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millsart wrote:
I'm sorry but I just don't really see the point in "pro" grade fast zooms for m4/3, any more than I would for NEX or any other compact system.
As was said about 35mm lenses years ago... I mean pro was all MF of course.
For something like m4/3 though, I just don't really see what someone would want to drop $1400 on. That is a lot of money, and while smaller than a 35mm lens, not exactly a compact lens either.
Not following the logic, if I want quality glass in a small package why wouldn't I drop money on it? I mean I could equally say I can't understand why someone would drop $1500 on a 24-70/2.8 that is so large (not to mention the giant body) that it sits in the closet and never gets taken anywhere. That's my experience these days with about $4K in L glass...
Isn't the point of m4/3 supposed to be a nice and compact, not to mention affordable system that you can take around for personal shooting when you don't want to lug the big DSLR rig ??
And the 12-35 breaks that paradigm how?
Are we going to see a whole bunch of m4/3 "pro" shooters now that think they are wedding photos etc because they have a fixed f2.8 zoom ?
I hope not. Of course far worse are the tens of thousands of DSLR shooters who think they are "pro" shooters destroying wedding memories because they have a fixed F2.8 zoom on a 7D.
With APS-C bodies, many of which are pretty small these days too there have been some 24-70 2.8 type zooms for ages, so how this Panasonic lens is so revolutionary I don't really see.
10 oz instead of 33 oz? For just the lens, not to mention the body?
I read on other forums how people say that the m4/3 system is now complete and they can sell their DSLR rig 
They don't need DoF, just speed.
I just don't get it. I own a m4/3 camera myself and just fail to understand how adding a f2.8 zoom to my EP3 is somehow magically going to make it okay now for me to sell my Nikon D3s.
You probably actually use your D3s for things m43 can't do. Many people, however, do not. Surprisingly the world is full of people not like you! Billions of them even (many with different color skin and languages believe it or not).
Even with the faster (and not doubt better optically) 12mm f2.0, 20mm f1.7 and 45mm 1.8 primes, m4/3 doesn't replace a DSLR.
And a DSLR does not replace a MF camera, but still many people have DSLRs and not MF cameras. And many MF photographers have moved to DSLRs and accepted the trade-offs.
If this was something like a $500 zoom, then sure, I could see it making sense, but when its nearly the same price as pro grade zooms for larger formats, I just have to wonder why.
At the risk of becoming a broken record, because a "pro" grade zoom for a larger format in the closet doesn't do many of us any good.
Why make your fun, personal, alternative camera system that is supposed to be an alternative to the big rig get heavier and very pricey ??
I think I see the disconnect here. This is your job, and unfortunately one that rarely pays particularly well. So you have a second big system that pays your bills but not much left over for fun. The target market for m43 is different, people outside the "pro" photography profession which typically means they have a lot more disposable income and no "primary" system. (EDIT: I'm not saying there is low total disposable income for the "pro", rather that probably less is allocated to "fun" photo-gear compared to a non-pro photographer). If they happen to have a DSLR there is nothing "primary" about it, it is all the market offered for them in the past. Now they have a choice, a system that is much smaller and portable so they switch to that. m43 "replaces" a DSLR for them because the DSLR was a sub-optimal system to begin with and m43 works better for them. For you obviously the DSLR has to stay no matter what your personal photography is, you can't show up to a pro-gig without the big DSLR (client perception) and m43 is not nearly as flexible with shallow DoF (client desires for wedding "look"). So what you say makes perfect sense for you, but little sense for most of the market. Really, "pros" are a vanishingly small part of the market...
You know exactly why I originally bought into m4/3 years ago ?? Because I didn't want to carry around a bunch of larger expensive gear I use for work when I'm just out for a walk, spending time with family, on a trip etc.
Yep, it is really good at that. I don't see how a 10 oz lens completely breaks that mold, but I can image wanting to stick with something lighter most of the time (which seems to be a big part of the m43 market).
Anyway, time will tell, but I suspect this lens will sell well - even at the price.
Ken
Edited on May 21, 2012 at 11:09 AM · View previous versions
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