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 p.8 #8 · Being asked to shoot a wedding when you aren't a wedding photographer | |
Daboyle wrote:
That's like you. You're the only one who thinks you have been decent, and humble, and gracious, and come across as non defensive or confrontational. Yet everyone else seems to think differently. You responded with the message on the very bottom of this post to someone who thought you came across as a little prideful and that in itself shows the issue.
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Hi Ballistics,
I do think you've been spoken to rather harshly in response to your original post and the actual content of your post seems to have been misrepresented too. Well done for staying as diplomatic as you have.
You have to have the last word, you can't accept that maybe you possibly came off as harsh, and you need to prove yourself in the right.
I can accept that, which is why I asked for posts where I am egotistical/arrogant in an unprovoked setting. And what's with this last word nonsense? It's a discussion forum with dozens of people talking to me both in a positive and negative light. If you don't want me to respond to you, don't respond to me. It's that easy. I didn't respond to your last post, but you posted to me again with another lecture. If you say something to me, I'm going to say something to you.
Just like if I say something to you, you'll say something to me. Leave the last word crap for your kids.
Because not once have you said, you know what, I apologize for anything that came off as arrogant and perhaps I didn't word things well.
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Ballistics wrote:If anyone found me disrespectful, truly wasn't my intention. Seriously.
Instead, you have kicked and screamed the whole way, feeling the need to have the last word, and trying to prove professionals in the industry wrong when they have given you their advice, for WHICH YOU ASKED FOR, on a public forum. And no one in the real world likes to deal with a person like that.
Prove professionals in the industry wrong about what? Where did I argue with advice about the industry?
And instead of saying hey thanks to littleguy for pointing you to the FAQ's as they really helped answer some questions you had, you say "I read them, good reads'. While your response doesn't say anything arrogant, it comes across as such, because someone took the time to point you in the right direction and you shrugged it off, like yeah, whatever, cool. That same response would come across jerkish in face to face conversation as well if you asked for advice. Sometimes it's not what you say, but how you say it.
Oh, you mean like this? pg 6 post #9 thanking Little guy for the links.
Ballistics wrote:Thank you for the links.
The thing is, most of the people I'm arguing with are stuck in the mob mentality and refuse to believe that there are 2 sides to the coin.
There's a strong difference between being defensive and just flat out defending yourself, There's also a difference between carrying out a disagreement on a foundation of facts, and just being defiant to have the last word. If you believe the latter of both after the first couple of pages then there's nothing else to say to each other.
Call me defensive, tell me I just want the last word, I don't mind. The fact is, if anyone posts to me, positive or negative, I'm going to reply in context to that discussion.
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If you miss a certain shot for example, you're bound to hear about it later after the wedding.