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Archive 2012 · Panasonic LX7 - With Summilux lens!

  
 
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p.3 #1 · Panasonic LX7 - With Summilux lens!


You don't think the ND filter is useful ? I wish more camera's had it. Perhaps you don't live in sunny weather or are okay with always having to stop down in bright sunlight ?

How would one rotate an internal polarizer for that matter ??


Chris S. wrote:
And instead of a near-useless internal ND filter, how about a switch-in, switch out internal polarizing filter? With that, I wouldn't need to carry a clumsy adapter. That feature alone might have made me a buyer, if Panny hadn't loused up the rest of the camera.





Sep 15, 2012 at 12:16 AM
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millsart wrote:
You don't think the ND filter is useful ? I wish more camera's had it. Perhaps you don't live in sunny weather or are okay with always having to stop down in bright sunlight ?

How would one rotate an internal polarizer for that matter ??


First the polarizer, since the response is shorter: Rotating an internal polarizer need not be difficult. In polarized microscopes, for example, it is often done with one or two very simple geared wheels. In a small camera, I could easily imagine it being done with a servo motor. Such motors are inexpensive, and are already used for zooming and focus, so camera engineers should be very comfortable with them.

Now, discussing the ND filter: First, let's remember that a polarizer also cuts light, and can be used as a very effective neutral density filter of about 2 stops, depending on the extinction and orientation of the filter. It's a multitasker. I rarely carry my ND filters in the field, but constantly carry polarizers, and on the rare occasion that I want to cut light, tend to do it with a polarizer. To be sure, a polarizing filter may give you unevenly-dark skies in wide angle, or cut glare on water--but are these traits very often problematic in situations where you want to limit depth of field by using a wide aperture? Likely not.

Second, using the "sunny day f/16 rule," we'd expect that in full sun at ISO 80, the shutter speed at f/2 would be about 1/5,000 sec. The LX5 has a maximum shutter speed of 1/4000. If I'd ever wanted to (and can't remember ever having felt this need), I could have shot the LX3/LX5 in full sun very close to wide open. With the LX7's f/1.4 max aperture, we would theoretically need a fastest shutter speed of just over 1/10,000 second to shoot wide open in full sun; Panny might have increased the shutter speed and obviated the need for the ND filter. Or again, just pop on a polarizing filter, and shoot happily wide open at about 1/2,500 second, well within the camera's capability.

Third--I'd ask why anyone would want to shoot wide open under full sun. Full, unmodified sun is ghastly lighting, the maker of flat, uninteresting landscapes and harshly-shadowed portraits. I usually put my cameras away in the middle of the day. Cloudy-bright days are, of course, pretty nice for portraits, but on those days, the sunlight is about two stops less intense than full sun, and well within the range of the camera without ND filters. Or on a sunny day, we might position our subjects in open shade for a more flattering effect--but again, we're loosing at least two stops against full sun, so ND filters are not needed in order to shoot wide open on a Lumix LX5 or, presumably, an LX7.

--Chris




Sep 15, 2012 at 12:36 PM
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Chris S. wrote:
My sense is that the Lumix LX series has, very sadly, jumped the shark with the LX7. I was an enthusiastic user of the LX-3, and though the LX-5 was in some ways a downgrade, the added lens range made me grudingly switch. And despite its foibles, I quite like my LX5. But I'm very dissapointed in the LX7 specs--and I very much wanted to be excited with the next upgrade.

Moving to a smaller sensor--Panasonic, what are you smoking? A larger sensor (so long as the camera size did not increase, and the lens did not lose range or
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Well, they did switch out the CCD sensor with a slightly smaller (20% by area) CMOS sensor. Like my former LX-3, the LX-5 has lots of sensor blooming in video mode that I'm sure the CMOS will not have. I have yet to see any technical reviews of the sensor or the lens of the LX-7, but I'm hoping that the IQ improved in some significant way in regards to sharpness (especially at the long end) and noise. I have an LX-5, but would consider the trade up to the LX-7 if sharpness and noise were improved - the LX-7 has enough other advantages over the LX-5 to seal the deal for me.

I was considering buying the new GH3 as a bridge between my LX-5 (or LX-7) and my D800 DSLR, but one of the most enjoyable things about the LX-series - the multi-aspect sensor - has been removed from the GH series, which is very much a disappointment.

John



Sep 17, 2012 at 02:02 PM
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Dpreview have posted their review:

http://www.dpreview.com/reviews/panasonic-lumix-dmc-lx7/




Oct 16, 2012 at 06:50 AM
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