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p.3 #1 · Best way to do bracketing for HDR on 5D MK II?


apparently magic lantern doesn't yet work with canon firmware 2.1.1 .

And the following disclaimer is enough to dissuade me.

THIS IS DANGEROUS AND MIGHT DAMAGE YOUR CAMERA. NO WARRANTIES. NO GUARANTEES. DO NOT TAUNT. IF IT BREAKS, YOU GET TO KEEP BOTH PIECES.



Feb 07, 2012 at 10:24 AM
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p.3 #2 · Best way to do bracketing for HDR on 5D MK II?


jzucker wrote:
apparently magic lantern doesn't yet work with canon firmware 2.1.1 .

And the following disclaimer is enough to dissuade me.

THIS IS DANGEROUS AND MIGHT DAMAGE YOUR CAMERA. NO WARRANTIES. NO GUARANTEES. DO NOT TAUNT. IF IT BREAKS, YOU GET TO KEEP BOTH PIECES.


That's the old version. I was speaking more toward the Unified firmware.



Feb 07, 2012 at 10:46 AM
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p.3 #3 · Best way to do bracketing for HDR on 5D MK II?


jzucker wrote:
To me, promote control is too expensive considering that it doesn't have a display screen to do focusing on. dslrcontroller looks like a much better solution. But frankly, in the field, I'm not sure I want another external tethered device.


Agreed that the Promote Control is pretty spendy. I bought it prior to discovering DSLRController. The Promote tho works as advertised, is simple to understand/operate, is weather resistant, and is small enough so that you can just attached it (in it's carry case) to a tripod leg to keep it out of the way. Other than the lack of an image screen, the only fault I have with it is that when the USB cable is connected, I can't use the L bracket on my cam to put the cam in portrait orientation on a tripod.

The allure of using DSLRController for me would be to be able to use it with a medium sized tablet to get a good view of the image and lots of screen real estate to operate the software functions. Price wise - the app may be inexpensive (a huge bargain, actually), but I'll need to finally buy a tablet

ML looks terrific as well and I'm at the point where once it 'll work on 2.1.1 I'm gonna give it a try.

Good luck!



Feb 07, 2012 at 05:05 PM
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p.3 #4 · Best way to do bracketing for HDR on 5D MK II?


jzucker wrote:
apparently magic lantern doesn't yet work with canon firmware 2.1.1 .

And the following disclaimer is enough to dissuade me.

THIS IS DANGEROUS AND MIGHT DAMAGE YOUR CAMERA. NO WARRANTIES. NO GUARANTEES. DO NOT TAUNT. IF IT BREAKS, YOU GET TO KEEP BOTH PIECES.


That's another upside to external controllers but I'm pretty sure no one has ever come forth to complain that ML has bricked their machine. And I think that unified resides on the CF card and basically can't brick your machine (if something goes wrong, take out the card and hard boot the cam with the installed Canon software).

Cheers!



Feb 07, 2012 at 05:08 PM
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p.3 #5 · Best way to do bracketing for HDR on 5D MK II?


akclimber wrote:
the only fault I have with it is that when the USB cable is connected, I can't use the L bracket on my cam to put the cam in portrait orientation on a tripod.



Even with a right angle usb connector?



Feb 07, 2012 at 06:54 PM
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p.3 #6 · Best way to do bracketing for HDR on 5D MK II?


jzucker wrote:
Even with a right angle usb connector?


Well hmmm, I dunno. Didn't even know such a thing existed. I'll take a look. Thanks!



Feb 07, 2012 at 06:58 PM
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p.3 #7 · Best way to do bracketing for HDR on 5D MK II?


Honestly, it doesn't take much to add in exposure compensation to capture more brackets than Canon allows.

1. Set AEB to -2, 0, +2
2. Capture your -2, 0, and +2 EV exposures
3. Set compensation to +1 (or -1 if you prefer)
4. Capture your -1, +1, and +3 EV exposures (-3, -1, +1 EV exposures if you chose -1 in Step 3)

Seriously, how clumsy do you have to be that rotating your Rear Wheel dial shifts your tripod mounted camera so much that even Photomatix cannot correct it?

I think you guys are just obsessing over a problem that doesn't really exist. I take some of HDR handheld (Edit: I use a 7D, so Handheld is not a problem), and they come out fine.

Handheld Panoramic HDR (Bracketed -2, 0, +2 ... In 6 unique shots ... 18 exposures total)
http://farm5.staticflickr.com/4134/4912983327_999c0b148f_b.jpg

Handheld HDR (Bracketed -2, 0, +2)
http://farm5.staticflickr.com/4142/4887411724_822ec19a12_z.jpg

Edited on Feb 08, 2012 at 10:32 AM · View previous versions



Feb 08, 2012 at 10:17 AM
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p.3 #8 · Best way to do bracketing for HDR on 5D MK II?


thanks akin.


Feb 08, 2012 at 10:26 AM
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p.3 #9 · Best way to do bracketing for HDR on 5D MK II?


details on that Panoramic ? How did you photograph? What compensation / bracketing. thanks in advance.


Feb 08, 2012 at 10:28 AM
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p.3 #10 · Best way to do bracketing for HDR on 5D MK II?


jzucker wrote:
details on that Panoramic ? How did you photograph? What compensation / bracketing. thanks in advance.


Well the outline I posted above only works on a tripod. When shooting handheld you have to pre-configure your bracketing before pressing the shutter.

As for the shot in question. I used a 15-85mm mounted to my 7D. I got down on one knee and ensured I was as steady as I could be.

Capturing the shot:
I had bracketing set for -2, 0, +2 ... And I took the brackets in portrait orientation so I could capture enough land and sky. I then rotated about my knee and repeated the procedure 5 times (ensuring there was sufficient overlap for Photoshop to stitch correctly)

Post processing the shot:
So at the end of the day, I had 6 sets of brackets. I put in the first set into Photomatix and tonemapped as I saw fit. I saved the settings and applied them to the other 5 sets ... I then loaded the 6 tonemapped TIF pictures into Photoshop and merged/blended them accordingly.



Feb 08, 2012 at 10:39 AM
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p.3 #11 · Best way to do bracketing for HDR on 5D MK II?


Thanks for the details!


Feb 08, 2012 at 10:55 AM
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p.3 #12 · Best way to do bracketing for HDR on 5D MK II?


If you donate to the Magic Lantern 5DMkII guy, Alex, I forget the link.
You get a cool beta that works well.
I have been doing 9 shot brackets w/ one touch, works great for me.
I have not been too successful w/ the HDR video as yet.



Feb 08, 2012 at 12:24 PM
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p.3 #13 · Best way to do bracketing for HDR on 5D MK II?


This is correct.
I have had zero problems using ML Unified beta w/ my 5DMkII

akclimber wrote:
That's another upside to external controllers but I'm pretty sure no one has ever come forth to complain that ML has bricked their machine. And I think that unified resides on the CF card and basically can't brick your machine (if something goes wrong, take out the card and hard boot the cam with the installed Canon software).
Cheers!




Feb 08, 2012 at 12:29 PM
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p.3 #14 · Best way to do bracketing for HDR on 5D MK II?


Well, I want my camera to be (near) instant on. I don't want to have to have it boot from the CF card every time I turn it on.

buggz2k wrote:
This is correct.
I have had zero problems using ML Unified beta w/ my 5DMkII





Feb 08, 2012 at 01:01 PM
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p.3 #15 · Best way to do bracketing for HDR on 5D MK II?


buggz2k wrote:
This is correct.
I have had zero problems using ML Unified beta w/ my 5DMkII



Good to know! Thanks.



Feb 08, 2012 at 01:23 PM
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p.3 #16 · Best way to do bracketing for HDR on 5D MK II?


Shrug, I'm not certain I notice a lag.
I don't think it boots off the card, you do actually load an image into the camera.
The cleaning sensor message is currently displayed until a button is pushed, after turning on, is all that I know of.
And, of course, they are constantly working on this.
It may not be for everyone, but I enjoy it.
I remember back in the 'daze' using CHDK on my S3, was pretty cool stuff.

jzucker wrote:
Well, I want my camera to be (near) instant on. I don't want to have to have it boot from the CF card every time I turn it on.




Feb 08, 2012 at 01:43 PM
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p.3 #17 · Best way to do bracketing for HDR on 5D MK II?


if you overwrite the firmware in the camera there's always the possibility of bricking it.


Feb 08, 2012 at 01:52 PM
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p.3 #18 · Best way to do bracketing for HDR on 5D MK II?


Personally, I would not risk putting unauthorized firmware on my camera for something as inconsequential as bracketing, but to each their own.


Feb 08, 2012 at 02:20 PM
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p.3 #19 · Best way to do bracketing for HDR on 5D MK II?


akin_t wrote:
Personally, I would not risk putting unauthorized firmware on my camera for something as inconsequential as bracketing, but to each their own.


+1

Me neither. Just buy a sturdier tripod & shoot in Manual, or use AEB twice and touch the camera once to turn the rear dial so you get six different exposures



Feb 08, 2012 at 02:26 PM
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p.3 #20 · Best way to do bracketing for HDR on 5D MK II?


dhphoto wrote:
+1

Me neither. Just buy a sturdier tripod & shoot in Manual


Lol, I don't get it either. If simply touching your tripod-mounted camera ruins your sequence, then it's time to buy a new tripod.

I think some people already know this, but just enjoy the thrill of finding solutions to problems that don't exist.



Feb 08, 2012 at 02:28 PM
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