Sorry, I'm a Canon shooter. Just recently started paying much more attention to Nikon. Can someone explain to me how you choose the focal points with the D800 since it's lacking the D4's joystick?
I made a lot of images I am proud of on a D700, but I just pre-ordered a D800. The one problem I run into with my landscape images is satisfying the demand for stupidly large prints. I can do it on canvas, but a D800 will go a long way towards allowing me to do it on photo-paper.
If this camera performs at least as well as the D700 with respect to high ISO, I see only one problem with Nikon's strategy; this will be the last camera I purchase from Nikon this decade.
I don't understand. D700 is an exceptional camera, no doubt about it and I miss mine all the time. It was, is, and will still be a great camera. But to say That the D800 with all the advancements at a very attractive price (relative to a new D700) a dissapointment is not right in my opinion. It may not be the one that you want or it may not fit your shooting style but dissapointment, sorry I have to dissagree. On the paper, it may be the best camera there is (it even competes with MF cameras) and at that price, it's a winner.
fsiagian wrote:
I don't understand. D700 is an exceptional camera, no doubt about it and I miss mine all the time. It was, is, and will still be a great camera. But to say That the D800 with all the advancements at a very attractive price (relative to a new D700) a dissapointment is not right in my opinion. It may not be the one that you want or it may not fit your shooting style but dissapointment, sorry I have to dissagree. On the paper, it may be the best camera there is (it even competes with MF cameras) and at that price, it's a winner....Show more →
Define disappointment. Disappointment to me is having way more MP than I need for my work, and thus having monstrous RAW files that will tax my system and take up too much space. Yes, for some the 36MP will be a welcome addition to what they've been wanting, but to others it will be overkill, and for them, can you understand that it is a disappointment? If not, that's okay, we can agree to disagree, but my gripe is that Nikon is eliminating the D700 line which filled a beautiful niche that worked perfectly for my photography, the D800 does not and in fact hinders my everyday workflow. If they come out with a D700s in addition to the D800, then I will no longer be disappointed
cineski wrote:
Sorry, I'm a Canon shooter. Just recently started paying much more attention to Nikon. Can someone explain to me how you choose the focal points with the D800 since it's lacking the D4's joystick?
The wheel on the back of the body acts as the AF point selector (not as the Big wheel Canon uses, but as a joystick with 8-direction input).
The problem for some people, me included, is professionally it's way too many mp. 90% of my work ends up in newspapers or on websites. These clients ask for smaller files than my D700 creates naturally so I am already having to pixel bin from 12mp to satisfy their needs. For magazine double spreads the full high res 12mp look great. Therefore 36mp is a total waste for me and i imagine for many other pros and we would have to pixel bin hugely for our clients.
Great marketing by Nikon and 36mp sounds great, but what percentage of photographers actually want, need, or will even appreciate it?
pr4photos wrote:
The problem for some people, me included, is professionally it's way too many mp. 90% of my work ends up in newspapers or on websites. These clients ask for smaller files than my D700 creates naturally so I am already having to pixel bin from 12mp to satisfy their needs. For magazine double spreads the full high res 12mp look great. Therefore 36mp is a total waste for me and i imagine for many other pros and we would have to pixel bin hugely for our clients.
Great marketing by Nikon and 36mp sounds great, but what percentage of photographers actually want, need, or will even appreciate it?...Show more →
From what I've seen in the past many years. Nikon listens to what their pro's want, so it seems it was asked for. There is the option of shoot at 15MP.
My friends are selling their D700 to get D800 but you're all right, this is not a replacement. Nope I wouldn't think it is.....
I wonder how long before Nikon discontinue D700?
monochrome wrote:
From what I've seen in the past many years. Nikon listens to what their pro's want, so it seems it was asked for. There is the option of shoot at 15MP.
Yes, but at a DX crop, it would have been so much better if Nikon simply added a pixel binning RAW option like Canon's 5D Mark II, it seems like they still could via a firmware update, I wonder why they did not
What about a D -400 ?? is that still coming too?? i have the 300 and 7000 and have been on the fence, new or used?? D3 or 700 i think i may go for a 24-70 2.8!! the NAS is trying get me !!!! tax return!!!!!! Ken Rockwell says buy buy buy the D-800 !!!! best thing Nikon had done in 4 years!!
jhinkey wrote:
I'll have to continue to shoot my more than capable D700 for another year or two before picking up a refurbed or used D800. Though I don't want all those pixels, the other upgraded features over the D700 does make it attractive to me.
Perhaps in the mean time Nikon will come out with a D700(s)-type of FX camera that has less MP, better DR, and perhaps is a bit less expensive. One can hope.
John
This right here... except for the keeping it for only 1 or 2 years part. My wife would not be happy I can wait until the D700 dies.
james balboni wrote:
Ken Rockwell says buy buy buy the D-800 !!!! best thing Nikon had done in 4 years!!
Ken Also said the D7000 was the best camera Nikon ever produced. While I don't mind his website, there is some decent info on there, he is a Nikon fanboy through and through and Nikon can do no wrong. Every new product Nikon puts out is "the best they've ever made"
trevanian wrote:
" this will be the last camera I purchase from Nikon this decade."
I don't know how to do the quote thingy but come on, this has to make the top 10 biggest lies told to our wives and significant others?
My wife's a photographer, so fortunately I don't need to lie about such things. However, I think that, in order for it to be a lie, I have to know what I am saying is either not true, or unlikely to be. As I look at the specs for the D800, I really do wonder what else I would need in a camera. Video, insane resolution, and decent high ISO performance in a weather sealed, reasonably sized shell. My belief in the camera's longevity in my gear stable is sincere.
I used a 1D Mark II for over 8 years as my only DSLR, so I really do believe the same may be possible of the D800.
wjmeyer wrote:
Define disappointment. Disappointment to me is having way more MP than I need for my work, and thus having monstrous RAW files that will tax my system and take up too much space. Yes, for some the 36MP will be a welcome addition to what they've been wanting, but to others it will be overkill, and for them, can you understand that it is a disappointment? If not, that's okay, we can agree to disagree, but my gripe is that Nikon is eliminating the D700 line which filled a beautiful niche that worked perfectly for my photography, the D800 does not and in fact hinders my everyday workflow. If they come out with a D700s in addition to the D800, then I will no longer be disappointed ...Show more →
So build downsizing into your workflow. Or get a faster computer that won't be taxed; can't be that expensive. Or use your D700.
It's easier to throw away pixels than add them in later. So, while a 36MP camera can effectively be used as a 15MP camera, the opposite is not true.
lordarka wrote:
So build downsizing into your workflow. Or get a faster computer that won't be taxed; can't be that expensive. Or use your D700.
It's easier to throw away pixels than add them in later. So, while a 36MP camera can effectively be used as a 15MP camera, the opposite is not true.
Arka C.
Why? I don't need it and I don't want it, so why should I have to go through all that trouble. Yes, I will stick with the D700 and I won't feel I'm losing much over the D800 for my needs. The "disappointment" is that the D800 could have been another high ISO king, but Nikon chose to go with more MP at the sacrifice of better ISO, so yes, I am disappointed, but as I've said over and over, this camera will appeal to many, and that is great for them, it just does not appeal to me. I used to have a 5D Mark II that I ended up selling for another D700, and guess what, I never missed the extra MP and I suppose it will be the same with the D800.
I can wait until the D700 dies.