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I'm testing the Olympus 8mm f/1.8 fisheye this week. Only shot with it for one walk, but a few things are very apparent early on:

1) This is a blisteringly sharp lens. Even at f/1.8, the central 85% of the frame is absolutely RAZOR sharp. As in, 75/1.8 sharp. Stopping down to around f/4 brings almost the whole frame to very sharp, and by f/5.6, the corners are even sharp (though a slight step behind the crazy sharp center.

2) It can focus unbelievably closely. You can rest the lens against a flat object, with the lower edge of the hood touching the object, and the lens can focus on it halfway up the frame. MFD is to around 1/4" in front of the front element. This opens up quite a few unique opportunities. Bokeh is pretty good (yes you get blur) when focused up close.

3) Flare control is OK. Better than some fisheyes I've seen, but certainly not the best I've seen either (Sigma 15mm....almost impossible to flare).

Several shots with it on my E-M10 II:

First, a self portrait at f/1.8 (lens was around 2" in front of my eye):
http://www.jordansteele.com/2016/fe_selfportrait.jpg

http://www.jordansteele.com/2016/planet_color_sculpture.jpg

http://www.jordansteele.com/2016/fe_bikewheel.jpg

http://www.jordansteele.com/2016/fe_bike.jpg

http://www.jordansteele.com/2016/fe_flagpole.jpg

http://www.jordansteele.com/2016/brick_runner.jpg



Feb 03, 2016 at 07:22 PM
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Falling Moon by Diego Garín Martín, en Flickr
Oly EM5 MKII, 7-14 f/2.8



Feb 04, 2016 at 09:41 AM
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p.347 #3 · OM-D & PEN Images


E-M10 II with Olympus 8mm f/1.8 Fisheye. I used the wi-fi remote for the first image...another self portrait.

http://www.jordansteele.com/2016/rockhouse_selfportrait2.jpg

http://www.jordansteele.com/2016/rock_house.jpg

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Feb 04, 2016 at 07:29 PM
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p.347 #4 · OM-D & PEN Images


Hocking Hills? I've never been there in the winter. I must get back this Spring when the falls are flowing.


Feb 04, 2016 at 08:25 PM
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Yes. The falls are flowing now. (They actually often have good winter flow. )


Feb 04, 2016 at 08:37 PM
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P2050016 by Thomas Dekany, on Flickr


Feb 05, 2016 at 03:30 AM
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I have used Nikon since 1966 except when I bought my wife an XA1. I am pushing 70 and have what the doctors call an idiopathic ( means they have NFI) tremor. I get the shakes and suffer intermittant wweaknes. The strengths of The Oly OMD system are well documented here. Apart from battery life, what are the draw backs?


Feb 05, 2016 at 05:46 AM
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Tim Ashton wrote:
I have used Nikon since 1966 except when I bought my wife an XA1. I am pushing 70 and have what the doctors call an idiopathic ( means they have NFI) tremor. I get the shakes and suffer intermittant wweaknes. The strengths of The Oly OMD system are well documented here. Apart from battery life, what are the draw backs?


I'm sorry to hear that Tom but I'd glad to hear you keep shooting

As with everything there are pros and cons. You give up something in order to get something else.

In short. m43 is a very small system, small cameras AND small, light lenses.
Extremely fast autofocus in good to moderate light. Not quite as good in very bad light. Autofocus still has some issues with tracking though, depending on which camera you get. They are not up to par with the DSLR's for sure but it's getting better.
Extremely good, sharp and well corrected lenses. Some of the best in the business actually. Panasonic Leica 42,5mm F1.2, Olympus 75mm F1.8 and Olympus 60mm F2.8 Macro to mention just three of the really good ones. There are plenty more though.
Good sensors and lots of functions. The smaller sensors will never deliver the same picture quality as a bigger one though. This is one drawback and a sacrifice one has to make.

Lots of features and functions, some not found in other cameras such as "Livebulb" where you can watch the picture expose on the screen (or smartphone) during a long exposure and then just stop it when you like where it's at.
Battery life like you said is a "problem" with all mirrorless cameras as there is always at least one digital screen active. Carrying extra batteries is a good way to go and you can get quite a few extra batteries thanks to the size and weight savings from a bigger system.

I looked up idiopathic tremor in order to get a better understanding of it. I'm not sure how much tremor you have or when but the OM-D bodies have an excellent internal stabilization system that works with all lenses, giving you somewhere around 4-5 stop of extra leverage in terms of camera shake/shutter speeds. I'm not sure weather that will be helpful for you or not though.

Just ask away about what you want to know.

Regards

Rasmus



Feb 05, 2016 at 11:58 AM
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Wilbus wrote:
I'm sorry to hear that Tom but I'd glad to hear you keep shooting

As with everything there are pros and cons. You give up something in order to get something else.

In short. m43 is a very small system, small cameras AND small, light lenses.
Extremely fast autofocus in good to moderate light. Not quite as good in very bad light. Autofocus still has some issues with tracking though, depending on which camera you get. They are not up to par with the DSLR's for sure but it's getting better.
Extremely good, sharp and well corrected lenses. Some of
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If you don't mind, I'd like to jump into the convo. I was looking to pick up an OM-D styled body for my mother, who is starting to feel the weight of her current nikon setup. She uses the D700 at the moment, which is really the best camera she has ever used. She is an excellent photographer, but does not know how to operate cameras extremely well. I convinced her to get a D700 a while back as it has every useful function built into a switch (continuous, single, manual autofocus switch; single point, multi point autofocus selector switch; dedicated iso button; and a few more programable buttons to make things easier). Is there anything like this in the olympus/pentax line that rivals this style of the D700? When functions are hidden in a menu-tree, she really struggles to find things easily (or if at all). Price isn't a major concern, but I don't think she would be overly interested in dropping more then $1500 with a body and a lens or two. Neither of us would have an issue picking up a used camera here on FM if it will help keep the cost down.



Feb 05, 2016 at 12:33 PM
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Jman13 wrote:
Yes. The falls are flowing now. (They actually often have good winter flow. )


Interesting to know about the flow. Looks like it was fairly warm there recently too with the pictures in your previous post. BTW, enjoy your site and reviews a lot!



Feb 05, 2016 at 12:47 PM
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dragicon wrote:
If you don't mind, I'd like to jump into the convo. I was looking to pick up an OM-D styled body for my mother, who is starting to feel the weight of her current nikon setup. She uses the D700 at the moment, which is really the best camera she has ever used. She is an excellent photographer, but does not know how to operate cameras extremely well. I convinced her to get a D700 a while back as it has every useful function built into a switch (continuous, single, manual autofocus switch; single point, multi point autofocus selector switch;
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The D700 is possibly the best digital slr ever made in my opinion, I loved mine and still miss it every now and then!

As far as switches go, well yes and no but even when no, it's still in a pretty good way
Makes total sense, right?

One of the reasons I wanted the D700 over my D80 was for that same reason, I love switches and knobs. It's also one of the reasons I decided to pick up an Olympus E-M1 this past summer even though I am fully aware of the fact that it's replacement will probably come by this summer or just after.

I will try and explain but if you wish, and can hold out till tomorrow, I can post some photos of what I mean as well, that might be the best way for you and your mother to decide weather it will be good enough or not.

There is no real switch for AF-S, AF-C and MF selection. There is a button for it on the upper left of the camera body marked with AF and [o]. By pressing it you change AF mode by turning the thumb wheel back and forth and if you turn the front wheel (located around the trigger) you change metering mode.
It's not the same type of physical switch as on the D700 but neither is it menu diving
If you wanna switch between single or multipoint AF you have a few different ways. You can either customize one the five customizable buttons to bring up AF points selector or just use the 4 way AF point selector on the back of the camera. If you set up a button for it, press it once to bring up the AF point selector and then either use the back AF selector pad and press in a direction a few times untill the AF point goes outside the frame, when it does, it changes to multi point mode. You can also make a combination of 9 point mode anywhere in the frame, and bring forth smaller points, by using the INFO button but I won't go in to that now.
The other way is after pressing the button, you move the front and rear selector wheel (thumb and trigger wheels) to move the AF points in the same way as you do with the pad. It's usually faster and way easier with gloves. You can of course combine both if you want to.

The E-M1 added the amazing 2x2 Switch selector which is something I absolutely love. The E-M5 Mk I did not have this, Mk II does however.
In its standard setting when set to position 1, which is "up" your thumb and trigger wheels control Aperture or shutter speed (or both) or exposure control. Just like most other cameras. If you switch it to position 2 which is slightly down the wheels instead control ISO and White balance. You can customize this as well and make either wheel control either setting. On the E-M1 it also changes settings (if you want it to) to the two buttons on the top left of the camera where you previously changed AF mode and metering mode, drive mode, HDR, self timer etc.

¨The ISO setting is something that I find really fast, actually faster then I did on the D700 and the best I've tried on any camera. On the E-M1 it's a one handed procedure.

I'll see if I can grab some shots for you tomorrow to make it a little more understandable, ok?

Regards

Rasmus



Feb 05, 2016 at 01:12 PM
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I'd suggest that you have your mom visit a camera store and let her actually feel the different cameras. You can always buy used afterwards.


dragicon wrote:
If you don't mind, I'd like to jump into the convo. I was looking to pick up an OM-D styled body for my mother, who is starting to feel the weight of her current nikon setup. She uses the D700 at the moment, which is really the best camera she has ever used. She is an excellent photographer, but does not know how to operate cameras extremely well. I convinced her to get a D700 a while back as it has every useful function built into a switch (continuous, single, manual autofocus switch; single point, multi point autofocus selector switch;
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Feb 05, 2016 at 03:28 PM
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There is also the SCP (Super Control Panel) which provides very quick visual access to almost all the commonly used functions.


Feb 05, 2016 at 04:13 PM
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I have only recently discovered that you can use this lever to change your AF control from the shutter button to the back button. What is so cool is that with the flip of the lever, you can toggle back and forth between the front AF shutter button and the back AF button. Thanks, Julius, for showing me how to do this!

Wilbus wrote:
The E-M1 added the amazing 2x2 Switch selector which is something I absolutely love. The E-M5 Mk I did not have this, Mk II does however.
In its standard setting when set to position 1, which is "up" your thumb and trigger wheels control Aperture or shutter speed (or both) or exposure control. Just like most other cameras. If you switch it to position 2 which is slightly down the wheels instead control ISO and White balance. You can customize this as well and make either wheel control either setting. On the E-M1 it also changes settings (if you want
...Show more




Feb 05, 2016 at 08:29 PM
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Wilbus wrote:
The D700 is possibly the best digital slr ever made in my opinion, I loved mine and still miss it every now and then!

As far as switches go, well yes and no but even when no, it's still in a pretty good way
Makes total sense, right?

One of the reasons I wanted the D700 over my D80 was for that same reason, I love switches and knobs. It's also one of the reasons I decided to pick up an Olympus E-M1 this past summer even though I am fully aware of the fact that it's replacement will probably come
...Show more


Thank you for the response Rasmus. I look forward to your pictures. Don't worry to much about making it overly timely, as my mom wont need the new camera until the spring or so. I will take a look at the EM-1 and see what I can about it. Thank you!



Feb 05, 2016 at 11:25 PM
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Many thanks Rasmus for your most comprehensive response. what you said pretty much confirms what i have learnt. Bottom line is a hell of a lot of camera and lenses for ones dollar along with an amazing stabilsiation system.

Re my shakes, the good news is they are 99% certain it isnt Parkinsons so with that news you smile, jump in the air and click your heels

My current Nikon is a D7000 which is an APSc 16Mp sensor. Despite the theoretical limitations sugesting otherwise I have found that I can print to A1 (approx 84 x 60 cms) if I nail exposure and focus. I guess I will be able to get similar or near with the Olympus although when I check on DX0 mark it suggests I might be stretching. Time will tell when I part company with my Nikon gear but the smaller bodies and lenses mean i will have it with me more often and as we all know, the best camera is the one you have with you.

Glad to see Bobby Tan still shooting M4/3. I remember his work well when he was shooting Canon (I think). Galenpas (MIke S) I see is another refugee I recognise from another life too.

All I have to do is convince my wife that the change will not cost anything. The amateur photographers perennial problem

Cheers

Tim



Feb 06, 2016 at 01:32 AM
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P2050105-Pano by Thomas Dekany, on Flickr


Feb 06, 2016 at 02:35 AM
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Awesome capture!

savingspaces wrote:
https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1627/24821143286_484c6276a8_h.jpgP2050105-Pano by Thomas Dekany, on Flickr




Feb 06, 2016 at 03:54 AM
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Was just about to say it Bobby! I love that shot Thomas!

Btw, I was just sitting and comparing wide angle zooms. I really don't know which way to go. I would like the Oly 7-14 most of all but considering there is no real smooth way of using filters on it, and the fact that I mainly intend to use it as a landscape and "outside" architectural lens with long shutter times it kind it looses some of its appeal.

Does the Pana accept filters? Is it good enough to warrant the still high price? (although not as high price of the Oly)

The other way would be the Oly 9-18 but I'm not sure I am gonna be happy with any zoom lens outside the Olympus Pro series anymore The Pro lenses have really made me look to high build quality.

I know Diego is working wonders with the 9-18 and still seem to use it more then the 7-14...
Diego, what are your thoughts?

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Feb 06, 2016 at 04:03 AM
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dragicon wrote:
Thank you for the response Rasmus. I look forward to your pictures. Don't worry to much about making it overly timely, as my mom wont need the new camera until the spring or so. I will take a look at the EM-1 and see what I can about it. Thank you!


Until spring?!

Come on, there must be something to shoot over there at winter!





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