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p.8 #1 · Zeiss 35mm F2 vs Samyang 35mm F1.4


I'm curious if you add more contrast in the Roki shot in post, would it look more similar to the zeiss?

In terms of detail captured, they look equivalent in the above samples.



Feb 14, 2012 at 10:50 AM
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p.8 #2 · Zeiss 35mm F2 vs Samyang 35mm F1.4


FlyPenFly wrote:
I'm curious if you add more contrast in the Roki shot in post, would it look more similar to the zeiss?

In terms of detail captured, they look equivalent in the above samples.


You tell me? Of course, you can also sharpen/ manipulate the Zeiss even more as well.

http://www.gibranstudio.com/zeiss35z.jpg

http://www.gibranstudio.com/rok2.jpg



Feb 14, 2012 at 11:14 AM
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p.8 #3 · Zeiss 35mm F2 vs Samyang 35mm F1.4


Do you have any comparison about bokeh?


Feb 14, 2012 at 11:37 AM
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p.8 #4 · Zeiss 35mm F2 vs Samyang 35mm F1.4


Gianluke wrote:
Do you have any comparison about bokeh?


I don't have any direct comparisons. I did find the Rokinon bokeh very pleasing myself.



Feb 14, 2012 at 11:41 AM
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p.8 #5 · Zeiss 35mm F2 vs Samyang 35mm F1.4


Thanks Tariq, good to know.
I have my ZF 35/2 which I had for a long time and continue to use for landscape and then have C/Y 35/1.4 for shallower DOF stuff and some landscape. In the future I may get the ZE35/1.4.



Feb 14, 2012 at 02:05 PM
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p.8 #6 · Zeiss 35mm F2 vs Samyang 35mm F1.4


Do you like your ZF 35/2 for landscape Wayne?


Feb 14, 2012 at 02:43 PM
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p.8 #7 · Zeiss 35mm F2 vs Samyang 35mm F1.4


I have been using the 35/2 for two years and have found it to be an all round work horse. Two days ago a received a 35/1.4 ZE. I am really impressed. After a few comparison shots I have decided that the 35/2 will be sold this weekend.

I see the 35/1.4 as a excellent landscape lens, very sharp across the field when focused at infinity and has magical qualities wide open.



Feb 15, 2012 at 12:56 AM
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p.8 #8 · Zeiss 35mm F2 vs Samyang 35mm F1.4


Hi. About infinity focus distance is at hard stop on the Samyang too? I red on the Zeiss right infinity focus distance is to its rotation stop. On the Samyang it seems not


Feb 15, 2012 at 09:17 PM
Tariq Gibran
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p.8 #9 · Zeiss 35mm F2 vs Samyang 35mm F1.4


Gianluke wrote:
Hi. About infinity focus distance is at hard stop on the Samyang too? I red on the Zeiss right infinity focus distance is to its rotation stop. On the Samyang it seems not


Accurate infinity focus is not all the way at the infinity stop on the Samyang/ Rokinon unfortunately. On my ZF.2, 35/2, perfect infinity focus is right at the stop/ end of rotation. I don't know if that's the case with all ZF's though. For landscape use, having a hard stop for infinity does make things much easier.



Feb 15, 2012 at 09:45 PM
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p.8 #10 · Zeiss 35mm F2 vs Samyang 35mm F1.4


Tariq, now do you have both lenses?
Ultimately which one do you like more, especially for landscape?



Feb 16, 2012 at 07:27 AM
Tariq Gibran
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p.8 #11 · Zeiss 35mm F2 vs Samyang 35mm F1.4


Gianluke wrote:
Tariq, now do you have both lenses?
Ultimately which one do you like more, especially for landscape?


No, as I said above, FlyPenFly owns the the Rokinion I owned.

For stopped down landscapes, I prefer the Zeiss due to the increased out of camera contrast and the infinity hard stop. I also prefer it's smaller size and physical, aesthetic qualities when using the lens.

That said, for someone who wants both a very fast, F 1.4 lens AND shoots landscape, a little bit of post processing/ tweaking of the Rokinon files, as shown above, can pretty much negate the contrast differences. Ultimately, I don't think you could go wrong with either lens.



Feb 16, 2012 at 07:57 AM
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p.8 #12 · Zeiss 35mm F2 vs Samyang 35mm F1.4


Thank you very much Tariq. I will decide in a couples of days. I have two friends which sell both lenses as used mint. Rokinon at 350 euro, zeiss at 475 euro (ZS mount)


Feb 16, 2012 at 08:43 AM
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p.8 #13 · Zeiss 35mm F2 vs Samyang 35mm F1.4


Tariq, just last question. Can you post for me two landscape shots with Zeiss at f 5.6 and f8 with 100 % crop (center and corner)?


Feb 17, 2012 at 03:13 PM
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p.8 #14 · Zeiss 35mm F2 vs Samyang 35mm F1.4


Gianluke wrote:
Tariq, just last question. Can you post for me two landscape shots with Zeiss at f 5.6 and f8 with 100 % crop (center and corner)?


Scroll down a little on this page to see F8 crops of a distant scene.

https://www.fredmiranda.com/forum/topic/1078830/1



Feb 17, 2012 at 03:48 PM
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p.8 #15 · Zeiss 35mm F2 vs Samyang 35mm F1.4


FWIW i've just done another very quick side by side comparison on the ZE35 and a late E55 Elmarit-r both near infinity.

The center resolution of the elmarit is astonishing, fine detail rendering is amazing and from what I can tell is a step up from the ZE35, BUT the elmarit loses the battle in toe corners and is very soft in corners at f5.6.

I'm going to go out tomorrow and compare the ZE35, Elmarit 35 and Oly 35mm shift at f5.6, f8 and f11.

Looks like the Elmarit may be returned after all.



Feb 18, 2012 at 07:42 AM
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p.8 #16 · Zeiss 35mm F2 vs Samyang 35mm F1.4


BTW this doesn't mean I dont like the ZE, i love it for closer work.
Im just not sure MY COPY cuts the mustard for infinity landscape work.



Feb 18, 2012 at 07:45 AM
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p.8 #17 · Zeiss 35mm F2 vs Samyang 35mm F1.4


Did you compare ZE35/2 with Summicron 35/2?


Feb 18, 2012 at 07:48 AM
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p.8 #18 · Zeiss 35mm F2 vs Samyang 35mm F1.4


No, don't have a summicron to test.
I've tested again today and the lighting wasn't too easy (very contrasty with either blown highlights or very dark shadows), but found the results closer today with the Zeiss performing a bit better.

The difference - I've focussed the Zeiss with LV and then used the DOF preview button to stop down the lens while focussing (I'm assuming regardless of the aperture setting in camera that LV works wide open).

If it's performing a bit better now does this mean the Zeiss has focus shift



Feb 19, 2012 at 11:59 AM
Tariq Gibran
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p.8 #19 · Zeiss 35mm F2 vs Samyang 35mm F1.4


johnahill wrote:
No, don't have a summicron to test.
I've tested again today and the lighting wasn't too easy (very contrasty with either blown highlights or very dark shadows), but found the results closer today with the Zeiss performing a bit better.

The difference - I've focussed the Zeiss with LV and then used the DOF preview button to stop down the lens while focussing (I'm assuming regardless of the aperture setting in camera that LV works wide open).

If it's performing a bit better now does this mean the Zeiss has focus shift


I have not noticed focus shift with my ZF.2 35/2 but what I did find is that nailing the exact focus point, particularly at infinity, with it is extremely critical, perhaps more so than some other lenses.



Feb 19, 2012 at 12:04 PM
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p.8 #20 · Zeiss 35mm F2 vs Samyang 35mm F1.4


Tariq, do you think the Zeiss has infinity hard stop with M42 mount too?


Feb 23, 2012 at 05:50 AM
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