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Don't get me wrong - I love the idea of a 7lb 500mm. The issue is will it alter my shooting style or not? If it means no tripod, then that's huge, but I just can't see myself being able to ditch the tripod. Sure I can probably handhold it a bit longer, but if I'm going to pack up all the gear I might as well get the reach.

Chris



Apr 10, 2012 at 08:22 PM
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What they said.

600 + 1.4x TC = 840mm @ f/5.6.

Jim


Oops! Sorry, I was thinking the 800mm with a 1.4x. Yes, the 600mm with a 1.4x will work.



Apr 10, 2012 at 09:05 PM
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I preordered my 600 a long long LOOOOONG time ago

Last word from a good source is more than likely the end of June

Also Pre-ordered the 1Dx and it should hit shelves the end of May

I also talked with Canon CPS and they feel the same time frame is probably correct.



Apr 10, 2012 at 09:31 PM
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The 200L IS at 5.6 lbs was my walkaround, so, 7lbs for me is easily handholdable all day.

On Long Island I can be on a north shore beach in 5 minutes, Jamaica Bay in 20 and Jones Beach in 30.

I usually run out for an hour with just a camera, so I want light.

Besides, I have never had a lens that was long enough.

Maybe...

500L IS II.




Apr 11, 2012 at 06:00 AM
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Psychic1 wrote:
7lbs U are not alone.


No longer, it would appear.

The performance choice between 500II and 600II boils down to 20% FL difference for 20% weight difference......so you take your pick, whatever is more important to you.



Apr 11, 2012 at 08:35 AM
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p.2 #6 · Pre-ordering 500/600 II


I have a question about these big lenses and transport. I'm looking at two options to carry my future big lens. I've narrowed it down to the Gura Gear Kiboko 30L or the F-stop Tilopia BC with XL ICU. I currently use an f-stop Guru backpack and really like how it works and its quality. I also like how the products don't look like typical boxy camera backpacks. I like the Kiboko because of its low weight and ability to surely fit on planes easily. Also it seems like you can get a lot of gear in there with one side for the big glass and the other for all my other lenses and bodies. I just can't decide!! Please help me out although I know not a lot of people will have experience with both these bags. Any opinions are appreciated.

Thread highjack in progress.........



Apr 11, 2012 at 08:45 AM
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jkhalifa wrote:
I'm interested to know the rationale behind ordering/owning both the 500 and the 600. Can someone who is doing this chime in with their reasoning?

Justin


I had the 600mm F4 and 500mm F4 for many years.... My justification was that the 500mm was my wifes long lens Worked for me. About 2 years ago I sold the 600mm and replaced it with the 800mm F5.6L IS. Made much more sense to have a bigger FL difference.

Don't think I'd order the 500mm & 600mm. To close together. I'd probably go 600mm and look hard at the new 200-400 if and when it ever appears.. That would be a great combo! For me I'm sticking with the 800mm and will either replace my current 500mm with the new version or go with the 200-400mm.



Apr 11, 2012 at 09:29 AM
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I might upgrade my 500 to the 500II or possibly the 600II but not until prices drop. In the UK prices tend to drop by about 30% over the first 12-18 months. 300II is now available for £5400, was intially £7499 pre-order , so little sense rushing when the 500IS is so good.


Apr 11, 2012 at 10:16 AM
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willis wrote:
I might upgrade my 500 to the 500II or possibly the 600II but not until prices drop. In the UK prices tend to drop by about 30% over the first 12-18 months. 300II is now available for £5400, was intially £7499 pre-order , so little sense rushing when the 500IS is so good.


That is an astonishing difference of 2,100 pounds sterling in a matter of a few months.
Only a fool or a very desperate person would pre-order in the UK under those pricing practices.



Apr 11, 2012 at 04:09 PM
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The poll results are interesting. It would also seem that many people who do not participate in the forum proceedings on a regular basis have taken their part in the poll. After all, FM forum has tens of thousands of members, but only a few hundred active ones.

I am only aware of one regular FM member who bought both 300 II and 400 II at the same time. Now, we have no less than eight folks who are saying they are buying the 500/600 II lens pair.



Apr 12, 2012 at 07:28 PM
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Peter,
Your thread has flopped because you forgot to add a 200-400 f/4 L IS (+1.4x) in the poll for me. Anyone know the approx release date for that lens?



Apr 12, 2012 at 08:59 PM
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kirry007 wrote:
Peter,
Your thread has flopped because you forgot to add a 200-400 f/4 L IS (+1.4x) in the poll for me. Anyone know the approx release date for that lens?


Probably "When the sun rises in the west and sets in the east. When the seas go dry and mountains blow in the wind like leaves."



Apr 12, 2012 at 09:33 PM
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arbitrage wrote:
Probably "When the sun rises in the west and sets in the east. When the seas go dry and mountains blow in the wind like leaves."



Thanks, Socrates !



Apr 12, 2012 at 09:50 PM
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p.2 #14 · Pre-ordering 500/600 II


Time to bring this old thread back. According to it, 25 people have preordered 500/600 IIs, in total 33 lenses, as some have reported a double order.

How many do we actually own at this time ? A half a dozen perhaps ?



Jun 20, 2012 at 03:59 PM
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p.2 #15 · Pre-ordering 500/600 II


Perhaps another poll is in order? I know of 5 500s and 2, maybe 3 600s I think.


Jun 20, 2012 at 04:37 PM
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p.2 #16 · Pre-ordering 500/600 II


Yes one more 600 F4 II ordered here to be sent to NYC and then on to Thailand.

These were done last year (hand-held) with the 500 F4 IS and the Canon 7D - raptors, bee-eaters and others in migration in Thailand - free download:

https://www.dropbox.com/s/aljw6rlw0nf58jz/2011.FinalReport.KhaoDinsor.pdf





Jun 20, 2012 at 04:41 PM
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p.2 #17 · Pre-ordering 500/600 II


Not all lenses ordered have been delivered yet.


Jun 20, 2012 at 05:16 PM
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I ordered the 500 II and 600 II at the same time from B&H shortly after B&H announced back orders. I have so far received only the 500 II, but not from B&H but from another reseller. The 600 II I've called around about but I've yet to locate one.


Jun 20, 2012 at 05:34 PM
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p.2 #19 · Pre-ordering 500/600 II


IMO, not a good strategy to be preordering that sort of stuff from B&H or Adorama.
I have no idea why some people keep doing it. Time after time it's been proven that some smaller (and very reputable too) camera stores somehow manage to get the new stuff first.

As far as Amazon goes, this kind of product advertising makes me question their business ethics......they have never gotten a penny of my money and they never will.



Jun 20, 2012 at 05:59 PM
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I consider it a lesson learned. I'm not usually the type to pre-order. Usually I wait, hunt and pounce once I see it in stock and that has worked out well for me. This year I started to pre-order all sorts of Canon and Nikon stuff from B&H and I'll concede I've had to cancel almost all of my pre-orders with B&H because the items have been in stock at other retailers first (no pre-order required). In fact I had an item pre-ordered with B&H and they listed it in stock for *several* days in a row on their web site and still never filled my back order. I had to call them and say "um, can you please fill my back order?" And they did.

I'm not trying to bash B&H in general. I was able to get my 300 II and 400 II from them without a pre-order on the first shipping day. They have lots of current gear in stock and their website works very well and they ship fast. They have fair no haggle pricing and terms. I'm just agreeing that pre-ordering hot new items with them may not make sense if you want them ASAP.



Jun 20, 2012 at 06:11 PM
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