ben egbert wrote:
...The distortion in this shot was just perspective distortion. The lens distortion is not troubling me when the lens is leveled.
That's what I was going to say, but I see that you've already said it (i.e. using lens correction vs perspective correction in PP).
Michelle's suggestion to shoot a pano with the camera in vertical (portrait) orientation, and pointing the lens/camera in a horiziontal direction, would be a good compromise solution.
Tried content aware and had a very hard time with the right corner. I also tried clones and cut and paste. Nothing looked right.
Then I tried Rustybugs skew and realized I only needed to work on the left side. I pulled the top out and the bottom in as shown, then cropped. This has a bit of softening from the stretch but does not looked patched.
I just clued into the fact that I drove through American Fork at least six times this summer, going between SLC and Torrey. You live in a very beautiful part of the world.
I just clued into the fact that I drove through American Fork at least six times this summer, going between SLC and Torrey. You live in a very beautiful part of the world.
Cheers, Jim
This is 13 miles from home, but at 8000 feet. They close the road first of Nov. I wanted to get a snow shot while I could still drive there. I came home in 4WD and low and my fingers crossed. The day before would have had snow on the trees, but too foggy to see the mountain.
It is a gorgeous area, but I am still searching for an unobstructed view of the mountain that is also reasonably close to a parking area. I have hiked in summer, but even then have not found what I am looking for. Too many trees or intervening hills..
jcolwell wrote:
That's what I was going to say, but I see that you've already said it (i.e. using lens correction vs perspective correction in PP).
Michelle's suggestion to shoot a pano with the camera in vertical (portrait) orientation, and pointing the lens/camera in a horiziontal direction, would be a good compromise solution.
The real solution would have been easy, just mount the 17TSE. If I had a 14-24 zoom as sharp as this one, I would be using it for sure. This might have been perfect for a Zeiss 21.
But the real issue here is not this shot, but how to use this lens. Its a great landscape lens, and it would be a shame to not learn how to solve this fairly simple problem.
Ben
Glad it's not just me that can't get content aware fill to work for them! I suspect I must be missing something as others seem to find it great and it was one of the reasons I got CS5! One day I hope to work it out.
Lenses are all about compromise I feel - unless you have unlimited wealth and/ or the carrying strength of a mule! ;-)
Sadly I fall into neither category though the fact I have had a few joints playing up on me this year has led me to look at the weight issue. I love the 1dsiii but don't like its weight. Won't go into details here, as not the right place, but am about to jump ship I think...
You mention a 14-24 zoom as good as a 17tse. Well I picked one up s/h today except I think it's even better - didn't think it could be. I know you won't get AF but it might be worth trying with a chipped adapter? It would at least give you more flexibility though no shifting I admit...
Failing all that, have you tried stitching panos as oths have suggested? Can be a good option...
Lizzie
LizzieShepherd wrote:
Ben
Glad it's not just me that can't get content aware fill to work for them! I suspect I must be missing something as others seem to find it great and it was one of the reasons I got CS5! One day I hope to work it out.
Lenses are all about compromise I feel - unless you have unlimited wealth and/ or the carrying strength of a mule! ;-)
Sadly I fall into neither category though the fact I have had a few joints playing up on me this year has led me to look at the weight issue. I love the 1dsiii but don't like its weight. Won't go into details here, as not the right place, but am about to jump ship I think...
You mention a 14-24 zoom as good as a 17tse. Well I picked one up s/h today except I think it's even better - didn't think it could be. I know you won't get AF but it might be worth trying with a chipped adapter? It would at least give you more flexibility though no shifting I admit...
Failing all that, have you tried stitching panos as oths have suggested? Can be a good option...
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Hi Lizzie.
I have gotten content aware to work in some situations, but not this one. I even have an action to apply it after making a selection. The key sequence is hard for me to remember.
My next lens purchase is going to be a Zeiss 15 as soon as funds from the 24TSE sale clear. I can wait for Canon to release a 14-24 competitor. I have the wide side covered now. with 14 and 17 and soon 15. I would probably only take either the 14 or 15 on hikes and leave the other behind.
I can fit the 24-70, plus the 3 primes into my Kata sling bag. The 1DS-mk3 is heavy and getting dated, but until Canon gives is more than 30mpixels, I have no plans to replace it. I do need a lighter tripod however.
I do stitches frequently, but often its the 17 used in shift mode because 17 is not wide enough (hence the 14). I always prefer a single good image to other modes.
I know what you mean, Ben. At 61, I wear contacts, and additional reading glasses for close viewing. I could never manually focus precisely without LiveView and often need glasses even then. Since your vision is sharp closeup, why would live view not work for you in a manual focus way?
ben egbert wrote: My next lens purchase is going to be a Zeiss 15 as soon as funds from the 24TSE sale clear.
Wait. I'm confused. Didn't you just say in multiple posts that your 70-something-year-old-eyes couldn't manually focus WA lenses? But you are buying a Zeiss 15??
ben egbert wrote:
At age 72, and after 30 years of practice, my eyes are never going to learn to manual focus, especially at wa where details are small. Near stuff is not so bad, but anything past 100 feet or so gets pretty difficult.
Ben,
raise the camera to 2 m or higher and the perspective distortion will get much better.
If you’re short, may suggest high-heeled shoes or portable ladder? : -)
“Those that only compose in camera are relegating themselves to remain beginners forever.”
Never realized that HC Bresson, C. Burkette……and many other masters relegated themselves to the beginers level - forever. Pity.
“Wait. I'm confused. Didn't you just say in multiple posts that your 70-something-year-old-eyes couldn't manually focus WA lenses? But you are buying a Zeiss 15?”
Nothing unusual here. Some people’s vision improves immediately when they get the Zeiss or Leica lens : -)
Jeffrey wrote:
I know what you mean, Ben. At 61, I wear contacts, and additional reading glasses for close viewing. I could never manually focus precisely without LiveView and often need glasses even then. Since your vision is sharp closeup, why would live view not work for you in a manual focus way?
Confuses me too. When I say focus, maybe this is because when I get home I can see a difference between shots?
Still, when I look at an lcd and see individual pixels, its hard to use such grainy output to focus.I typically stay at 5x,
mco_970 wrote:
Wait. I'm confused. Didn't you just say in multiple posts that your 70-something-year-old-eyes couldn't manually focus WA lenses? But you are buying a Zeiss 15??
Check this out. When I got my 14, learned a new trick using the focus scale. Works pretty good at 17 and below. Dof is really deep here and thats a blessing and a curse. I makes it hard to focus because almost right looks very good on an LCD.
Lan11 wrote:
Ben,
raise the camera to 2 m or higher and the perspective distortion will get much better.
If you’re short, may suggest high-heeled shoes or portable ladder? : -)
“Those that only compose in camera are relegating themselves to remain beginners forever.”
Never realized that HC Bresson, C. Burkette……and many other masters relegated themselves to the beginers level - forever. Pity.
“Wait. I'm confused. Didn't you just say in multiple posts that your 70-something-year-old-eyes couldn't manually focus WA lenses? But you are buying a Zeiss 15?”
Nothing unusual here. Some people’s vision improves immediately when they get the Zeiss or Leica lens : -)
I used to be 6 feet tall. Now I am about 3 inches shorter with my eyes pointed at a 15 degree down angle and its extremely hard to view even straight ahead let alone down.
Anyway, see my link about using the focus scale. Works pretty good at 17 and below.
RobDickinson wrote:
The solution is use a tilt shift lens or shoot a stitch and overshoot.
Fixing in software later is always going to reduce resolution and sharpness. Make sure you have enough of both before you start.
But please don't give up on this very sharp and very useful zoom which was what this thread was supposed to be about. I am raising a potential problem that has solutions. Yes, I had a TSE in my bag. The scene was not worth changing lenses, this is just an example to illustrate the problem.
One of these is sharper than the other, can you tell which? I was not able to on the LCD when I took them, but I can see it pretty well at 100% on a 26 inch monitor.
Better eyes than mine. You are correct. I need to talk to that optometrist. At this size I can't see the difference even with my glasses removed. Fact is, I had to go back to the originals to check which was which.
