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p.2 #1 · Canon's eye controlled focus (ECF)


I used it a lot on my EOS3. A very useful feature IMO & I would welcome its return.


Jun 21, 2011 at 04:22 AM
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p.2 #2 · Canon's eye controlled focus (ECF)


Worked well for me on an Elan 7e. They'll probably reintroduce it to distinguish between two price points when they run out of other ideas. Maybe, buried deep in the present software, the ECF sleeps, just waiting to be unlocked.


Jun 21, 2011 at 05:02 AM
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EB-1 wrote:
ECF never worked for me one either of my pair of EOS 3 bodies. It was always off enough to give me a headache after a while.

EBH


Eye Strain was the reason Canon's legal department had the ECF removed.
I live near Canon HQ and "Eye Strain" was the reason I received from a Canon executive while at the local shop.

Another win for the attorneys.



Jun 21, 2011 at 06:37 AM
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p.2 #4 · Canon's eye controlled focus (ECF)


I would love it back... lets face it - all the bodies have lots of stuff a lot of people never use so what's one more - just turn it off if it's not your thing.

It sure has a lot more functionality then a damn print button :-/



Jun 21, 2011 at 09:20 AM
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p.2 #5 · Canon's eye controlled focus (ECF)


I'd love to have ECF back. Definitely a feature that shouldn't have been shelved.



Jun 21, 2011 at 09:31 AM
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Psychic1 wrote:
Eye Strain was the reason Canon's legal department had the ECF removed.
I live near Canon HQ and "Eye Strain" was the reason I received from a Canon executive while at the local shop.

Another win for the attorneys.


This doesn't make any sense. You still look at the focus point you want to use now as you use the joystick to highlight it... bizarre.

I've got an EOS 3 and the ECF work surprisingly well. Well it did until I thought I would calibrate it... it's not as accurate now



Jun 21, 2011 at 09:41 AM
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Philip Mc wrote:
It works great for me on my eos3.....if it was easy enough to implement in a digital body then why not put it there, I mean we had the direct print button for long enough and by all accounts very few used that!


I agree, this button is so redudant. It is something you will have plenty of time to do and could be buried deep within the menu



Jun 21, 2011 at 09:41 AM
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p.2 #8 · Canon's eye controlled focus (ECF)


EBH

This doesn't make any sense. You still look at the focus point you want to use now as you use the joystick to highlight it... bizarre.

I've got an EOS 3 and the ECF work surprisingly well. Well it did until I thought I would calibrate it... it's not as accurate now


It does not take many complaints for a product liability insurance carrier to cancel a policy.

I got the info from Canon and they probally agree with you but their legal counsel did not.



Jun 21, 2011 at 10:21 AM
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p.2 #9 · Canon's eye controlled focus (ECF)


Because Nikon don't have something similar.





Jun 22, 2011 at 08:01 AM
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I enjoyed it on my Elan IIe and also wondered why it was discontinued. On the original Elan, I believe they had a bar code scanner and you got a book of bar codes. The bar codes were different settings, like the pic settings on the rebels. That didn't seem very popular and is long gone also.


Jun 22, 2011 at 01:14 PM
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It worked for me too. This comes up every now and then, and I don't know why they didn't continue it either. The idea that it was because it 'didn't work' would be strange as it clearly did for many. Most early innovations such as auto focus, didn't work well when they first came out.

Had they kept it and perservered with the technology who knows how good it might be now. People who didn't want or like it could simply not use it much like many of the additions to cameras now.



Jun 22, 2011 at 01:50 PM
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jaybrams wrote:
I enjoyed it on my Elan IIe and also wondered why it was discontinued. On the original Elan, I believe they had a bar code scanner and you got a book of bar codes. The bar codes were different settings, like the pic settings on the rebels. That didn't seem very popular and is long gone also.


Yes, I remember that dumb barcode scanner. I actually owned one. The canned settings in the booklet were lame but you could create your own custom settings, convert them into barcodes and print them yourself. Sorta a forerunner of C1, C2, C3 user settings on modern DSLRs. I still have AI servo, continuos advance, F2.8, & partial metering saved on my 1991 Elan...



Jun 22, 2011 at 05:30 PM
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Old thread....but I happened to come by my Canon Elan 7E yesterday when I was reorganizing my storage.

Brought back some old memories.

I miss the ECF feature in the DSLRs. It worked perfectly for me in the Elan. I even calibrated it a couple of times and the operation was spot on after every calibration.

I hope Canon brings it back.



Aug 31, 2011 at 02:16 PM
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p.2 #14 · Canon's eye controlled focus (ECF)


I want it back as well (used it on an Elan 7e)...


Aug 31, 2011 at 03:42 PM
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p.2 #15 · Canon's eye controlled focus (ECF)


I thought is was cool on my Elan. It did hurt a bit to have to make a wide bug eye in order zoom though.


Aug 31, 2011 at 03:53 PM
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Ghost wrote:
Hi,
Years ago, Canon had this really neat focus system in the EOS 3. You basically look where you want to focus on and the camera will focus there. From what I read, it is very accurate too.

Why is Canon not implementing this on its digital SLRs? Even the 1d-series doesn't have it. Instead we'd have to manually select the focusing points.


Accurate for some people maybe, but I found it just awful in the EOS 3, always being off by a square or so. Like a fool I kept one of my EOS 3 bodies for posterity, but the lack of diopter necessitated by the rotten ECF makes it useless for my eyes today.

EBH



Aug 31, 2011 at 08:41 PM
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p.2 #17 · Canon's eye controlled focus (ECF)


Another lost feature I'd like to see brought back is true "DEP" focus. "A-DEP" is a dumbed down version of it.

While it's true that LiveView likely provides better precision results, it takes more time, and I'd bet that "DEP" would find its niche in the newer bodies.

Any folks want to weigh-in on this piece of Canon body function history?



Aug 31, 2011 at 11:13 PM
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p.2 #18 · Canon's eye controlled focus (ECF)


The aperture would need to be appropriate to the pixel pitch. Back in the day the apertures were wider based on an assumption of lower system resolution and smaller print sizes.

EBH



Sep 01, 2011 at 12:00 AM
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p.2 #19 · Canon's eye controlled focus (ECF)


Had it, loved it, no eye strain. I would buy a camera with it again.


Sep 01, 2011 at 12:55 AM
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p.2 #20 · Canon's eye controlled focus (ECF)


I had it on my EOS 5 (EOS A2 in the USA). I used it, liked it, but indeed using it often caused eye strain to me.
I would like to have it available again, but I don't blame Canon for removing it.



Sep 01, 2011 at 02:41 AM
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