The Canon 6D has a very bad weather sealing. I went to shoot some waterfalls and there was little surounding water. Compared to little rain.
I tough not to worry to much because as I said it was NO HEAVY rain, just very little drops. I exposed the camera for about 10 minutes in this environment and the board stopt. Resulting is 500euro of repair cost.
I wanna make everybody aware of this! Be carefull! The weathersealing is not from what I expected from a camera in this range!
I have experience opposite to the member above. Used my 6d in light & heavy rain recently in New Zealand and 1 month ago got a huge wave while seascaping by the ocean's rocks....I got completely wet and so was the 6d and the 16-35 f/4 L while continuous shooting. I don't recommend to try but the combo did not experience any sort of issue.
Imo falling from height can be more dangerous than some water
The Canon 6D has a very bad weather sealing. I went to shoot some waterfalls and there was little surounding water. Compared to little rain.
I tough not to worry to much because as I said it was NO HEAVY rain, just very little drops. I exposed the camera for about 10 minutes in this environment and the board stopt. Resulting is 500euro of repair cost.
I wanna make everybody aware of this! Be carefull! The weathersealing is not from what I expected from a camera in this range!
Glad to see. I was photographing my infant son yesterday while he was getting a bath and he splashed some water droplets on the lens (16-35mm f/4L IS). Nothing happened, so that's good to know going forward I don't have to worry too much. I still don't see myself shooting in full rain though. I don't want to get sick any more than I want the camera to break
ISO1600 wrote:
Canon says it is "DWR", in the same sense that they said the 5DII and the 5DIII are. I haven't seen any hard numbers.
From everything i've read about 5DII's being killed by the slightest condensation (in some cases), I'll be careful with my 6D in bad weather.... but I'm not going to lose sleep over it.
I have the 6D, but haven't had problems with it yet. On the other hand, both my 5D2 and 5D3 had to be repaired for problems due to moisture condensation and corrosion of connectors. Neither had been directly exposed to rain. I often travel in humid environments, so moving in and out of A/C might be a problem. So far no problems with my 7D2 and 1DX (I love these bodies). Canon should spend a bit more effort to harden their electronics to improve corrosion resistance.
I'm not one to worry about a few drops of water, but the back wheel of the 6D has zero protection (worse than 5Dii, 5Dc or 20D), and I don't trust the shutter button either.
Agreed. If it's just a couple drops here and there, I'm not worried about my 6D. Anything more than that, I try my best to keep it out of the rain. I've only felt comfortable with the 1D series bodies when it comes to rain.
dhachey wrote:
I have the 6D, but haven't had problems with it yet. On the other hand, both my 5D2 and 5D3 had to be repaired for problems due to moisture condensation and corrosion of connectors. Neither had been directly exposed to rain. I often travel in humid environments, so moving in and out of A/C might be a problem. So far no problems with my 7D2 and 1DX (I love these bodies). Canon should spend a bit more effort to harden their electronics to improve corrosion resistance.
Given that condensation has to do with gaseous water vapor mixed with in air and then condensing out of it due to a drastic sudden change in temperature, there is nothing Canon can do short of hermetically sealing the body (as in an underwater housing, for example) that will mitigate this. Taking a cold camera into hot humid air -- air which will invariably penetrate the camera regardless of weather sealing -- will cause this humid air to cool below it's dew point inside the camera and shed all its dissolved water all over everything.
Since condensation takes place upon drastic changes in temperature and relative humidity, the most you can minimize this, the better. When shooting in super-humid conditions, I lessen the potential for condensation by leaving the equipment outside whenever feasible. I bring in cards, batteries, etc, and leave the rest out.... Of course, if theft is a concern, then this is a non-starter unless you can lock it up somewhere like the trunk of a car, etc.... Continued exposure to hot humid air should not hurt in and of itself. YMMV. If you're not comfortable with that, then the other solution is to warm the equipment before you take it outside. Put it in the sun in front of a window or something like that.
pKai wrote:
Given that condensation has to do with gaseous water vapor mixed with in air and then condensing out of it due to a drastic sudden change in temperature, there is nothing Canon can do short of hermetically sealing the body (as in an underwater housing, for example) that will mitigate this. Taking a cold camera into hot humid air -- air which will invariably penetrate the camera regardless of weather sealing -- will cause this humid air to cool below it's dew point inside the camera and shed all its dissolved water all over everything.
Since condensation takes place upon drastic changes in temperature and relative humidity, the most you can minimize this, the better. When shooting in super-humid conditions, I lessen the potential for condensation by leaving the equipment outside whenever feasible. I bring in cards, batteries, etc, and leave the rest out.... Of course, if theft is a concern, then this is a non-starter unless you can lock it up somewhere like the trunk of a car, etc.... Continued exposure to hot humid air should not hurt in and of itself. YMMV. If you're not comfortable with that, then the other solution is to warm the equipment before you take it outside. Put it in the sun in front of a window or something like that....Show more →
I'm familiar with everything you mention (>50 yrs experience in science and engineering), but there are things Canon can do to improve weather resistance to corrosion. Some are simple like o-rings to prevent water intrusion, other things take a bit more effort like hydrophobic coatings to prevent shorts between adjacent traces and gold plating connectors. I don't think you need to go to Mil spec designs, but attention to weak spots could improve things quite a bit. I'd be surprised if Canon and Nikon haven't reviewed their repair data to look for patterns of failure, and then tried to harden those areas. How many millions of dSLRs do they have in the field?
Canon has escalating weather resistance according to cost: Rebels with no seals, XXD & XD with modest weather resistance and 1D series with serious weather resistance. Same with lenses: L-series with dust barriers and O-rings and EF-s with nuttin. As I recall the 1D series has redundant gold plated contacts on switches. They will never radically improve weather sealing on the lower range since weather resistance is one of the main reasons to spend $6000 on a 1-series.
Gochugogi wrote:
Canon has escalating weather resistance according to cost: Rebels with no seals, XXD & XD with modest weather resistance and 1D series with serious weather resistance. Same with lenses: L-series with dust barriers and O-rings and EF-s with nuttin. As I recall the 1D series has redundant gold plated contacts on switches. They will never radically improve weather sealing on the lower range since weather resistance is one of the main reasons to spend $6000 on a 1-series.
Absolutely agree. Sometimes you really do get what you pay for.
I think there should be a rating vs just a blanket generalization. I can see why the lower end models have none. But how much sealing does say 7D2, 5D3, 5DS/R and 1 series have and how much do they differ? Price wise, you'd assume that the 7D2 has the least sealing but I don't believe that's the case.
I can see why manufacturers don't though. Opens them up to potential issues repairing water damaged gear from people saying this and that.
M. Best wrote:
I think there should be a rating vs just a blanket generalization. I can see why the lower end models have none. But how much sealing does say 7D2, 5D3, 5DS/R and 1 series have and how much do they differ? Price wise, you'd assume that the 7D2 has the least sealing but I don't believe that's the case.
I can see why manufacturers don't though. Opens them up to potential issues repairing water damaged gear from people saying this and that.
A acquaintance of mine got splashed from a wave of sea water wet but not drenched the 7D died with in 5 minutes , sent to Canon to be serviced and came back with intermittent problems of switching off and freezing he sold it for parts.
Here is a link to a tear down of the 6D. Skip to 1:44 where weather sealing (or the lack thereof) is mentioned. Basically there are no "seals", just "seams".
