#1 is my favorite, great timing on that glacier, and the perfect shutter speed. #3 would be my next favorite. The only one I didn't care for was #5, which has a great composition, but the saturation seems a bit too high in it.
So how much did this trip set you back? I would say whatever the cost it was worth it from what I have seen so far from your shots, but it would be interesting to know just how much a trip like this would cost.
Jim
Hey Jim,
Yeah, I kind of agree on the saturation. It looks a bit over-saturated on my monitor at work. At home it looked less saturated. But it looks very saturated on my iPhone. Go figure. But I think I made leaves too saturated a bit. I had a feeling it may look over-saturated, and I sure should listen to my feeling
The trip I went to was an organized photography workshop in Patagonia. I'm not going to mention exactly which photographer organized it but it was all set (buses, hotels, flights etc.) so I was quite happy about it. I've never been to South America, and never in Patagonia before. I would go by myself now though, knowing locations of all the places you've seen so far on my shots. I paid 5K (without, yes, without airfare) so I think the total amount I spent was 7.5K (with everything including money I spent on food there). But I can tell you, I could go there for a half of this price easily (or even less) and achieve the same thing. I could rent a car there and just drive whenever I want to, and at time I choose to. Organized workshops are not for me I guess. I was frustrated with some photographers because they didn't wake up on time, or decided not to go, or wanted to stay longer at some "shot to death" location. They were frequently walking into your frame/composition totally careless about others. Or, if we went to some spot in the middle of the night (to get there early in the morning) some people with head-laps walked and shined them into your exposing cameras etc. Horror stories (for photographers). So you have to deal with stuff like this and I guess I was loosing my patience. Don't get me wrong, there were only a few of these trouble makers.
In any case, hotels in El Calafate or other places I was staying in were around $80 (some just $55) a night. So this will set you back only a $1000 for two weeks. And, they all include breakfasts. Lunch costs around $20. If you want to go fancy it'll cost maybe $40. So in two weeks you should spend no more than $500. Car rental I think was (when I asked) $80 a day. Plus air tickets. I paid $2K from LAX->Buenos Aires->El Calafate.
If you add these expenses up it'll be around 4K. Bare in mind this is just a raw estimation. Your air ticket can be cheaper, maybe only $1500. A lot of people used Delta miles and they actually got there for free. You don't have to eat steaks in Argentina like I did. So it'll be cheaper
I hope this helps.
Greg
Love them all - 4 is my favorite because the foreground really gives me the feeling that I'm there off the beaten path. 3 and 2 are also great vistas. Love the colors in 3! However, I do agree that the last pic is too heavy on color saturation. I hope more pics are coming!
Dave
Greg,
An amazingly gorgeous set of world-class images!
Of particular interest to me is the first shot. I've photographed about a dozen calvings of tidewater glaciers in Alaska, and know how difficult it is to transmit the feeling of power and drama in a single shot. But you managed to do it here. This is so good that I can almost hear the sounds as the ice plunges into deep water. Is this glacier calving into the ocean, or a lake of its own making?
Charlie
Terrible !!! Como argentino debo decirte que me recorre la envidia del viaje que hiciste! Excelentes fotos, todas para poner en un cuadro en la pared.
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Stunning! As an Argentine I must say that I envy walking trip you did! Great pictures, all to put in a picture on the wall.
Gregg B. wrote:
Hey Jim,
Yeah, I kind of agree on the saturation. It looks a bit over-saturated on my monitor at work. At home it looked less saturated. But it looks very saturated on my iPhone. Go figure. But I think I made leaves too saturated a bit. I had a feeling it may look over-saturated, and I sure should listen to my feeling
The trip I went to was an organized photography workshop in Patagonia. I'm not going to mention exactly which photographer organized it but it was all set (buses, hotels, flights etc.) so I was quite happy about it. I've never been to South America, and never in Patagonia before. I would go by myself now though, knowing locations of all the places you've seen so far on my shots. I paid 5K (without, yes, without airfare) so I think the total amount I spent was 7.5K (with everything including money I spent on food there). But I can tell you, I could go there for a half of this price easily (or even less) and achieve the same thing. I could rent a car there and just drive whenever I want to, and at time I choose to. Organized workshops are not for me I guess. I was frustrated with some photographers because they didn't wake up on time, or decided not to go, or wanted to stay longer at some "shot to death" location. They were frequently walking into your frame/composition totally careless about others. Or, if we went to some spot in the middle of the night (to get there early in the morning) some people with head-laps walked and shined them into your exposing cameras etc. Horror stories (for photographers). So you have to deal with stuff like this and I guess I was loosing my patience. Don't get me wrong, there were only a few of these trouble makers.
In any case, hotels in El Calafate or other places I was staying in were around $80 (some just $55) a night. So this will set you back only a $1000 for two weeks. And, they all include breakfasts. Lunch costs around $20. If you want to go fancy it'll cost maybe $40. So in two weeks you should spend no more than $500. Car rental I think was (when I asked) $80 a day. Plus air tickets. I paid $2K from LAX->Buenos Aires->El Calafate.
If you add these expenses up it'll be around 4K. Bare in mind this is just a raw estimation. Your air ticket can be cheaper, maybe only $1500. A lot of people used Delta miles and they actually got there for free. You don't have to eat steaks in Argentina like I did. So it'll be cheaper
I hope this helps.
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Thanks Greg, that gives a great idea. I can totally understand your frustration with being in a group environment, I think that would drive me a bit crazy. Though I think if I were to go down there for the first time, I would go in a group also. Once you have been there, like you said, then one can just go down by themselves once they have the lay of the land.
Did enough people speak English to make it easy to get around, or is dusting off your Spanish language skills a good idea?
It's too bad airfare is so much to get down there... but anyway, thanks for that info, that sure helps.
JimFox wrote:
Thanks Greg, that gives a great idea. I can totally understand your frustration with being in a group environment, I think that would drive me a bit crazy. Though I think if I were to go down there for the first time, I would go in a group also. Once you have been there, like you said, then one can just go down by themselves once they have the lay of the land.
Did enough people speak English to make it easy to get around, or is dusting off your Spanish language skills a good idea?
It's too bad airfare is so much to get down there... but anyway, thanks for that info, that sure helps.
In hotels and restaurants they speak english good enough so you don't need to know Spanish. Also in Argentina they don't speak Spanish but more Portuguese I think. The language differs enough for me to noticed that. But, I'm sure that if you speak Spanish you will understand them better than me (no Spanish at all). Menus in restaurants are also in English so ordering food is not a problem. People are nice and kind. I didn't see anyone mean or disrespectful in any way. The ticket is expensive because you have to change place three times and it's a long flight.
My flight was through Atlanta so that's around 5 hours from LAX. Then, to Buenos Aires I think it was close to 12 hours. And then, from BA to El Calafate another 3 or 3.5 hours. But with time between flights the whole thing will be around 25 hours. When I landed in El Calafate I was exhausted.
