Another recurring theme in this debate is the posting of photos taken in good light. This misses the point, I think. Try taking high ISO photos in a dark nightclub, for example, and you'll see where the complaints come from. The 7D is a great camera, I particularly liked it for shooting airshows. However, images shot in a dim chapel I found less than impressive. Horses for courses and all that jazz.
Yes absolutely horses for courses. If you plan to do a lot of low light work at high ISO you really shouldn't be considering any crop sensor camera at all so I feel it is unfair the 7D is singled out for criticism.
Low light high ISO is really the realm of full frame cameras.
mgkaplan wrote:
I used the 7D through Dec. 2012. Then I purchased a 6D. "High ISO - Low Light" photography is one of my common shooting environments. When I saw what the 6D could do, I immediately disposed of my 7D, my 5DMKII and my 60D. I then purchased a 5DIII. With the 6D and the 5dMKIII, I am in 'High ISO heaven.'
Yes the 7D has its strong points, but for those of us who thrive on High ISO, it does not hold a candle (no pun intended) the 6D or 5D3.
Just out of curiosity, why would you keep the 6D after you got the 5DIII? Unless you are a pro and need a backp body, it seems a bit redundant.
Kmccarthy wrote:
Just out of curiosity, why would you keep the 6D after you got the 5DIII? Unless you are a pro and need a backp body, it seems a bit redundant.
I've not used a 6D but by all accounts it edges the (otherwise excellent) 5D3 at very high ISO which is what the poster was after, plus it's smaller and lighter.
misterOphoto wrote:
Another recurring theme in this debate is the posting of photos taken in good light. This misses the point, I think. Try taking high ISO photos in a dark nightclub, for example, and you'll see where the complaints come from. The 7D is a great camera, I particularly liked it for shooting airshows. However, images shot in a dim chapel I found less than impressive. Horses for courses and all that jazz.
Bit hard to shoot birds in the dark; can't find them for a start.
Pixel Perfect wrote:
Bit hard to shoot birds in the dark; can't find them for a start.
Excellent point; and it illuminates a key issue: a camera that is good or even excellent at certain tasks may not be so for other tasks. As stated, it's a matter of different horses for different courses, using the right tool for the job, etc.
So I confess, but I do not repent! I am a 7D defender!
BrianO wrote: Excellent point; and it illuminates a key issue: a camera that is good or even excellent at certain tasks may not be so for other tasks. As stated, it's a matter of different horses for different courses, using the right tool for the job, etc.
So I confess, but I do not repent! I am a 7D defender!
Who cares if the 7D is not great in nightclubs, wouldn't even take my 1D X into one. As you say the right tool for the job.
I just wish I could merge two of my cameras, 7D get less keepers than 1DIII but 7D has resolution. 1DIII almost 100% will track and focus on birdlife where 7D I find I have to delete quite a few. choosing between the two cameras can be a real pain at times
aladyforty wrote:
I just wish I could merge two of my cameras, 7D get less keepers than 1DIII but 7D has resolution. 1DIII almost 100% will track and focus on birdlife where 7D I find I have to delete quite a few. choosing between the two cameras can be a real pain at times
I did exactly this about two years ago when I sold my 7D and 1DIII to help pay for a new 1DIV.
jcolwell wrote:
I did exactly this about two years ago when I sold my 7D and 1DIII to help pay for a new 1DIV.
I d love to do that although still unsure it would have the reach and in any case would not sell 7D because hubby wants a second one for his video projects.
so if anyone can give me some tips on improving my keepers with the 7D, Id be happy. I have looked at heaps of photos of birds taken with 1D4 and the good ones are all with more than a 400mm lens, I don't want to carry any more weight than the 100-400L, so a 1.6 crop sensor to ME is the best solution, Love my 1DIII but many times if I take it out and capture a bird at any more than a few metres away, I end up disappointed with the lack of resolution. 7D always plenty to play with
I non-anti-repent because I always claimed and still claim that the 7D is the best cam for distant birds (and I say this still even having sold it to fund a 5D3).
Imagemaster wrote:
A 7D2 with less noise and 5D3 AF is a far better idea.
Yes, the latter, 5D3 AF, would be a dream, and for me either 1.3 or 1.6 crop as long as pixel density (translate: reach) is maintained or increased. I know IQ will be fine.