lisa's clientele.) They are the opposite of color-blind or doing as MLKJ called for in judging people by the content of their character rather than their race. Those who cry the most about bullying are the most threatening, biggest name-callers, and most violent in the room. Even the College of Pediatrics call the promotion of gender confusion ideas in children as child abuse. Most mothers recognize that and will (or should) call it out when posted and celebrated.
The American College of Pediatricians (ACPeds) is a socially conservative advocacy group of pediatricians and other healthcare professionals in the United States.[1]
The group was founded in 2002 by a group of pediatricians, including Joseph Zanga, a past president of the American Academy of Pediatrics (AAP), as a protest against the AAP's support for adoption by gay couples.[2] The group's membership as of 2016 is estimated at 500 members,[4][5] in contrast to the AAP's over 60,000 members.[6]
ACPeds describes itself as "a national organization of pediatricians and other healthcare professionals dedicated to the health and well-being of children... committed to fulfilling its mission by producing sound policy, based upon the best available research, to assist parents and to influence society in the endeavor of childrearing."[7]
Zanga has described it as a group "with Judeo-Christian, traditional values that is open to pediatric medical professionals of all religions" provided that they "hold true to the group's core beliefs: that life begins at conception; and that the traditional family unit, headed by an opposite-sex couple, poses far fewer risk factors in the adoption and raising of children."[8]
The organization's view on parenting is at odds with the position of the American Academy of Pediatrics, which holds that sexual orientation has no correlation with the ability to be a good parent and to raise healthy and well-adjusted children.[5][9][10]
The American College of Pediatricians has been described by the Southern Poverty Law Center as a "hate group", with "a history of propagating damaging falsehoods about LGBT people".[11][12]
That's what you've been taught. The College of Pediatrics admits that assigning such ideas to young children as conditioning and this is what spurned the conversation on this thread. There is no biological "gene" or any other biological indicator in any of these cases. What you state is certainly not a proven fact.
Ah, so if you go against radical and liberal ideas, it's because you are conservative, but the reverse is not true? They come to their conclusions based on study and research. Of the two, the ACP has less of an agenda and are less subject by political and social influence.
I'll leave you with this Kristen and Lisa. Go ahead, keep spouting your FOXNews, theo-political BS. One day you are going to wake up. I fear that day will be when one of your children kills themselves because you've convinced them that they are somehow wrong, and need to be fixed. This is what happens to our transgender children. You know It happens - it's in the news (Google Leelah Alcorn). So go ahead, guardian of children, keep telling them that they're not right, that what they feel is wrong and watch what happens. You need an education badly.
Lisa_Holloway wrote:
No, the adults encouraging this nonsense in children to further their own twisted agenda are dangerous to children. I'm a good mom. Thanks for playing though.
Have you ever consider the possibility that you could be wrong? You are offending many with your irrational gospel.
Javier Munoz wrote:
Have you ever consider the possibility that you could be wrong? You are offending many with your irrational gospel.
I will consider the possibility that I am wrong when there is irrefutable proof that I am. Until then, people are going to have opinions about this. It's a hot issue. And if you are offended, that is not really my problem. Don't be so easily offended. Not everyone is going to agree with you.
Javier Munoz wrote:
Have you ever consider the possibility that you could be wrong? You are offending many with your irrational gospel.
Have you? Have you considered that your views are actually perpetuating mental illness which leads to suicide? Lisa's children are healthy. So are mine. We both speak up when children are being used as pawns in a grown-up's game.
KristinSmall wrote:
Have you? Have you considered that your views are actually perpetuating mental illness which leads to suicide? Lisa's children are healthy. So are mine. We both speak up when children are being used as pawns in a grown-up's game.
I have. I happen to have a major in psychology and a PhD in Neuroscience plus more of a decade of postdoctoral research experience. I also happen to have been raised in the belief that scientific methodology can bring us closer to knowledge.
The fact than you and Lisa have healthy children means nothing. For one, what the OP is portraying is not unhealthy, it happens in most animal species and it does not pose a risk to their health per se.
The fact that it happens to a relatively small percentage of population can explain why not every single family will have a person with identity problems in their families.
Moreover, when it happens in families such as yours or Lisa's, that situation usually lead to either unhappy people that have been hammered down to norm and live the rest of their life of dissatisfaction and in most cases misery; people that is forced to break bonds with the family; or suicide.
Javier, your major also means nothing. Very few so-called scientists even know what the Scientific Method is anymore. Too often, it is corrupted by politics and money. There is little data out there that you can actually trust anymore. Dissenters are not encouraged to research but are shut down (much like Copernicus or Galileo were in their days.) Animals do NOT identify themselves by the opposite gender. They mate to reproduce (not for love.) If my children were confused, I would help them. We don't break bonds. A leading cause of suicide is mental illness. No one is trying to change you, but it is abuse to perpetuate such things on children.
Lisa_Holloway wrote:
Nope. Not irrefutable considering there is "science" saying the exact opposite of what you spout as truth.
No there is not. You are now showing your true colors. Quite frankly, I am sick and tired of political nutballs and their sub-scientific "there are no facts rants" no matter whether they are nutball right wingers or idiotic left wingers
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