EB-1 wrote:
Presumably they did not want to alienate D3/D3s and most other CF camera users that have tons of pricey CF cards and share them between multiple cameras. I don't think everyone will be throwing out their D3/D3s or replacing all of them at one time. Many will be used as backups or as 2nd/3rd bodies.
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I have a D3 and D3S, and having both formats is what alienates me. I wouldn't mind having to switch formats, but I sure don't want to have to maintain both.
My guess is that they wanted to do dual XQD but weren't sure if the cards would be widely available by launch time, so they decided to do one of each. I wouldn't be surprised if we saw a D4S in one year that was dual XQD and very minor other differences.
brett maxwell wrote:
I have a D3 and D3S, and having both formats is what alienates me. I wouldn't mind having to switch formats, but I sure don't want to have to maintain both.
My guess is that they wanted to do dual XQD but weren't sure if the cards would be widely available by launch time, so they decided to do one of each. I wouldn't be surprised if we saw a D4S in one year that was dual XQD and very minor other differences.
no, its simply called transition. intro a new and presumably better memory product and let it sink in. allow one to acclimatize to the newer product with minimal commitment at first and still allowing the current standard to coexist. i think it actualy shows reasonable confidence. with the next version you had better get used to it, and you will, because most likely it will be all XQD. XQD could actually put a damper on SD too in the DSLR world speed and size with robustness. who knows
you will still have bodies that support CF so use and the ability to cull your collections is there.
what i really find amusing is at the beginning of last week B&H was taking preorders on the new Lexar Pro 1000x CF model and the price was considerable lower but had additional shipping. at the end of the week the price went up a fair bit but now had "free" shipping. rolled the shipping into the price added a pinch more for luck and a repackaged "deal" appears.
CF is far from going anywhere for a few more years.
philipj wrote:
Sony makes Nikon's sensors. Sony makes XQD cards.
It's not hard to see why XQD is a feature in the D4. I suspect it has everything to do with negotiating price that Nikon has to pay for custom sensors, and little else.
Wow...I wish I had your amazing insight.!! I did not realize until just this moment that EVERYTHING IS A HUGE CONSPRIRACY.!! Thanks for opening my eyes.
i'm really don't think Sony at this point is in any position to "bully" too many other companies around. they have enough of their own issues to deal with. you do know what assume breaks down into?
its looking to be a much better option then its lesser distant cousin twice removed SD/SDHC/SDXC
philipj wrote:
Sony makes Nikon's sensors. Sony makes XQD cards.
It's not hard to see why XQD is a feature in the D4. I suspect it has everything to do with negotiating price that Nikon has to pay for custom sensors, and little else.
Then let us fervently hope you never take up a law-enforcement occupation, or any occupation where a basic understanding of economics, a solid grounding in reality, and a useful grasp of simple empirical logic are required.
Yes, that's a fairly harsh statement. But please, get a Clue! The XQD format is an open standard, so there will be lots of companies making them (they just are not doing so yet). And XQD, despite a clumsy name, is in the D4 simply because of the natural evolution of technology, just like ISA cards gave way to PCI and then to PCIe and a million other such examples. Most cameras that now use CF will go to XQD at some point.
It's in the D4 because the D4 is Nikon's flagship, and Nikon is making every effort to stay on the leading edge of technology. Simple as that.
Rodolfo Paiz wrote:
Then let us fervently hope you never take up a law-enforcement occupation, or any occupation where a basic understanding of economics, a solid grounding in reality, and a useful grasp of simple empirical logic are required.
Yes, that's a fairly harsh statement. But please, get a Clue! The XQD format is an open standard, so there will be lots of companies making them (they just are not doing so yet). And XQD, despite a clumsy name, is in the D4 simply because of the natural evolution of technology, just like ISA cards gave way to PCI and then to PCIe and a million other such examples. Most cameras that now use CF will go to XQD at some point.
It's in the D4 because the D4 is Nikon's flagship, and Nikon is making every effort to stay on the leading edge of technology. Simple as that....Show more →
sjms wrote:
you know you're damned if you do and damned if you don't
That's for damned sure!
I'm sure it will even replace the SDHC cards in point and shoots eventually. When folks realize that their buddy's cam downloads pics in a couple seconds while theirs take 30 seconds, the WOW factor kicks in and everyone wants one.
runamuck wrote:
I'm sure it will even replace the SDHC cards in point and shoots eventually.
Only if there is a mini or micro XQD. The current cards are too large for most P/S form factors.
When folks realize that their buddy's cam downloads pics in a couple seconds while theirs take 30 seconds, the WOW factor kicks in and everyone wants one.
SD is scaling to >100MB/sec. The P/S cameras cannot write at the max speeds of the current cards because there are image processing bottlenecks. The cards are not the issue yet.
rhyder wrote:
Wow...I wish I had your amazing insight.!! I did not realize until just this moment that EVERYTHING IS A HUGE CONSPRIRACY.!! Thanks for opening my eyes.
Not sure what you mean, there's no conspiracy here?
Rodolfo Paiz wrote:
Then let us fervently hope you never take up a law-enforcement occupation, or any occupation where a basic understanding of economics, a solid grounding in reality, and a useful grasp of simple empirical logic are required.
Yes, that's a fairly harsh statement. But please, get a Clue! The XQD format is an open standard, so there will be lots of companies making them (they just are not doing so yet). And XQD, despite a clumsy name, is in the D4 simply because of the natural evolution of technology, just like ISA cards gave way to PCI and then to PCIe and a million other such examples. Most cameras that now use CF will go to XQD at some point.
It's in the D4 because the D4 is Nikon's flagship, and Nikon is making every effort to stay on the leading edge of technology. Simple as that....Show more →
Feel free to disagree with me, but you don't have to insult my intelligence.
If you honestly don't think there was some discussion about this between Nikon and Sony, you're the one who needs to get a Clue [sic]. No other manufacturer has signed on to make XQD cards yet, so Nikon would have a lot of explaining to do if they launched their flagship new pro camera with a port for cards that no one was making.
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