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p.10 #1 · D800 impact damage/cracked frame


Catching up on this as well.

I'm tempted to take the base off my cracked D800 and see if the crack is in the same area? Can anyone provide info on where the base screws are located? I'm guessing a few of them are under the tripod mount rubber area?



Jan 27, 2015 at 04:34 PM
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p.10 #2 · D800 impact damage/cracked frame


Hans,

Thanks for the comments, regarding focus problems , I did not mention it, but it's all fine, the blurr I was seeing is due to the camera moving on the tripod

Mary, thanks for starting this thread hope you do not mind my "Me too" content

okephoto, yes, remove the rubber around the tripod mount, there are 4 screws, size 0 , 4 more screws around the battery door, size 00, watch the position of these 4 screws, 2 have threads for plastic -more coarse -, and the other 2 for metal. Use good JIS screwdrivers , regular phillips may round the screw heads

once the screws are off a rubber piece will come off from near the hinge of the battery door, it's easy to put back.

the rubber around the tripod mount is also easily reattached

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Jan 27, 2015 at 04:57 PM
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p.10 #3 · D800 impact damage/cracked frame


Hi Mary,
I am not sure which other cameras have a tripod mount that is not molded or directly mounted to the main chassis, but this is definitely the first time I ever saw it. Not only that the base of the D800 is basically hollowed or lack of any metal as can be seen on Armando's last photo.
The rest of your questions can be found after you go through all the posts here.
Regards, Hans

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Jan 27, 2015 at 04:57 PM
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p.10 #4 · D800 impact damage/cracked frame


Thanks Armando,

I'll try and locate some good screwdrivers. Have needed them before so a good time to buy. Hopefully I can get the base off in the next few days, I'm on the road.



Jan 27, 2015 at 05:06 PM
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p.10 #5 · D800 impact damage/cracked frame


Okephoto,
There is one more screw on the side just below the HDMI cover that you also need to remove to remove the base plate.



Jan 27, 2015 at 05:15 PM
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p.10 #6 · D800 impact damage/cracked frame


Thanks Hans


Jan 27, 2015 at 05:19 PM
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p.10 #7 · D800 impact damage/cracked frame


hurry up Okephoto! Nikon is sitting on the edge of their seat


Jan 27, 2015 at 05:23 PM
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p.10 #8 · D800 impact damage/cracked frame


hans98ko wrote:
Hi Mary,
I am not sure which other cameras have a tripod mount that is not molded or directly mounted to the main chassis, but this is definitely the first time I ever saw it. Not only that the base of the D800 is basically hollowed or lack of any metal as can be seen on Armando's last photo.
The rest of your questions can be found after you go through all the posts here.
Regards, Hans


how about "most".

the tripod mounts are structurally built into the base of the cameras. here is an image of a D4s i just took. in addition to the D4s there is the D4, D3 canon 1D3, 1D2, 1Ds 1Ds2 1D4 and a whole lot more. in the case of these how do you thing the get that rather large battery assy in there? then of course there are the optionally grip assys too. these are designed to hold the lenses that do NOT require a lens based mount.

going back further the F4s MB-21 grip assy is mounted to the baseplate tripod mount via a gearbox driven setup which has its own tripod mount built into it base with the batty compartment.

going even further back the rolleiflex's mounted the 3/8" tripod mount on the L shaped back/film access cover.

that covers about 60+ years.





i have more examples.






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Jan 27, 2015 at 05:25 PM
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p.10 #9 · D800 impact damage/cracked frame


We now have seen photographs of three different cameras with breaks in their metal chassis In EXACTLY the same position.

This cannot be a co-incidence and points to a basic design flaw or a flaw in the castings of that range of cameras.

All of those affected need to report what has happened to Nikon and ask for either a full repair or a replacement because their cameras have been rendered both useless and worthless by this structural failure.

I suggest that anyone else who has a D800 needs to check their cameras carefully for the same damage.

That plate may have been changed on the D810, but D810 owners might want to check their cameras too.

It might also be a good idea for anyone who belongs to other Internet forums, to start threads on this subject so that we can discover just how wide-spread this issue actually is because the more examples that come to light, the greater the chance of persuading Nikon to offer a recall for the D800 range.



Jan 27, 2015 at 05:31 PM
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p.10 #10 · D800 impact damage/cracked frame


In my camera I had to remove 8 screws, which I have circled in this schematic

http://armando-m.smugmug.com/photos/i-CMcSvD5/0/O/i-CMcSvD5.jpg



Jan 27, 2015 at 05:32 PM
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p.10 #11 · D800 impact damage/cracked frame


Would anyone like to see how the D810 looks in the exact same spot?

Care to guess ?



Jan 27, 2015 at 05:38 PM
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p.10 #12 · D800 impact damage/cracked frame


@sjms
That is why I said I was totally shock when I first saw how flimsy the tripod mount on the D800 is, it is just like a 4 long legged giraffe attached inverted to the bottom of the camera.



Jan 27, 2015 at 05:49 PM
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armando_m wrote:
Would anyone like to see how the D810 looks in the exact same spot?

Care to guess ?


I am interested to find out too.



Jan 27, 2015 at 05:52 PM
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armando_m wrote:
Hans,

Thanks for the comments, regarding focus problems , I did not mention it, but it's all fine, the blurr I was seeing is due to the camera moving on the tripod

Mary, thanks for starting this thread hope you do not mind my "Me too" content

okephoto, yes, remove the rubber around the tripod mount, there are 4 screws, size 0 , 4 more screws around the battery door, size 00, watch the position of these 4 screws, 2 have threads for plastic -more coarse -, and the other 2 for metal. Use good JIS screwdrivers , regular phillips may
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Removing the screws and opening up the camera will probably void your warranty!



Jan 27, 2015 at 05:57 PM
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p.10 #15 · D800 impact damage/cracked frame


armando_m wrote:
Would anyone like to see how the D810 looks in the exact same spot?

Care to guess ?


1.) Yes

2.) Exactly the same ?




Jan 27, 2015 at 06:06 PM
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p.10 #16 · D800 impact damage/cracked frame


DaveOls wrote:
Removing the screws and opening up the camera will probably void your warranty!


Yes and no.
Yes, if it is within warranty period. No, if is already out of warranty for most anyway. The next thing is they are doing it to prove that Nikon is hiding a hidden defect that they should have issued a recall for.
Remembered that they keep using the clause "impact damage".

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Jan 27, 2015 at 06:12 PM
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p.10 #17 · D800 impact damage/cracked frame


AnnJS wrote:
We now have seen photographs of three different cameras with breaks in their metal chassis In EXACTLY the same position.

This cannot be a co-incidence and points to a basic design flaw or a flaw in the castings of that range of cameras.

All of those affected need to report what has happened to Nikon and ask for either a full repair or a replacement because their cameras have been rendered both useless and worthless by this structural failure.

I suggest that anyone else who has a D800 needs to check their cameras carefully for the same damage.

That plate
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According to the link provided back to Thom Hogan's website, he stated that several people had contacted him about these types of failures, and the number was growing.

http://www.bythom.com/photographic-travel/africa/botswana-2013-workshop-blog/the-measure-of-a-safari.html

It might be a good idea to try to contact Thom to see how many cases he is aware of.



Jan 27, 2015 at 06:13 PM
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p.10 #18 · D800 impact damage/cracked frame


hans98ko wrote:
@sjms
That is why I said I was totally shock when I first saw how flimsy the tripod mount on the D800 is, it is just like a 4 long legged giraffe attached inverted to the bottom of the camera.


what are you talking about?. all of these are relatively the same in design and construction spanning 60+years, multiple brands and types. none are in any way connected to the inner camera structure just the base.



Jan 27, 2015 at 06:32 PM
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p.10 #19 · D800 impact damage/cracked frame


Does anyone know a website that has several of these service manual images, like the ones posted here, posted for the D800/e ?


Jan 27, 2015 at 06:40 PM
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p.10 #20 · D800 impact damage/cracked frame


@sjms
I can. assure you that it is not all for the past 60 years.
I have a few cameras that have the tripod mount molded or attached to the main chassis. A few that comes to mind is the Nikonmat EL, Nikon F3 and my Rollei SL35ME all mounted to a solid chassis. The base plate is just a plate with a simple hole for the tripod mount. Just did a simple check from one of my cabinet.



Jan 27, 2015 at 06:46 PM
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