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What's up with that? Are they still shipping to the other 50 states?





Apr 03, 2012 at 08:46 PM
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That rings a bell...


The drums of war are beating.. they killed Kenny!!!



Apr 03, 2012 at 08:48 PM
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Now we'll have to start intercepting those UPS trucks headed for Alaska...


Apr 03, 2012 at 08:57 PM
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Perhaps Canada has been raising issue with the lack of collection of HST/GST on goods imported into Canada from US retailers, especially if the goods circumvent the US/Canada distribution arm via grey market importation?!


Apr 04, 2012 at 12:22 AM
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wilt wrote:
Perhaps Canada has been raising issue with the lack of collection of HST/GST on goods imported into Canada from US retailers?!


And what makes you think the taxes are not being collected



Apr 04, 2012 at 12:24 AM
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This is not good news. I would say I've bought 90% of my gear over the past 7 years from B+H (with GST/HST and duty paid). Luckily I have some options living near the border. I feel for Canadians without that option.

Canon are really making it hard to like them as a company.



Apr 04, 2012 at 12:38 AM
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yea. Im looking for a 85 1.8 right now and they all are cheaper in the US by at least $60 even with shipping and brokerage


Apr 04, 2012 at 01:01 AM
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EyeBrock wrote:
This is not good news. I would say I've bought 90% of my gear over the past 7 years from B+H (with GST/HST and duty paid).


What duty? Most photography gear is duty-free. All you usually have to pay is tax and brokerage fees, no duty.



Apr 04, 2012 at 09:14 AM
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Pixel Perfect wrote:
How long before this means US can't ship Canon gear any where else in the world either?


You're probably aware of this but Nikon USA rules already prohibit authorized retailers in the USA from shipping any Nikon dslr to any address outside the USA.

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Apr 04, 2012 at 09:39 AM
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EyeBrock wrote:
This is not good news. I would say I've bought 90% of my gear over the past 7 years from B+H (with GST/HST and duty paid). Luckily I have some options living near the border. I feel for Canadians without that option.

Canon are really making it hard to like them as a company.


Why would it be Canon's decision to raise prices on gears sold on the same continent as the US? Canon USA, perhaps, but to Canon Japan money's money.

Canon goods aren't produced in the USA, so NAFTA's not material.

The disparity in costs arise at the importer and customs, to my understanding, not Canon Japan. While the market may not be as big in Australia as North America, it's 2000 miles closer to the point of origin (closer if the goods are Malaysian or Thai).

Nikon goods are just as overpriced in Australia and Canada as Canon goods ... right?



Apr 04, 2012 at 09:44 AM
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Canon goods aren't produced in the USA, so NAFTA's not material.


That is a rather general statement. All goods (regardless of country of origin) come under the scrutiny of the NAFTA. The NAFTA determines what goods are eligible or not eligible for tariffs or duties. Supposedly, a camera or lens made in Asia, imported into the U.S., and then sold into Canada should have a Bill of Origin shipped with it and duty should be charged by Canada Customs. In my over ten years of buying photo gear from the U.S., I have NEVER had to pay duty on a single item, regardless of the country of origin of the item.

Canada also has free trade agreements with the following countries:
Canada - Panama Free Trade Agreement
Canada - Jordan Free Trade Agreement
Canada - Colombia Free Trade Agreement
Canada - Peru Free Trade Agreement
Canada - European Free Trade Association (EFTA)
Canada - Costa Rica Free Trade Agreement (CCRFTA)
Canada - Chile Free Trade Agreement (CCFTA)
Canada - Israel Free Trade Agreement (CIFTA)

Canada is also considering free trade agreements with China, Japan and Korea. Should any of those come to fruition, I would expect a lot of customers would be buying camera gear made in those countries directly from those countries, rather than from the U.S., if the cost of the item delivered to your doorstep was less.



Apr 04, 2012 at 10:09 AM
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Imagemaster wrote:
Canada - Colombia Free Trade Agreement


Is that British Colombia ?

So what's "free" about it ? A free flow of ganja into Canada, and a free flow of guns from Canada to (British) Colombia ?



Apr 04, 2012 at 10:22 AM
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Columbia is a country in South America.

Edit: Colombia dammit!

Edited on Apr 04, 2012 at 10:47 AM · View previous versions



Apr 04, 2012 at 10:26 AM
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helimat wrote:
Columbia is a country in South America.





Apr 04, 2012 at 10:31 AM
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PetKal wrote:
Is that British Colombia ?

So what's "free" about it ? A free flow of ganja into Canada, and a free flow of guns from Canada to (British) Colombia ?


You would have to ask one of your buddies, Brian Bullroney or John Cretin.



Apr 04, 2012 at 10:32 AM
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jcolwell wrote:
Note that Canon Canada is a solely-owned subsidary of Canon USA.


And Canon USA is a wholly-owned subsidiary of Canon Inc.

That doesn't really matter in a company structured like Canon. Canon Inc. isn't playing sugar daddy for the regional subsidiaries. They're required to operate and be profitable on their own.

CPS is provided by the regional office using the regional office's money.
Marketing is provided by the regional office using the regional office's money.
Customer service is provided by the regional office using the regional office's money.

Canon Canada's got a tough row to hoe if regional sales restrictions aren't being respected.



Apr 04, 2012 at 10:43 AM
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outlawyer wrote:
Why would it be Canon's decision to raise prices on gears sold on the same continent as the US? Canon USA, perhaps, but to Canon Japan money's money.

Canon goods aren't produced in the USA, so NAFTA's not material.

The disparity in costs arise at the importer and customs, to my understanding, not Canon Japan. While the market may not be as big in Australia as North America, it's 2000 miles closer to the point of origin (closer if the goods are Malaysian or Thai).

Nikon goods are just as overpriced in Australia and Canada as Canon goods ... right?


According to Photoprice.ca, Canon (USA and or Canada) are the ones putting pressure on them to stop advertising US prices. J+R have said 'Canon' are giving it to them to stop exporting to Canada.

I'd say that its a reasonable assumption from these sources that Canon is behind the pressure, hence my comment at finding it hard to like Canon. A company that is proctecting it's price gouging in Canada.

Who else is to blame? Retailers are losing out big time to US retailers because of these tactics. Instead of levelling costs Canon are jamming us with 30-40% higher prices.


On import costs. B+H seem to incur minimum costs, just a couple of bucks on top of the HST. Prior to B+H taking taxes up front, 'brokerage fees' were a bit ridiculous. For items that are supposed to be tariff free between the US and Canada and are made in Japan.



Apr 04, 2012 at 11:17 AM
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Japanese products are higher in the Eurozone and the British colonies throughout the world, IME, places where there are certainly no US distibutorships or subsidiaries involved. From Toyota to Kawasaki to Seiko to Canon/Nikon. It's not credible that this is a result of a conspiracy among Japanese manufacturers to reduce their own sales by selectively raising prices only in these regions.

The problem lies not within Nippon, but within ourselves. Shakespeare.




Apr 04, 2012 at 12:03 PM
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outlawyer wrote:
Japanese products are higher in the Eurozone and the British colonies throughout the world, The problem lies not within Nippon, but within ourselves. Shakespeare.



Hey, buddie, just a little note.........Canada has freed herself from the British colonial yoke some time ago......therefore, today Canada is a free country, not a colony.
As far as British Columbia is concerned, they are probably still a British colony or a protectorate.



Apr 04, 2012 at 12:57 PM
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Its a pretty long boat ride to Australia 3/4 of which is a desert. Probably why the high prices.


Apr 04, 2012 at 02:27 PM
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