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p.7 #1 · FotoDiox "Tough E Mount"


my question is whether there is a way to modify this in some way to shorten the registration distance after i replace my sensor cover glass with something thinner?

i should probably just take apart my mount and have a look...




Nov 24, 2014 at 01:54 AM
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p.7 #2 · FotoDiox "Tough E Mount"


I replaced the mount on the A7 and the rotational play is now gone. I had rotational play on the original mount on both native lenses as well as the fd-nex adaptor. The tough e-mount has eliminated said play for both. So I'm pretty chuffed.


Nov 24, 2014 at 06:29 AM
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p.7 #3 · FotoDiox "Tough E Mount"


I purchased the tough mount, planning to keep it as an replacement. Should the OEM mount break I reasoned, I'd have a spare in hand. No need to send the camera off.

I added an extended warranty with accident protection (from Amazon) when I purchased my a7r. Would replacing the OEM mount void the warranty?

As I've had no mount (or any other) problems in 12 months of daily use, I decided keeping a spare mount on hand was foolish, and returned the tough mount. If I have any problems with my camera over the next 3 years, I'll let the repair facility worry about the fix.



Nov 24, 2014 at 08:58 AM
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p.7 #4 · FotoDiox "Tough E Mount"


grahamb3 wrote:
I purchased the tough mount, planning to keep it as an replacement. Should the OEM mount break I reasoned, I'd have a spare in hand. No need to send the camera off.

I added an extended warranty with accident protection (from Amazon) when I purchased my a7r. Would replacing the OEM mount void the warranty?

As I've had no mount (or any other) problems in 12 months of daily use, I decided keeping a spare mount on hand was foolish, and returned the tough mount. If I have any problems with my camera over the next 3 years, I'll let the repair
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I just kept the old mounts so I could swap them back if I ever need to send one of the cameras in for service.



Nov 24, 2014 at 09:57 AM
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p.7 #5 · FotoDiox "Tough E Mount"


Just saw on another forum where a guy stripped out one of the four screws. that pretty much makes my decision very clear not to get it.


Nov 27, 2014 at 02:04 PM
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p.7 #6 · FotoDiox "Tough E Mount"


Werne1nm wrote:
Just saw on another forum where a guy stripped out one of the four screws. that pretty much makes my decision very clear not to get it.


It's not an issue if you use the proper screwdriver...



Nov 27, 2014 at 04:11 PM
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p.7 #7 · FotoDiox "Tough E Mount"


cameras use JIS screw driver, different from a Phillips.


Nov 27, 2014 at 04:33 PM
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Werne1nm wrote:
Just saw on another forum where a guy stripped out one of the four screws. that pretty much makes my decision very clear not to get it.


There is not a screw in the universe that a man has not found a way to strip.So, yes if you are as inept as this unfortunate 'guy on another forum' I would definitely steer clear of this highly technical operation (which is right up there with changing a light bulb).



Nov 28, 2014 at 11:54 AM
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miguel_13 wrote:
There is not a screw in the universe that a man has not found a way to strip.So, yes if you are as inept as this unfortunate 'guy on another forum' I would definitely steer clear of this highly technical operation (which is right up there with changing a light bulb).


Yes, there are some people who should not attempt any sort of DIY project, no matter how simple...



Nov 28, 2014 at 12:34 PM
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p.7 #10 · FotoDiox "Tough E Mount"


mogul wrote:
cameras use JIS screw driver, different from a Phillips.


I would never attempt to unscrew a Japanese designed camera mount with a Phillips screwdriver.
Perhaps Fotodiox should have included the correct tool or at least inform their customers about it.



Nov 28, 2014 at 01:02 PM
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p.7 #11 · FotoDiox "Tough E Mount"


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I would never attempt to unscrew a Japanese designed camera mount with a Phillips screwdriver.
Perhaps Fotodiox should have included the correct tool or at least inform their customers about it.


I used a set of very high quality JIS screwdrivers and still nearly managed to strip one of the screws, although that one felt like they used red loctite, .



Dec 04, 2014 at 04:44 PM
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p.7 #12 · FotoDiox "Tough E Mount"


Hmmm . . . just got the A7II and the 70-200/4. I wonder if the A7II has the plastic locking mechanism that the A7r has . . .


Dec 17, 2014 at 12:44 PM
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p.7 #13 · FotoDiox "Tough E Mount"


It's reported to have the upgraded mount that the A7s, all metal I think ... not this one on the A7r
http://m1.i.pbase.com/g9/63/551663/2/158458751.WBgh6pwp.jpg



Dec 17, 2014 at 12:57 PM
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p.7 #14 · FotoDiox "Tough E Mount"


From the lensrental website ...

"Higher Build Quality.
The durable magnesium-alloy body features dust and moisture sealing, enabling use in less than ideal conditions. There were many complaints of play in the lens mount on the original a7, but the a7II sees a more robust all-metal mount...."



Dec 17, 2014 at 01:01 PM
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p.7 #15 · FotoDiox "Tough E Mount"


Funny how a lot of users said they had no issue with the original A7/A7R mounts but now that they have upgraded to the A7II they say how much nicer the all metal mount is on the A7II. Go figure. Same thing can be said for the placement of the shutter button I never liked


Dec 18, 2014 at 05:59 AM
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p.7 #16 · FotoDiox "Tough E Mount"


mcbroomf wrote:
From the lensrental website ...

"Higher Build Quality.
The durable magnesium-alloy body features dust and moisture sealing, enabling use in less than ideal conditions. There were many complaints of play in the lens mount on the original a7, but the a7II sees a more robust all-metal mount...."


That's interesting. The statement seems to contradict Roger Cicala's earlier opinion (pg. 2 #'s 8 & 14) expressed in this very thread.



Dec 18, 2014 at 08:56 AM
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mcbroomf wrote:
From the lensrental website ...

"Higher Build Quality.
The durable magnesium-alloy body features dust and moisture sealing, enabling use in less than ideal conditions. There were many complaints of play in the lens mount on the original a7, but the a7II sees a more robust all-metal mount...."


I keep hearing that same "dust and moisture", "weather resistant" speak about the A7II, just like I did for the original A7 and A7R. Those cameras have no (as in zero) internal seals normally found in dust and moisture resistant cameras. Just take a look at the LensRental teardown of thre A7R. You can take a detailed look for yourself:

http://www.lensrentals.com/blog/2014/01/the-a7r-teardown-a-look-inside-sonys-awesome-full-frame-mirrorless-camera

http://www.lensrentals.com/blog/media/2014/01/allpartslabelled-1024x585.jpg

Sony USA website makes no claims about the A7II being dust and moisture resistant:
http://store.sony.com/full-frame-mirrorless-camera-zid27-ILCE7M2/B/cat-27-catid-All-Alpha-a7-Cameras?_t=pfm%3Dcategory

Many of the same "reviewers" who spread false information about the A7/R being weather proof, are at it again:
http://tobinators.com/blog/index.php/2014/04/everything-else/sony-a7r-in-not-weatherproof-shock/




Dec 18, 2014 at 09:50 PM
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p.7 #18 · FotoDiox "Tough E Mount"


pdmphoto wrote:
Sony USA website makes no claims about the A7II being dust and moisture resistant:
http://store.sony.com/full-frame-mirrorless-camera-zid27-ILCE7M2/B/cat-27-catid-All-Alpha-a7-Cameras?_t=pfm%3Dcategory



So what?

All manufacturers specifically limit water damage from warranty claims, even the top "pro" models from Canon and Nikon.

Empirically, Sony's a7 series perform well in inclement conditions, as I suspect the a7II will. Personally, I use rain capes for my camera, and trust in the extended warranty with accidental spill coverage.



Dec 19, 2014 at 12:22 AM
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pdmphoto wrote:
I keep hearing that same "dust and moisture", "weather resistant" speak about the A7II, just like I did for the original A7 and A7R. Those cameras have no (as in zero) internal seals normally found in dust and moisture resistant cameras. Just take a look at the LensRental teardown of thre A7R. You can take a detailed look for yourself:

http://www.lensrentals.com/blog/2014/01/the-a7r-teardown-a-look-inside-sonys-awesome-full-frame-mirrorless-camera

http://www.lensrentals.com/blog/media/2014/01/allpartslabelled-1024x585.jpg

Sony USA website makes no claims about the A7II being dust and moisture resistant:
http://store.sony.com/full-frame-mirrorless-camera-zid27-ILCE7M2/B/cat-27-catid-All-Alpha-a7-Cameras?_t=pfm%3Dcategory

Many of the same "reviewers" who spread false information about the A7/R being weather proof, are at it again:
http://tobinators.com/blog/index.php/2014/04/everything-else/sony-a7r-in-not-weatherproof-shock/



I think that's the confusion right? Sony say they are "environmentally sealed" yet as Roger shows there are no actual seals. The last link in fact describes an experience where the guy damaged his camera getting it wet .. ie he seems to be doing the opposite than spreading false info

EDIT .. I guess you're commenting on the 4 links within his blog showing reviews that list the camera as"weather sealed/proof"

Edited on Dec 19, 2014 at 09:25 AM · View previous versions



Dec 19, 2014 at 05:22 AM
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pdmphoto wrote:
.......
Sony USA website makes no claims about the A7II being dust and moisture resistant:
http://store.sony.com/full-frame-mirrorless-camera-zid27-ILCE7M2/B/cat-27-catid-All-Alpha-a7-Cameras?_t=pfm%3Dcategory
.....


This is correct. Sony don't list these claims in their specs. They are in press releases or overviews. For example;

A7r in the overview tab

"Dust and moisture resistance:
Carefree shooting in tough environments is yours thanks to comprehensive dust and moisture resistance measures that enhance reliability by helping to prevent water and dust from entering the body. These measures include sealing around the buttons and dials, as well as a protective double-layered structure that tightly interlocks panels and components."
http://store.sony.com/a7r-full-frame-mirrorless-camera-zid27-ILCE7R/B/cat-27-catid-All-Alpha-a7-Cameras?_t=pfm%3Dcategory

A7II Press release (this is EU not US)

"Reliability that professionals can appreciate:
Sturdy magnesium alloy construction of the top, front cover, and internal structures ensures that the camera is both durable and light. The robust mounting structure easily handles large telephoto lenses, heavy video lenses, and many others.

Main buttons and dials are also sealed to help keep out moisture and dust, and an interlocking double layered construction of media and port covers as well as body seams ensures greater moisture and dust resistance. Overall, the camera is designed to be used by photographers in any number of situations without having to worry about the safety of their cameras."
http://presscentre.sony.eu/pressreleases/sony-introduces-the-a7-ii-the-world-s-first-full-frame-camera-with-optical-5-axis-image-stabilization-1086871

As a result (presumably) dpreview pick this up and describe all of the A7 bodies as environmentally sealed (perhaps Sony use the same description of the A7s and A7 I've not verified it)

http://www.dpreview.com/products/compare/side-by-side?products=sony_dscrx1r&products=sony_a7s&products=sony_a7r&products=sony_a7&products=nikon_d610&products=canon_eos6d&products=sony_slta99&products=nikon_d750&products=sony_a7_ii&products=canon_eos5dmkiii&products=nikon_d810&products=nikon_df







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