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p.26 #1 · Touit touit touit.... touit :)


Helena, Sony has pushed back the release of the new 'NEX 7', for 'further development', including better noise control at mid ISOs. Due October this year; no AA filter; new name: and 'new features'. Should be Touit-friendly..




May 23, 2013 at 06:17 PM
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p.26 #2 · Touit touit touit.... touit :)


Philip, you seem to know a lot about "what happened to NEX7N"? May I ask what is your source?


May 23, 2013 at 11:22 PM
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p.26 #3 · Touit touit touit.... touit :)


Tested on nex f3:
Touit 12mm Test @ ephotozine

Carl Zeiss Touit Distagon T* 12mm f/2.8 Pros
Excellent sharpness
Solid build
Low distortion (2.53% barrel distortion), falloff and CA
Very resistant to flare

Carl Zeiss Touit Distagon T* 12mm f/2.8 Cons
Slow AF



May 25, 2013 at 01:40 PM
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p.26 #4 · Touit touit touit.... touit :)


serhan_ wrote:
Tested on nex f3:
Touit 12mm Test @ ephotozine

The charts looked good, but did anyone feel the images didn't do justice to the lens?



May 25, 2013 at 07:17 PM
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p.26 #5 · Touit touit touit.... touit :)


Philippe, I keep a close watch on the sony alpha rumours website, most days in fact, and often relay some back to readers here. Andrea the guy who runs the site, posts official Sony material as well, such as corporate presentations and lens design seminars, often interesting to me, so you can cross-check to some degree. Here is an entry on the rumour site:

'I am getting more and more feedback about the NEX-7 successor.

1) First of all many sources confirmed that this is the only interchangeable camera to come this year! As you know the new Sony CEO imposed a radical change in the roadmap...But it seems that also the NEX-7 successor went through some changes. First of all the small NEX-7n udpate expected to come in Spring had been delayed.

2) A trusted source told me that Sony decided to go change some more “things” on the next NEX-7 successor. First of all it will not be named “NEX-7n” anymore. It will have a new name...A new source told me that this will be Sony’s first camera not having the Anti Aliasing filter.'

http://www.sonyalpharumors.com/sr4-new-nex-7-successor-to-ship-in-autumn-and-will-not-be-named-nex-7n/

So, better performance, more features, new name, perhaps no AA - generally indicates more than a mere warm over, in Sony land. Makes sense with the new emphasis on higher end cameras for them.



May 25, 2013 at 10:27 PM
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p.26 #6 · Touit touit touit.... touit :)


Thanks, Philip! I, too follow SAR. But obviously not as carefully as you do, because the "mid-ISO performance increase" had escaped me. All I had in mind was the third-stop DR increase and other goodies promised previously. As for the lack of AA, I'll believe it when I see it. I am also not as sure as some others on this site that it is the magic wand that they think. But we shall see. In any case, I would trade all of this for good corner performance with RF wides. Because I am going to get a Touit 12, but that doesn't mean I wouldn't enjoy using my Leica Elmar 24 without CornerFix.


May 26, 2013 at 12:22 AM
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p.26 #7 · Touit touit touit.... touit :)


Been shooting with the 32mm on NEX-7 quite a bit. I love the lens stopped down to f/3.5 or f/4 particularly. I really like the close focusing distance with all the flowers blooming.

http://www.pbase.com/rcicala/image/150443401/large.jpg


100% center crop


http://www.pbase.com/rcicala/image/150443408.jpg


Edited on May 27, 2013 at 02:34 PM · View previous versions



May 27, 2013 at 02:27 PM
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p.26 #8 · Touit touit touit.... touit :)


Another

http://www.pbase.com/rcicala/image/150443405/large.jpg


100% ctr crop

http://www.pbase.com/rcicala/image/150443409.jpg


Not macro magnification, but close enough for a lot of what I usually do.

Edited on May 27, 2013 at 02:58 PM · View previous versions



May 27, 2013 at 02:28 PM
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p.26 #9 · Touit touit touit.... touit :)


Lovely stuff, Roger! Can you tell me if your last pic is a crop, or simply a reflection of how close the Touit can get?


May 27, 2013 at 02:34 PM
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p.26 #10 · Touit touit touit.... touit :)


philber wrote:
Lovely stuff, Roger! Can you tell me if your last pic is a crop, or simply a reflection of how close the Touit can get?


The lower image is a 100% crop from the center of the upper - but I could have framed in about 1/3 closer than what I did. I was a little over 2 feet away, MFD is about 15".



May 27, 2013 at 02:57 PM
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p.26 #11 · Touit touit touit.... touit :)


Thank you for sharing these photos, Roger. The last one in particular is very revealing of the drawing style of the 32mm.


May 28, 2013 at 02:59 AM
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p.26 #12 · Touit touit touit.... touit :)


So far, I see very good sharpness and 3D, but not a lot of very fine detail. Sort of like a CZ 35-70. I hope that it is not the case, though I may well be in the minority in thinking that.


May 28, 2013 at 03:06 AM
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p.26 #13 · Touit touit touit.... touit :)


Roger how does the Sony E 35/1.8 do against the touit?


May 28, 2013 at 01:21 PM
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p.26 #14 · Touit touit touit.... touit :)


ken.vs.ryu wrote:
Roger how does the Sony E 35/1.8 do against the touit?



I really liked the Zeiss better at f/2.5 and smaller apertures, but wide open I thought they were pretty close. I tend to grab a full-frame SLR when I'm wanting to shoot at wide apertures, so on the NEX I preferred the Touit.

But that's a pretty big price difference - if I was going to shoot it mostly at f/1.8 I think I'd save the money and grab the Sony.



May 28, 2013 at 03:42 PM
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p.26 #15 · Touit touit touit.... touit :)


RCicala wrote:
I really liked the Zeiss better at f/2.5 and smaller apertures, but wide open I thought they were pretty close.


That's surprising, because Lloyd did extensive testing of both Touits and then compared the 32 to the Sony 35/1.8 and said that the Touit 32 showed significantly more contrast than the Sony 35/1.8 wide open. So much more so that he said it was noticeable just looking through the EVF.

Edit: Just took another look at Lloyd's post comparing these two lenses. His posted images clearly show that the Touit has a strong advantage in the center 1/3 of the image wide open through at least F4. He said differences in field curvature make it difficult to compare the two lenses in the corners at large apertures.



May 28, 2013 at 04:23 PM
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p.26 #16 · Touit touit touit.... touit :)


Lloyd has certainly done a lot more testing and shooting with the Touits than I have. I definitely defer to him here.

I've only got one copy of the Touit, too, and I'm definitely seeing mine pop quite a bit more once I've stopped it down a bit. Might be mine is not quite as good as his wide open.

One thing I would add since reading Lloyd's article: it seems all his direct comparisons are on indoor test targets at a given range while I shot it almost exclusively outdoors and either very close up or near infinity. Behavior of the lens may well vary at different distances, especially since the Touit has floating elements and I don't think the Sony does.

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May 28, 2013 at 04:46 PM
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p.26 #17 · Touit touit touit.... touit :)


Kinda like way it draws, not exactly like C/Y, but at least closer than most. Tiny bit like ZAs for Alpha mount.

I thought Roger just test lenses.



May 28, 2013 at 05:01 PM
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p.26 #18 · Touit touit touit.... touit :)


Mescalamba wrote:
I thought Roger just test lenses.


This time of year all I really get to do is repair them.



May 28, 2013 at 08:19 PM
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p.26 #19 · Touit touit touit.... touit :)


Yodobashi shooting report, Touit 12mm and 32mm on Fuji X-E1 and Nex 5N.
http://photo.yodobashi.com/gear/carlzeiss/touit/index_e.html



May 29, 2013 at 01:40 PM
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p.26 #20 · Touit touit touit.... touit :)


kururu wrote:
Yodobashi shooting report, Touit 12mm and 32mm on Fuji X-E1 and Nex 5N.
http://photo.yodobashi.com/gear/carlzeiss/touit/index_e.html


Cannot be more Zeissy than that. Very impressive.



May 29, 2013 at 01:49 PM
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