keoniahlo wrote:
I actually think the touch screen is a move in the right direction...imagine if Apple thought touch screens were gimmicks when they launched the iPhone. I think it's just a matter of getting it right and perhaps taking a lesson from Apple/Samsung with their tough "gorilla glass" thing to these cams. Needs to be at least as tough as phones!
The only concern- especially with 'pro-grade' cameras- is that the touch screen is another point of failure; and that if it were damaged, it could make the camera difficult to control.
That said, it's only truly useful for things like Live View shooting where you can touch your focus point, or for video to show what to track. Assuming you're using the camera as a camera, it may just get in the way.
johnctharp wrote:
The only concern- especially with 'pro-grade' cameras- is that the touch screen is another point of failure; and that if it were damaged, it could make the camera difficult to control.
That said, it's only truly useful for things like Live View shooting where you can touch your focus point, or for video to show what to track. Assuming you're using the camera as a camera, it may just get in the way.
FYI, there's a menu option to disable touch controls so if there ever was a problem you can at least turn it off.
74 frames is only 7.4 seconds!! Still pretty good to me! I don't really see the point of a 20 seconds buffer! I rarely hold my shutter for more then a few seconds! Even with a slow card , 74 frames is pretty good!
I cant wait to see some high iso samples (other than the back of camera pictures). I gave up waiting for a d400 a couple years ago and got a used d700. any thoughts on how it will compare to the d700?
Given how much time has passed, I'll take a flyer here and guess that the D500 will beat the D700's DR, ISO latitude, and overall image quality. But we'll have to wait and see.
CanadaMark wrote:
Reviews on that card suggests it does around 170MB/s write sustained, which could be one reason for the smaller buffer. 74 frames is still pretty good for most people I would think, especially if you don't want to buy into XQD. I'd be curious to see what it did with a mid-range XQD card, or something below the 440MB/s ones.
Exactly what I'm wondering. If we can get away with a 1000x XQD or even a 2000x or 1000x UHS-II SDXC, that would save a ton of $$$.
Rodolfo Paiz wrote:
Given how much time has passed, I'll take a flyer here and guess that the D500 will beat the D700's DR, ISO latitude, and overall image quality. But we'll have to wait and see.
That would be a enough for me to move to DX and burn some cash, otherwise I'll just find a nice copy of D700 and use it until it dies. I'm still blown away browsing through D700 flicker stream.
I wish I have never sold my lovely D700..
One thing that I wish they would do, maybe they have but I haven't seen anything about it and don't in any of my cameras, is handle slot 2 a little differently. If you have 2 set to be backup of 1 (my normal setup) it shouldn't slow things down like it does. The backup should run during time that the camera is idle (or at least not actively writing to card 1). I really hate that the buffer takes longer to clear with a second card, when it would be so easy to write a bit of code to prevent that.
Jan 11, 2016 at 08:59 AM
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reggieb wrote:
One thing that I wish they would do, maybe they have but I haven't seen anything about it and don't in any of my cameras, is handle slot 2 a little differently. If you have 2 set to be backup of 1 (my normal setup) it shouldn't slow things down like it does. The backup should run during time that the camera is idle (or at least not actively writing to card 1). I really hate that the buffer takes longer to clear with a second card, when it would be so easy to write a bit of code to prevent that. ...Show more →
The Japanese are not known for their software
Jan 11, 2016 at 09:58 AM
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Rodolfo Paiz wrote:
Given how much time has passed, I'll take a flyer here and guess that the D500 will beat the D700's DR, ISO latitude, and overall image quality. But we'll have to wait and see.
You are likely correct ... the march of technology is a wonderful thing.
reggieb wrote:
One thing that I wish they would do, maybe they have but I haven't seen anything about it and don't in any of my cameras, is handle slot 2 a little differently. If you have 2 set to be backup of 1 (my normal setup) it shouldn't slow things down like it does. The backup should run during time that the camera is idle (or at least not actively writing to card 1). I really hate that the buffer takes longer to clear with a second card, when it would be so easy to write a bit of code to prevent that. ...Show more →
One idea I posted a few years ago was an option for the camera to interleave bursts across the two cards rather than back up (even when in backup mode). The idea being that there's no need to have a backup for each image in a burst since every two images of a burst are nearly identical anyway. This would increase the buffer clearing throughput of bursts by 2x (ie, when the extra throughput is needed), provided the internal I/O bus to the two cards doesn't have any serialization bottlenecks. For non-bursts or short bursts the camera would still store all images to both cards.
ARRRRGH! I keep wanting this D500... I could afford it if I sold my D750 and two lenses.. If I was able to sell them at reasonable used prices I would have enough to purchase a D500 and a second hand 17-55 2.8...
But doing so I lose 24mm and VR from selling my 24-70... my 70-200 2.8 mid range zoom becomes longer and well since I use the 70-200 for dance recitals and the like I won't be able to go as wide unless I spend money to buy a 50-150... I also lose the use of a backup body because well I planned to purchase a D7100 or D7200 this spring as a backup and to give myself the crop length...
But I would gain a much more usable spread of AF point selection due to the array covering most of the sensor... and the ISO might be decent enough for what I use as I cap my acceptable ISO on the D750 at 12800.... Or I could wait... I mean the 7Dmkii came out at 1799 and now sells used/slightly new/grey market around 1k-1.1k.... so maybe the D500 will have a precipitous drop in price? (Doubt it since I know the D750 came out at 2299 and still sells new for around 1800-1900...)
Decisions decisions! Sad part is I can't sell my camera now and pre-order because the wife would kill me if I was cameraless for any extended period of time... That and I am only speculating on the ISO and AF the D750 provides...
werds wrote:
ARRRRGH! I keep wanting this D500... I could afford it if I sold my D750 and two lenses.. If I was able to sell them at reasonable used prices I would have enough to purchase a D500 and a second hand 17-55 2.8...
But doing so I lose 24mm and VR from selling my 24-70... my 70-200 2.8 mid range zoom becomes longer and well since I use the 70-200 for dance recitals and the like I won't be able to go as wide unless I spend money to buy a 50-150... I also lose the use of a backup body because well I planned to purchase a D7100 or D7200 this spring as a backup and to give myself the crop length...
But I would gain a much more usable spread of AF point selection due to the array covering most of the sensor... and the ISO might be decent enough for what I use as I cap my acceptable ISO on the D750 at 12800.... Or I could wait... I mean the 7Dmkii came out at 1799 and now sells used/slightly new/grey market around 1k-1.1k.... so maybe the D600 will have a precipitous drop in price? (Doubt it since I know the D750 came out at 2299 and still sells new for around 1800-1900...)
Decisions decisions! Sad part is I can't sell my camera now and pre-order because the wife would kill me if I was cameraless for any extended period of time... That and I am only speculating on the ISO and AF the D750 provides......Show more →
Your dilemma is similar to mine, even though I shoot racing. I have a D700, would like to upgrade to something newer with better high ISO. I don't care for the 36MP files from a D800 or D810, they're too big unless you're doing huge murals, which I don't do. The D750 is okay. But the body is similar to a D7xxx because of the knobs and locations of some controls. I'm not used to that. The body on the D500 is like what I'm used to, along with a bigger viewfinder, but I'd have to find a suitable midrange lens if I can find one fast enough. To this point, I have not. I may end up waiting to see what the next FX body is.
