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Archive 2012 · D4/XQD unreliable ?

  
 
wazza
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p.2 #1 · D4/XQD unreliable ?


My XQD in D4 problems are intermittent, but occur often enough to be annoying and worrisome. I have two D4 bodies bought 4 months apart. I have a 16GB which came with the first D4 and two 32GB which I purchased separately and some months apart. I assume the bodies (and the cards) were from different production runs although I am not sure.

The error messages from the D4 give me the impression that the XQD is faulty. Fortunately (so far) I have not lost any files from the cards. Most times, the D4 & XQD continues to work after some sort of "re-boot". The most serious (so far) was when the ERR caused the D4 to hang, and I had to remove the battery for the re-boot. Again, no files were lost.

This issue has happened with both D4 bodies and all three cards. In all instances, the XQD's did not have to be "full", or full-ish. I have not had to use the XQD file recovery software (so far). I do not know what conditions bring on the problem and thus cannot replicate it or I will definitely get Nikon to have a go at fixing it. In fact, Nikon here seems to have never heard from any other D4 owner mentioning the problem.

Thom Hogan's email reply to me was also that he had not come across this problem.

The most convincing reasoning has been this one above:
binary visions wrote:
If I had to guess, I'd say it's a bug in how the D4 is writing data to the card. If it didn't align the data properly with the sectors, for instance, you could end up with data that is completely invisible to any normal reading method, but still exists on the card to be recovered by a tool, and it might explain why the D4 goes nuts when this happens; it has a card whose entire contents appears to be full, but invalid and it may be getting an unhandled exception in the software.

That's total speculation, just throwing
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I cannot believe that two bodies and three cards can all be lemons (what are the odds?).

I can and do carry spare cards (XQD & CF), but I am used to having two slots at my disposal (since the D300S and D3 days), and am reluctant to give one of them up.

D4's and XQD's are not a huge market. I get that. My reason for reaching out was to see if there could be enough others such that it "encourages" Nikon to fix their firmware or whatever, even if they just do it on the quiet. Given the precarious state of XQD, bad publicity from flagship products may well consign XQD to Betamax Hell. But I'd still be out one slot



Nov 13, 2012 at 12:09 AM
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p.2 #2 · D4/XQD unreliable ?


this whole post causes me to pause, should I shoot a CF card instead of the XQD and just go with the one slot?? I have not had any problems so I think I will continue shooting the XQD but it does make me think.


Nov 13, 2012 at 10:01 AM
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p.2 #3 · D4/XQD unreliable ?


Matt OHarver wrote:
I just got a D4 2 weeks ago, and just got my second battery and XQD card and reader. I've not had any issues however I've not filled a card. I hope it's not an issue. I have always loved the dual CF cards.

One thing I do not like is how it doesn't "eject" well out of the camera. I push it in to release it and then have to pull it a little to get it out. It ejects right out of my reader though.

Matt


i don't think you really want it popping out like toast from a toaster



Nov 13, 2012 at 10:18 AM
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p.2 #4 · D4/XQD unreliable ?


i have had no problems so far with my xqd in the d4...or cf either!


Nov 13, 2012 at 11:01 AM
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david debalko wrote:
this whole post causes me to pause, should I shoot a CF card instead of the XQD and just go with the one slot?? I have not had any problems so I think I will continue shooting the XQD but it does make me think.



No need for pause. This would be widely reported by now if XQD cards and the D4 created a systemic problem. You can always set up the camera to use the CF as primary and the XQD as secondary. Gugs issue is probably a card related problem, not a D4 problem.



Nov 13, 2012 at 11:59 AM
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p.2 #6 · D4/XQD unreliable ?


I'd filled my 32gb XQD and started on the 32gb CF without issue.

-Quang



Nov 13, 2012 at 12:19 PM
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