brian_sp wrote:
nikon did a good job of covering up the D500, i don't recall even seeing a rumor about it
Not sure that this is actually a good thing. The 7DM2 was out there for a full year to entice any D300/D300S shooters without a hint of the D500 from Nikon.
Jman13 wrote:
This was my first thought. I saw the announcement and thought "Oh...a new lower end full-frame body." I'm not a Nikon shooter, but with the D700, D600, D610, D750, D800, D810, etc....all are full frame, and the high end DX cameras have all been four digit for a while. This is going to cause a lot of confusion.
Nikon screwed it up by going with the D700 as a FX camera a couple of years after the D300s came out. Then followed that up with the D800, D810, and now the D750, which isn't much like the previous three. They lost their way for a while, but looks like they are getting back. If the D500 is supposed to accompany the D5, what will happen when they come out with the D7 in a couple of year?
Jman13 wrote:
This is going to cause a lot of confusion.
Nikon's product line is the source of endless confusion .
This announcement only made sense to me- a Canon shooter- because I've taken the time to research Nikon's lens and camera lineup, at least through the digital age, for my own benefit. I'm a Canon shooter by flip of a coin, you see, and have stayed there mainly due to luck (I'd be happily shooting a D750 today, if I'd started anew).
Exciting news from the world of DSLRs, one that no one was leaking or rumoring. I'm not too familiar with the Nikon DX lenses but outside of the 17-55 2.8 which is getting up there, are there any real solid DX-only lenses are are they expecting the masses to slap on FX glass on this? I see that there's a kit option as well, but $1,100 for a variable kit lens seems like it's asking a lot.
Shhh. Don't tell Nikon but may have just lost a D5 sale from me - I think this D500 is exactly what I want for wildlife. Not saying a D5 is out of the picture for sure, but I'll be getting a D500 first. Very exciting and surprising.
TMaG82 wrote:
Exciting news from the world of DSLRs, one that no one was leaking or rumoring. I'm not too familiar with the Nikon DX lenses but outside of the 17-55 2.8 which is getting up there, are there any real solid DX-only lenses are are they expecting the masses to slap on FX glass on this? I see that there's a kit option as well, but $1,100 for a variable kit lens seems like it's asking a lot.
The 'kit' lens is Nikon's well-regarded 16-80/2.8-4E VR. Sadly, it looks like Nikon is selling the lens in a kit which costs the addition of the full retail price of the lens over the bare camera, so you're not going to get a discount for the bundle, unless that (probably) changes by the time the camera hits retail.
But outside of the few crop lenses (and third-party options), there's very little reason to not use Nikon's competitive full-frame glass on this camera.
TMaG82 wrote:
Exciting news from the world of DSLRs, one that no one was leaking or rumoring. I'm not too familiar with the Nikon DX lenses but outside of the 17-55 2.8 which is getting up there, are there any real solid DX-only lenses are are they expecting the masses to slap on FX glass on this? I see that there's a kit option as well, but $1,100 for a variable kit lens seems like it's asking a lot.
I think *most* people buying the D500 will be mating it to FX glass, for example super zooms, 70-200's, and big primes. The camera is aimed squarely at action/wildlife shooters, with it's lower resolution, top end AF system, huge buffer, and 10 FPS. When reach and speed are the main concerns, the go-to lenses are almost all FX anyway.
There are DX lenses on the wide end, but they are less impressive. The new 16-80 is quite good, despite it's variable aperture. Sigma & Tamron make 17-50/2.8 stabilized zooms that are as good as the Nikon version. Nikon's 10-20 DX is a pretty good lens. DX primes are lacking, but that isn't a big market. So yeah, the DX-only lineup isn't the greatest but I don't think a lot of D500 owners will be looking for much DX glass.
snapsy wrote:
Not sure that this is actually a good thing. The 7DM2 was out there for a full year to entice any D300/D300S shooters without a hint of the D500 from Nikon.
That, and it's hard to see where the D500 is a solidly better choice aside from the F-mount.
No resolution advantage- why this sensor rather than the 24MP DX sensor in the D7200? Better high-ISO? Was low-ISO DR sacrificed?
More 'sophisticated' AF system, but does that really make a difference? This can get in the way as much as it can help.
4k video? But is this a reason to buy the camera, rather than an alternative, and how is the focus tracking, which is a major selling point of the 7D II? Will it be a tripod-only, prefocus video queen as current Nikon DSLRs are, and if so, how does that help?
Wireless options? Sure, but again, is the 'connected crowd' a market for Nikon's nearly-pro DX camera and it's US$2,000 pricetag?
CanadaMark wrote:
I think *most* people buying the D500 will be mating it to FX glass, for example super zooms, 70-200's, and big primes. The camera is aimed squarely at action/wildlife shooters, with it's lower resolution, top end AF system, huge buffer, and 10 FPS. When reach and speed are the main concerns, the go-to lenses are almost all FX anyway.
There are DX lenses on the wide end, but they are less impressive. The new 16-80 is quite good, despite it's variable aperture. Sigma & Tamron make 17-50/2.8 stabilized zooms that are as good as the Nikon version. Nikon's 10-20 DX is a pretty good lens. DX primes are lacking, but that isn't a big market. So yeah, the DX-only lineup isn't the greatest but I don't think a lot of D500 owners will be looking for much DX glass....Show more →
Thanks for the clarification. This truly does look like a mini-D5 more than the 7D2 was touted as the mini-1DX.
I haven't been following the advancements of screen technology, but the rear screen being 2.4 million dots, has that been done before? I remember most being around 920k or even 1.2 million, but 2.4?
TMaG82 wrote:
Thanks for the clarification. This truly does look like a mini-D5 more than the 7D2 was touted as the mini-1DX.
The 7D II is *more* than a mini-1D X would be, as the 1D X is an outgoing model slated for replacement very soon .
(and that's really what both of these cameras are, without a doubt- semi-pro/near-pro crop versions of each companies' professional full-frame cameras)
I purchased a D7200 last summer and was thinking to add a D750 sometime this year. I might get the D500 instead depending on how the high iso files look in terms of noise. I have a D600 if I get in a pinch, but I'm already pretty impressed with what the D7200 does and having the same apparent focal length for my lenses would make things simpler. It will be a long time until I can afford a D4/5/6, which would probably always be overkill for me anyway.
TMaG82 wrote:
I haven't been following the advancements of screen technology, but the rear screen being 2.4 million dots, has that been done before? I remember most being around 920k or even 1.2 million, but 2.4?
Count the 'dots' on your cellphone (which is triple the number of pixels)- camera screen technology has lagged considerably behind basic LCD/OLED technology because it was mostly not needed. Nikon likely upgraded theirs for the D500/D5 pair because they wanted to be able to display more information in terms of menus, settings, data, etc.
CanadaMark wrote:
I think *most* people buying the D500 will be mating it to FX glass, for example super zooms, 70-200's, and big primes. The camera is aimed squarely at action/wildlife shooters, with it's lower resolution, top end AF system, huge buffer, and 10 FPS. When reach and speed are the main concerns, the go-to lenses are almost all FX anyway.
There are DX lenses on the wide end, but they are less impressive. The new 16-80 is quite good, despite it's variable aperture. Sigma & Tamron make 17-50/2.8 stabilized zooms that are as good as the Nikon version. Nikon's 10-20 DX is a pretty good lens. DX primes are lacking, but that isn't a big market. So yeah, the DX-only lineup isn't the greatest but I don't think a lot of D500 owners will be looking for much DX glass....Show more →
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