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p.5 #1 · 300mm Or Over Primes (Image Thread)


Hey guys I'm joining in with my new Canon FDn 300mm f2.8L (newer UD glass type), which I bought on impulse because the price was right.

I knew the lens would be big, but it's ridiculously so. My NEX-5N looks like a rear lens cap on this monster. That's problematic for me, as I never have a tripod with me. My solution for now is a bean bag, The Pod, which attaches to the tripod collar. I can go down on one knee, rest the lens on my leg, and tilt the screen up. This gives enough support to avoid shake. Or I can just rest the lens on anything nearby.

I don't have much to show yet, but I can tell you the IQ is world class from the few shots I've taken so far. It's really razor sharp wide open, but DoF is a bit hard to control.

Theese are the first test shots (of nothing special) wide open.


Test by briantho, on Flickr


Test by briantho, on Flickr

When I saw the shot above I thought where is the CA Neither shot has been corrected for CA, but I applied some local sharpening.

I'll post more soon.

Edit: A question for others who have this lens. It came with a "Regular 1x" filter in the filter holder. Should I leave it in, or remove it? Is it just a UV filter, or what is it for?



Jul 25, 2012 at 03:32 PM
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p.5 #2 · 300mm Or Over Primes (Image Thread)


My FDn 400 F4.5 lens , has that same regular filter in its holder. I believe it stays in.
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Jul 25, 2012 at 06:16 PM
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p.5 #3 · 300mm Or Over Primes (Image Thread)


The regular filter normaly stays there.
Without this filter image plane for infinity moves I suppose ~0.6mm.



Jul 26, 2012 at 01:37 AM
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p.5 #4 · 300mm Or Over Primes (Image Thread)


Thanks, I reach infinity on NEX without it, so I removed it. Don't want unnecessery image degrading glass in the light path.


Jul 26, 2012 at 09:46 AM
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p.5 #5 · 300mm Or Over Primes (Image Thread)


Hi,

wilco23 wrote:
Thanks for the sample photos. I want to see image from L version now.


Here are a few tough ones, the "L" version really is pretty good (along with my 300's, 400's, and 500mm). CA is not an issue...support (gimbal mount or C-F monopod with RRS tilt head) is the real image killer. Of course, that is assuming you can get your subject in focus...

Edd

Edited on Jul 27, 2012 at 06:37 AM · View previous versions



Jul 26, 2012 at 10:52 AM
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briantho wrote:
Hey guys I'm joining in with my new Canon FDn 300mm f2.8L (newer UD glass type), which I bought on impulse because the price was right.

I knew the lens would be big, but it's ridiculously so. My NEX-5N looks like a rear lens cap on this monster. That's problematic for me, as I never have a tripod with me. My solution for now is a bean bag, The Pod, which attaches to the tripod collar. I can go down on one knee, rest the lens on my leg, and tilt the screen up. This gives enough support to
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People say that rear filters are "part of the optical formula" and therefore should be left in. The 300/2.8L has user adjustments for infinity which go way way beyond where infinity actually is. I dig that feature BTW! Anyway I've critically tested with and without the rear filter on a number of lenses and there is absolutely zero difference - Zero, zip, nada, nothing. So it's totally up to you whether to leave it in or shoot without.

I think the thinking on the part of the manufacturer is that if there is a clear filter in place then when the user swaps out to an ND, PL, or other filters then there won't be any need to adjust focus or readjust the infinity stop. Also having one in there labeled 1x might make people want to buy something that says 1.4x.






Jul 26, 2012 at 11:48 AM
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p.5 #7 · 300mm Or Over Primes (Image Thread)


Bifurcator wrote:
People say that rear filters are "part of the optical formula" and therefore should be left in. The 300/2.8L has user adjustments for infinity which go way way beyond where infinity actually is. I dig that feature BTW! Anyway I've critically tested with and without the rear filter on a number of lenses and there is absolutely zero difference - Zero, zip, nada, nothing. So it's totally up to you whether to leave it in or shoot without.

I think the thinking on the part of the manufacturer is that if there is a clear filter in place then
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Good that you did these tests so I won't have to.

I'll have to buy a 1.4x... but which one? The lens came with an Edmika 0.5mm adapter installed, so FD or EOS mount is possible, and I have NEX adapters for both. Which one would you recommend?

Damn, I just looked at the prices for the EF version... it almost costs more than I gave for the lens.



Jul 26, 2012 at 12:32 PM
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p.5 #8 · 300mm Or Over Primes (Image Thread)


I dunno. I've looked very briefly several times for alternatives to put in there but all I ever see is ND, IR, and CPL filters. I only assume there are diopters available. But if buying a diopter I would only want one made by Canon (or Zeiss... something like that).

Link me to the one you found if you would please.



Jul 26, 2012 at 12:45 PM
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p.5 #9 · 300mm Or Over Primes (Image Thread)


I meant the Canon Extender 1.4x to increase focal length.

BTW CPL would be problematic. How would you rotate the filter?



Jul 26, 2012 at 12:47 PM
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p.5 #10 · 300mm Or Over Primes (Image Thread)


http://www.amazon.com/Canon-EF-1-4X-III-Telephoto/dp/B0040X4PUE/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1343324929&sr=8-1&keywords=canon+extender+ef+1.4x+iii

But hey... I already have Contax Mutars I and II... I could mount that on my camera, and then use a C/Y to EF adapter to mount the lens... Why didn't I think of that? Gonna try it now.

Edit: Bummer. I need an adapter that goes the other way, that is mounting an EF or FD lens on C/Y. I'll look in to it.



Jul 26, 2012 at 12:48 PM
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p.5 #11 · 300mm Or Over Primes (Image Thread)


Thanks for the link... Yeah, that's the TC...

Good point on the CPL, I have no idea. I bought one for $8 and have used it on the Tamron 55BB 500mm mirror, and the UW Rokkor 18mm lenses. It worked OK. I didn't rotate anything and there's no mechanism to do so even if I wanted to - it's like a regular single part UV filter with no moving parts. So I'm at a loss <shrug>


EDIT
If you just wanna use a TC like that the Canon FD ones are good and also cheap. The 2x ones do degrade the image noticeably but very slightly and we're already dealing with a near perfect image in the 1st place so it's not that bad. The 1.4x ones don't seem to degrade the image in a humanly noticeable way. Either can be had for around $50 or so.




Jul 26, 2012 at 12:57 PM
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p.5 #12 · 300mm Or Over Primes (Image Thread)


Cross post from the NEX images thread.

The Canon FD 300mm f2.8L is superb as portrait lens. Some shots of my girlfriend. All wide open.


Cecilia by briantho, on Flickr


Cecilia by briantho, on Flickr


Cecilia by briantho, on Flickr


Cecilia by briantho, on Flickr


Cecilia by briantho, on Flickr



Jul 27, 2012 at 09:29 AM
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p.5 #13 · 300mm Or Over Primes (Image Thread)


Yup, it's nice for flowers too:

http://tesselator.gpmod.com/Images/_Image_By_Lens/Canon_FD_300mm_F2.8L/Canon_FD_300mm_f2.8L_1190444.jpg


http://tesselator.gpmod.com/Images/_Image_By_Lens/Canon_FD_300mm_F2.8L/Canon_FD_300mm_f2.8L_1190458.jpg

nFD 300/2.8L @ f/2.8, 1/1000s, ISO100, GH1




Jul 27, 2012 at 10:31 AM
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p.5 #14 · 300mm Or Over Primes (Image Thread)


Oh yes, it's good for flowers. And ducks.


Flower by briantho, on Flickr


Grass by briantho, on Flickr


Duck by briantho, on Flickr



Jul 27, 2012 at 10:58 AM
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p.5 #15 · 300mm Or Over Primes (Image Thread)


Yep, great for fowl. Here's a near 100% or actual 100% crop also using the canon 2x TC on the GH1. So this is 1,200mm equiv. wide open:

http://tesselator.gpmod.com/Images/_Image_By_Lens/Canon_FD_300mm_F2.8L/Canon_FD_300mm_f2.8L_1130752.jpg
1/4000s, f/2.8, ISO320, 2x TC, GH1







Jul 27, 2012 at 11:11 AM
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p.5 #16 · 300mm Or Over Primes (Image Thread)


Hi,

It takes the recommended Canon 2XB T.C. just fine...

Edd

Edited on Aug 11, 2012 at 05:49 PM · View previous versions



Jul 28, 2012 at 02:36 PM
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p.5 #17 · 300mm Or Over Primes (Image Thread)


Nice photo, I thougt it was 2xA that was recommended for 300+.


Jul 29, 2012 at 03:37 AM
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p.5 #18 · 300mm Or Over Primes (Image Thread)


Hi,

briantho wrote:
Nice photo, I thougt it was 2xA that was recommended for 300+.


No, actually the 2X-B is especially recommended for the 300mm f2.8L, and that is from Canon, Inc. The 2X-A is used with lenses 300mm or greater, except for the 300mm f2.8L. I have all three FD T.C.'s (1.4X, 2X-A, 2X-B) and a 7 element Kenko MC 2X. The best optical results come from the 1.4X, which is to be expected.

Edd



Jul 29, 2012 at 06:44 AM
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p.5 #19 · 300mm Or Over Primes (Image Thread)


Amazing photos of FD 300mm. Is there equivalent in Nikon? There are a few version in Nikon but I do not know which one has same IQ as FD 300L.


Jul 29, 2012 at 06:57 AM
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p.5 #20 · 300mm Or Over Primes (Image Thread)


Thanks, I think Nikon 300mm f2.8 AIS ED is the closest equivalent, but I don't know about IQ.


Jul 29, 2012 at 03:08 PM
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