I am looking at Sony and with TC it will go to 560mm but weight is there no doubt.
EM1.2 plus 300/4 is 1845. Maybe just manageable. Canon set up (5d4+100-400) is about 2500 grams.
MedicineMan404 wrote:
I'm about to fall off the fence too, but with a Sony buffer between me and the ground.
I just want one more round with the 1DXii + 500 at Conowingo and I'll be ready for purgatory with the Sony kit. That weight reduction (Canon to Sony) should eek me out a few more years before the joints can only tolerate mFT.
Sony's latest screams they're going for it ~sports/wildlife~ and their FE100-400GM makes it finally feasible for e-mount but moreso that an FE500 is in the pipe.
I politely disagree with Bobby depending on wildlife venue 100-400 with TC has treated me well, in Florida a couple of weeks ago the 1DXii with 100-400ii and 1.4TC brought home many keepers-but this was a wildlife venue where I could get reasonably close. At Conowingo 500mm with 1.4TC just barely make the cut distance wise.
In the mean time I'll keep active with the M1ii and the process of mastering it (will never happen and enjoying what it has to offer.
Speaking of, when I compare the specs of the Sony alpha9 I'm eerily reminded of the M1ii, excepting sensor size of course. ...Show more →
E-M1.2 + 300/4 is more than "just manageable" although personally I prefer to mount it on a tripod or monopod for maximum stability/sharpness, and shoot in silent mode when it's practical. But it is most definitely very hand-holdable, and Sync-IS is huge.
nandadevieast wrote:
I am looking at Sony and with TC it will go to 560mm but weight is there no doubt.
EM1.2 plus 300/4 is 1845. Maybe just manageable. Canon set up (5d4+100-400) is about 2500 grams.
Yes, IS is a big deal in Oly set up. Really sets it apart.
Honestly, the M43 must be more than good enough. Its a psychological thing about us where we want the best, but functionally one can do everything with this set up i am sure. I have never felt linited by RX100 original when i had it for couple of month. Neither i feel limited by my love, DP2 Merrill where i always shoot ISO 100 to ISO 200.
bobbytan wrote:
E-M1.2 + 300/4 is more than "just manageable" although personally I prefer to mount it on a tripod or monopod for maximum stability/sharpness, and shoot in silent mode when it's practical. But it is most definitely very hand-holdable, and Sync-IS is huge.
nandadevieast wrote:
Honestly, the M43 must be more than good enough. Its a psychological thing about us where we want the best, but functionally one can do everything with this set up i am sure.
I think those two sentences sum it up nicely . I had to overcome the same psychology.
Agree that there will always be this psychological barrier. After all, it is still a fact that the DSLR will do a better job especially with BIF even though m43 now, with the E-M1.2 and GH5 and lenses like the 300/4 PRO and PL 100-400, will do the job.
nandadevieast wrote:
Yes, IS is a big deal in Oly set up. Really sets it apart.
Honestly, the M43 must be more than good enough. Its a psychological thing about us where we want the best, but functionally one can do everything with this set up i am sure. I have never felt linited by RX100 original when i had it for couple of month. Neither i feel limited by my love, DP2 Merrill where i always shoot ISO 100 to ISO 200.
whoever wants the light gear, M43 is best for them. Official system of old men
If i will be honest with myself, i have never made use of the AF-C tracking capabilities of various cameras. It has been nice to learn about how few cameras track but i have never put that to use. Chances are if you give me such a camera, i will stil chug along like always. And i am sure if i saw a tracking opportunity, i will still take those 3 frames if i push myself too hard
bobbytan wrote:
Agree that there will always be this psychological barrier. After all, it is still a fact that the DSLR will do a better job especially with BIF even though m43 now, with the E-M1.2 and GH5 and lenses like the 300/4 PRO and PL 100-400, will do the job.
Oh Gosh, this will take Mitesh out or the equation then - he is by no means an old man!
Sounds like the E-M1.2 is the ideal camera for you ... as AF-S rocks ... more so than AF-C.
nandadevieast wrote:
whoever wants the light gear, M43 is best for them. Official system of old men
If i will be honest with myself, i have never made use of the AF-C tracking capabilities of various cameras. It has been nice to learn about how few cameras track but i have never put that to use. Chances are if you give me such a camera, i will stil chug along like always. And i am sure if i saw a tracking opportunity, i will still take those 3 frames if i push myself too hard
Hehe, even i am not old as old goes, but i hate to carry heavy stuff. I am a thin guy, and a heavy shoulder bag soon starts picking on my neck.
Other thing regardless of old age, having gear with you is really important when you are walking traveling in remote places or for a long time. It just works even if you have a ok camera. There could be a reason these 500s and 600s are used in a certain way and always for similar subjects. Its because they are heavy and usage is restrictive. But a tele like that could be versatile if its with you when you are out hiking. It is this possibility of using it like a 70-200/4 that excites me because i am sure i will not be able to find any fresh angles or subjects with those 600s.
bobbytan wrote:
Oh Gosh, this will take Mitesh out or the equation then - he is by no means an old man!
Sounds like the E-M1.2 is the ideal camera for you ... as AF-S rocks ... more so than AF-C.
Maybe we should provide Anurag with some alternative adjectives to consider using instead of "old". I'll start by suggesting "sensible" and "reasonable".
bobbytan wrote:
Oh Gosh, this will take Mitesh out or the equation then - he is by no means an old man!
Sounds like the E-M1.2 is the ideal camera for you ... as AF-S rocks ... more so than AF-C.
I love the fact that I can easily take the Olympus 300mm to Europe with me and carry where I would never take my Canon 500mm/4 and thus get shots I otherwise wouldn't get. Even though I'm not old yet.
nandadevieast wrote:
Hehe, even i am not old as old goes, but i hate to carry heavy stuff. I am a thin guy, and a heavy shoulder bag soon starts picking on my neck.
Other thing regardless of old age, having gear with you is really important when you are walking traveling in remote places or for a long time. It just works even if you have a ok camera. There could be a reason these 500s and 600s are used in a certain way and always for similar subjects. Its because they are heavy and usage is restrictive. But a tele like that could be versatile if its with you when you are out hiking. It is this possibility of using it like a 70-200/4 that excites me because i am sure i will not be able to find any fresh angles or subjects with those 600s.
On Facebook EM1.2 group there are thousands of active members, 6562 to be precise, and they keep posting all the time. Either their experience or pictures. Sometimes, all of a sudden, you get to see an astounding shot. Its pretty active over there.
mitesh wrote:
I don't participate in the book of faces, so I haven't seen those comments. Neither of my 2 E-M1.2 cameras has frozen up or exhibited any type of unwanted behavior or error code. I couldn't resist testing out the weather sealing and did rinse them off under running water, with no ill effects .
and enjoying what it has to offer.
