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Archive 2012 · Hey, Sunway: That's my photograph. Please stop the copyright infringement.

  
 
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p.2 #1 · Hey, Sunway: That's my photograph. Please stop the copyright infringement.


Boycott is a good idea. Afterall if they can't sell to nerds like us, who will buy their stuff?


Mar 27, 2012 at 12:01 PM
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p.2 #2 · Hey, Sunway: That's my photograph. Please stop the copyright infringement.


Smiert,

Thank you for bringing this to my attention. I will never buy a product from them until you are satisfied with their apology and compensation.

Barry

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Mar 27, 2012 at 12:59 PM
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p.2 #3 · Hey, Sunway: That's my photograph. Please stop the copyright infringement.


Maybe a mod could move this to Pro Digital Corner?
Smiert, bill them.



Mar 27, 2012 at 01:15 PM
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p.2 #4 · Hey, Sunway: That's my photograph. Please stop the copyright infringement.


I've sent Fred a note to keep him in the loop. I'd personally prefer to keep this here, so that (hopefully) once it's resolved, Sunway can save a little face. Whatever he feels is appropriate is fine, though.

I'm not going to go on and on about this, but I will post updates when it's relevant.

Thanks again, all.



Mar 27, 2012 at 03:25 PM
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p.2 #5 · Hey, Sunway: That's my photograph. Please stop the copyright infringement.


there is a website called tineye and it will find a lot, maybe not all uses of your pictures.



Mar 27, 2012 at 03:39 PM
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p.2 #6 · Hey, Sunway: That's my photograph. Please stop the copyright infringement.


Sunway:

I see that you've begun to scrub my image from your sites. I still expect an apology and compensation. You've been using those images for over a year.

Please reply.



Mar 27, 2012 at 09:03 PM
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p.2 #7 · Hey, Sunway: That's my photograph. Please stop the copyright infringement.


I was about to purchase a sunway clamp for my monopod, and possibly a second ballhead... now I will pursue other options. This behavior toward their own customer base seems insanely stupid...



Mar 27, 2012 at 09:42 PM
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p.2 #8 · Hey, Sunway: That's my photograph. Please stop the copyright infringement.


I will be boycotting Sunway until Smiert has been very adequately compensated.
Dave



Mar 28, 2012 at 11:38 AM
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p.2 #9 · Hey, Sunway: That's my photograph. Please stop the copyright infringement.


They charge over $ 400 for their new ballheads. And steal you photos !! Incredible!!
Especially with the promotion thread from Sunwayphoto here a couple of weeks ago



Mar 28, 2012 at 01:12 PM
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p.2 #10 · Hey, Sunway: That's my photograph. Please stop the copyright infringement.


Pure bullpucky. I'll be sticking with RRS!

Dave



Mar 29, 2012 at 10:17 AM
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p.2 #11 · Hey, Sunway: That's my photograph. Please stop the copyright infringement.


Sunway has responded, and we're working this out. I believe they're honestly committed to fixing this, and I don't think it will happen again. Part of making a very public complaint like this is being willing to work things out if they respond, and they have done so. I am very appreciate of them taking that step.

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Mar 29, 2012 at 11:01 AM
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p.2 #12 · Hey, Sunway: That's my photograph. Please stop the copyright infringement.


Sunway is off my list!


Mar 29, 2012 at 06:32 PM
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p.2 #13 · Hey, Sunway: That's my photograph. Please stop the copyright infringement.


Any chance you registered that image in your last bulk copyright registration submission?

You _do_ register all of your copyrights, correct?



Mar 29, 2012 at 07:52 PM
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p.2 #14 · Hey, Sunway: That's my photograph. Please stop the copyright infringement.


Yes, I do register my work, but didn't register that one. I wish I had, but it wouldn't help much in recovering from a Chinese manufacturer, anyway. I doubt they'll use it again, but if their distributor in Dallas does it again (via Amazon or eBay, etc.), I'll pursue it further.

At this point, about all that is left is making sure that other photographers have access to this information.




Mar 29, 2012 at 11:06 PM
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p.2 #15 · Hey, Sunway: That's my photograph. Please stop the copyright infringement.


Though I'm nobody, add me to the list of ones here who will NEVER buy anything from this company as I despise IP theft and piracy.

Before this, I was actually considering the XB-52 ballhead though I thought its price was too high for a product from a company not yet established as a quality manufacturer. With this type of behavior, they never will be.



Mar 30, 2012 at 04:42 AM
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p.2 #16 · Hey, Sunway: That's my photograph. Please stop the copyright infringement.


jcolwell wrote:
Sunway is off my list!


+1



Mar 30, 2012 at 05:31 AM
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p.2 #17 · Hey, Sunway: That's my photograph. Please stop the copyright infringement.


Important update:

I received a very nice email from Sunway this morning. They've apologized for what they did, as well as for the delay, and they've taken down the last of the images that are still in use. This is excellent progress.

We're now communicating, and I think we can resolve this.

Through this whole thing, what I wanted most was to communicate to them how strongly most photographers feel about intellectual property. I wish this incident had never happened, but I think they understand this better now, and I doubt they will make this mistake again. That's a good step.

When something like this happens, each day that goes by without a response makes it harder for the company to face the customer, and harder to reach a solution. So: thank you, Winnie and Richard, for contacting me. That is a very important step in developing a healthy relationship with the photographic community.

Thanks.



Mar 30, 2012 at 10:38 AM
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p.2 #18 · Hey, Sunway: That's my photograph. Please stop the copyright infringement.


Smiert - you've handled this very professionally, and I'm glad things seem to be working out. Great job!


Mar 30, 2012 at 01:25 PM
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p.2 #19 · Hey, Sunway: That's my photograph. Please stop the copyright infringement.


Thanks, Joe. I'm trying to strike a balance between ignoring it and becoming a full-on bunny boiler. Hopefully, I'm not too much of the latter....

In talking to Sunway, it sounds like there have been some staff turnover issues that were part of the problem. They're not using that as an excuse, which is good, and they seem to genuinely want to make amends.



Mar 31, 2012 at 04:39 PM
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p.2 #20 · Hey, Sunway: That's my photograph. Please stop the copyright infringement.


ripping off there own customers... i'll stick with proper companys.


Apr 02, 2012 at 07:51 AM
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