Initial wow factor aside, I agree with what Scott Kroeker said. The hot white lava at the bottom has the characteristic blue hue of the clipping of a modern digital camera. I'd heat that back up to white hot.
kurt765 wrote:
Initial wow factor aside, I agree with what Scott Kroeker said. The hot white lava at the bottom has the characteristic blue hue of the clipping of a modern digital camera. I'd heat that back up to white hot.
Here is a version with slightly hotter highlights (hope it looks better there). Going off of the Raw file the upper highlights had a slight yellow tint and were 187 levels, bright, but not pure white.
kurt765 wrote:
Pixel for pixel it looks like you accidentally uploaded the same version as the first post.
Interesting that the super bright hot in the raw crop has that hue to it too.
Make no mistake though, this image is incredible. Perfectly composed, Mark.
It is a different file, just maybe too subtle of an adjustment. I just hesitate at going all the way to clipping since the original file looks pretty much the same as this.
I did carefully check the Blue channel in Raw as well as the Red and Green and strangely, there is no clipping on any of them in the higher highlights according to the curve and histogram data? Weird. Just some Red clipping in some redish areas. Although, yes the hot, almost whitish areas are rendered (as you can see here) with lack of detail. I just dont know that I can improve the look of the highlights. I appreciate the feedback though. That illusive perfection is always running away from me!!!
For fun, because it probably doesn't help much, here is a 100% crop of the lower area, in Raw. According to ACR nothing is clipping except the Red channel in some Red areas, yet the upper highlights obviously lack some detail and appear very slightly yellow. I think maybe the camera is simply overwhelmed with what it is trying to shoot and it may just be a sensor rendering issue. Next time I'll try with the D800E or better...
Mark, saying it's impressive is too weak of the word!
But if you continue this sort of experiments, you need some safety gear, perhaps, clothing designed for foundry workers.
alatoo60 wrote:
Mark, saying it's impressive is too weak of the word!
But if you continue this sort of experiments, you need some safety gear, perhaps, clothing designed for foundry workers.
Sasha.
Thank you very much Sasha! Yes, it is too hot and too expensive to fix the camera gear. If I end up moving there I will have to figure out something.
Garrick L wrote:
WOW, awesome capture here Mark, it was really nice of those clouds to cooperate too Well done man!
Thank you very much. Someone on my Facebook page asked me how that happened. This was my response:
"Thank you Nancy. The clouds were there. That was the main thing in my mind actually. Then in my thinking I had to quickly find an angle that the lava could be in there too. The lava was pouring all over the place so it did not take too long to find some pouring at just the right angle. So, it was not a lava shot that so happened to have the clouds in the background. The approach was the direct opposite."
Everyone has pretty much said it already; what an awesome image! Congrats for the skill and having "brass-ones" also for getting in there, and out safely...
Everyone has pretty much said it already; what an awesome image! Congrats for the skill and having "brass-ones" also for getting in there, and out safely...
Regards,
Edd
Thank you! As soon as it starts flowing again, I hope to jam (fly) out there again. Something very amazing about Hawaii!
Mark Metternich wrote:
It is a different file, just maybe too subtle of an adjustment. I just hesitate at going all the way to clipping since the original file looks pretty much the same as this.
I did carefully check the Blue channel in Raw as well as the Red and Green and strangely, there is no clipping on any of them in the higher highlights according to the curve and histogram data? Weird. Just some Red clipping in some redish areas. Although, yes the hot, almost whitish areas are rendered (as you can see here) with lack of detail. I just dont know that I can improve the look of the highlights. I appreciate the feedback though. That illusive perfection is always running away from me!!!
For fun, because it probably doesn't help much, here is a 100% crop of the lower area, in Raw. According to ACR nothing is clipping except the Red channel in some Red areas, yet the upper highlights obviously lack some detail and appear very slightly yellow. I think maybe the camera is simply overwhelmed with what it is trying to shoot and it may just be a sensor rendering issue. Next time I'll try with the D800E or better......Show more →
First of all, the usual superlatives. You never disappoint, Mark.
I'm not experienced enough of a photographer to understand the situation you describe. I'm hoping others may know why histograms will show unclipped exposures that obviously have clipping. I'm supposing it is the limitations in range of the histogram. How does one compensate? Is it simply that clipping is unavoidable for some subjects -- the sun, lava?
Another question, Mark, about this shoot. Oddly enough, being a Seattleite and someone who has traveled extensively, I've never been to Hawaii. This is the context of the question. Is this area completely accessible? It seems there are enough safety issues that maybe it is not.
