gdanmitchell wrote:
I recently saw a complete explanation of the speed rating. 6fps is an optimal rate, but various things can make it slower — focus settings, battery level, and more. I suspect this is at least somewhat true for most cameras.
Dan
Especially if you set up AF tracking priority to focus. That will definitely slow down the FPS in low light. I've had two 1D2's, a 1D4, and now a 1DX/7D2 combo and rarely is the FPS rate a constant.
ggreene wrote:
Especially if you set up AF tracking priority to focus. That will definitely slow down the FPS in low light. I've had two 1D2's, a 1D4, and now a 1DX/7D2 combo and rarely is the FPS rate a constant.
Agreed, though from my experience bodies with the new AF system (1DX especially) have a far more consistent fps rate than the 1D4 or earlier.
Andrew J wrote:
In servo every Canon body takes a 1 fps hit. It is impossible for 4 fps to sound fast.
The diff between 8fps (1D MK II N) and 6fps (5D III) seems tolerable @ horseshoes & hand grenades. But going from 5 down to 4 somehow seems like a country mile of difference. Of course, the 5Ds(R) wasn't built for speed as it's primary objective, so that's to be understood that you're making concessions of one attribute for another. In the vein of get the right tool for the right job, the 5Ds(R) isn't something that I think should be considered where fps is of any significant concern.
5DS vs 5DIII
Like the anti-flicker.
Buffer a little slow to clear at times.
Love the shutter -sound feel.
I have not had to change my normal shooting technique.
Better files in PP(recovery-shadows). ... except high ISO. Above 3200.
The 2nd my menu ... love this!
I do like the 'new' life on some lenses because of the resolution: 24-70L or 85 f1.8 comes to mind.
fyi: I use the 5DS and a 5DIII in wedding (including bridals) work. I have not pulled the trigger yet. Just want to make sure it is the right move for the business.
Testing over 3 more weddings in the coming weeks.
RustyBug wrote:
The diff between 8fps (1D MK II N) and 6fps (5D III) seems tolerable @ horseshoes & hand grenades. But going from 5 down to 4 somehow seems like a country mile of difference. Of course, the 5Ds(R) wasn't built for speed as it's primary objective, so that's to be understood that you're making concessions of one attribute for another. In the vein of get the right tool for the right job, the 5Ds(R) isn't something that I think should be considered where fps is of
any significant concern.
This is where Nikon has an advantage with the D810. It's able to use a crop function that goes to 7FPS. That kind of added flexibility broadens its appeal. Kind of surprised that the Sony A7Rii doesn't have faster FPS in crop mode. If it did, it would be a lot more tempting.
+1 @ D810 (3DX also) ... thinking / hoping the 5D4 might get some of that crop factor + speed relationship, now that we're seeing the 1.3X and 1.6X crop factor in the 5Ds(R) (without fps benefit).
But, it'll be a delicate balance where to place the MP & FPS in the 5D4 relative to the 5Ds(R) ... thinking that 30MP-ish with 6fps FF, 7fsp 1.3X and 8fps 1.6X would be a pretty sweet setup. That would still leave the 50MP on the table for the 5Ds(R) sales, without getting "too close" to it, and not being "that far" from the D810 @ split the diff between D750 and D810.
That would be a primary body that would hit my sweet-spot. The question for me is 5DIII then upgrade, or 5Ds(R) then downgrade ... considering what might happen to 5Ds(R) values upon release of 5D4, thinking that the two (used 5Ds(R) vs. new 5D4) could be close(r) to a wash by then.
Not sure what people are complaining about. You've got about a sixty-five mb raw file slamming out of there at 5 fps. That's a lot of data being moved. And seeing as how this is designated as a studio camera (of course you can use it for whatever) the frame rate is more than adequate. I did a big beautiful people shoot in the studio shoot last week and the fastest I could shoot was about every three seconds, which is how fast the two of the 2400 w/s packs would recycle at full power. 5 fps was great for the 1DsMKIII and it's great for this camera. A much bigger problem was getting the lens to flare on purpose.
I wish I could share the shots from last Tuesday. Not yet, but this camera produces the best files I've ever seen from Canon. They are truly spectacular.
RustyBug wrote:
But, it'll be a delicate balance where to place the MP & FPS in the 5D4 relative to the 5Ds(R) ... thinking that 30MP-ish with 6fps FF, 7fsp 1.3X and 8fps 1.6X would be a pretty sweet setup. That would still leave the 50MP on the table for the 5Ds(R) sales, without getting "too close" to it, and not being "that far" from the D810 @ split the diff between D750 and D810.
A good indicator will be the 1DX2 since the rumors indicate that it will be announced first. If it ups the ante on FPS Canon could just forego any crop modes and just offer 8FPS in FF. A 14-16FPS 1DX2, 8FPS 5D4, and 10FPS 7D2 would be a nice lineup.
I think the 5Ds/R is a stop gap measure with a limited development process behind it. I have a feeling it will updated fairly quickly (at least in Canon terms).
An 8FPS 5D4 (esp. with 1.6X crop mode) ... no need for a 10FPS 7D2 for me. Set that 5D4 around 28-33 MP with 8FPS (even if grip is needed for an optional hi-cap battery instead of two little ones) and you've got a REALLY good all around camera ... worthy of the acclaim from its original ancestor in its day.
