douglasf13 wrote:
FWIW, the f1.8-4.9 aperture on this camera is about equal to f4.9-f13.4 on 35mm.
Another way to look at this would be that at its wide-end it is equivalent to f3.2 on NEX so about 0.25 stop faster than the NEX kit lens. On the long side the NEX kit lens is around 85mm equivalent and at that mark RX100 is likely to be around 1 stop slower than the NEX kit lens. Though the RX100 has a longer range of up to 100mm. So we have a camera which is fairly close to a NEX + kit lens combination in DOF and SNR terms and yet is tiny in comparison. I think thats impressive. At its wide end It is also only 0.4 stop worse in SNR and DOF capabilities compared to a NEX + the sigma 19mm 2.8.
Personally I am looking at it as a replacement for my wife's s95 for which it looks to be a great candidate as long as the price is not too high.
FlyPenFly wrote:
Wow is that right, in terms of DoF, it's only .4 stop worse than a APS-C + Sigma 19mm? So that would be like running an APS-C + Sigma 19mm at F3.5?
It is like running the APS-C + sigma 19mm at f3.2 actually The crop factor between Nex and this camera is around 1.77x. Compared to Canon the crop factor is around 1.7 so its wide end is roughly equivalent to an 18mm f3 lens on canon APS-C DSLR.
The camera looks interesting. Had it been available last fall I would have considered it over the Oly XZ-1 for the GF... but honestly am put off by the lack of EVF add-on option for my own use. I don't care how bright the screen is made to be in full sunlight, I just hate the P&S stance required with the rear LCDs when shooting. Agreed - a tilt display would have been a partially acceptable compromise.
Yeah, f2.8 on the X10 is about f4 on the RX100, but the RX100 only goes down to f4.9 at the long end. Still, this is quite a camera for being so pocketable, IMO.
millsart wrote:
with no stabilization listed on a 1" sensor.
It does have image stabilization
Key Features:
1" Exmor CMOS sensor
20.9 million effective pixels
28-100mm (equiv), f/1.8-4.9 Carl Zeiss Vario-Sonnar T* lens with 'Advanced Aspherical' element
Steady-Shot image stabilization
Contrast-detection AF with 25 points, including tracking and flexible spot options
ISO 100-6400 (up to ISO 25,600 using multi-frame noise-reduction)
Face Recognition and Face Registration (up to 8 faces)
Rear control dial and customizable front 'Control Ring'
10fps continuous shooting in 'Speed Priority' mode
3in, 1228.8K-dot 'WhiteMagic' LCD screen
13 Picture Effects with 27 variations
Memory Recall feature can store up to three groups of custom settings
1080 60p video (AVCHD) with MP4 option
Built-in stereo microphone
330-shot battery life (CIPA)
I'm not sure why (maybe the lighting?) but that x10 image really has my attention. Its not so much the composition but the rendering that seems very good. Is that typical of the x10 ?
FlyPenFly wrote:
This is the X10 image that I thought had an almost APS-C shallow enough DoF look:
Good news from the IR review is extremely fast buffer clearing time - even in RAW. Often a weak point in these cameras. Test images look pretty darn good as well.
Not sure I have a great need for this camera, I rarely use my LX3 as it is, but this is getting pretty close to a sweet spot between my m43 and phone that I might actually use.
As a side note I actually like the USB charging in this case. For me such a camera would be a travel back up and I'd prefer not to bring a separate charger. I suspect, however, if this were a primary camera that would be an annoyance. Hopefully an optional external charger will be available.
To be honest I could have wished for them to have used a bigger sensor to improve IQ rather than just as a means to double the megapixel 'wow' effect for consumers.
The crop factor between Nex and this camera is around 1.77x. Compared to Canon the crop factor is around 1.7 so its wide end is roughly equivalent to an 18mm f3 lens on canon APS-C DSLR.