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Archive 2009 · Domke F-4AF, F3X question

  
 
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p.1 #1 · Domke F-4AF, F3X question


I am after a new bag that fits my D700 with attached 24-70 2,8 and 70-200 2,8 VR and some extra equipment. I have settled for the Domke F-4Af or the F3X. Both seems to be great bags and I want the bag to be to small as possible, and still fit my gear well.

So the question:

Will the F3X hold the Nikon 70-200 VR without any trouble with lenshood reversed, or should I go with the taller F4AF. Will the F4AF hold a D700 with 70-200 2,8 attached?





Feb 21, 2009 at 11:37 AM
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p.1 #2 · Domke F-4AF, F3X question


I have the F3x and I can barely cram a D200 gripped w/ 17-55 (hood reversed) and a Nikon 80-200 (w/ hood reversed) in the bag and the 70-200 is even taller. I'd say you need something bigger than the F3x. I bought the F3x when I had the gripped D200, 18-70, and 50 1.8, and 85 1.4 and it all fit fine including sb-800 in side pocket.
With the upgrade to 17-55 and adding the 80-200 I now use a Thinktank SW Harddrive backpack, not really a "shooter" bag per se like the Domke's but it holds all my stuff.
I do need a new shooter bag, so I'll probably start looking at the Domkes again.
You know....there's no "ultimate" bag



Feb 21, 2009 at 02:31 PM
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p.1 #3 · Domke F-4AF, F3X question


I've got both bags. The biggest difference is the f3-x has two sewn-in lens sleeves in its main compartment, while the f4-af has removeable inserts. So, the f4-af is both slightly larger (height and width/depth) and more flexible. Reversed/mounted lens hoods (sorry I'm not familiar with the Nikon glass) are problematic with the f3-x. In practical terms, there isn't much difference in the feel of carrying either of these 2 bags, but the f4-af can be heavier because of its increased capacity.

As an aside, there also seem to be some construction differences between the f3-x canvas and nylon versions. In the nylon bag the lens sleeves don't extend all the way to the bottom of the main compartment, for whatever reason, and since the nylon bag does have an extra lining layer, it's a bit smaller internally, too.

You'll find some pics, with gear loaded, here: www.cambags.com



Feb 21, 2009 at 04:58 PM
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p.1 #4 · Domke F-4AF, F3X question


Stupid question, how do I see if its canvas or nylon version?


Feb 21, 2009 at 08:35 PM
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p.1 #5 · Domke F-4AF, F3X question


From the B&H website:

http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/15987-REG/Domke_700_F3B_F_3X_Balliastic_Shoulder_Bag.html

http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/15986-REG/Domke_700_30B_F_3X_Shoulder_Bag_Black_.html




Feb 21, 2009 at 10:14 PM
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p.1 #6 · Domke F-4AF, F3X question


jlw82 wrote:
Stupid question, how do I see if its canvas or nylon version?


Some are only available in canvas, some only in nylon, and some can be had either way. I prefer the canvas because they break-in nicely, and can be washed. In fact, I run mine through the washer and dryer a few times when brand new, just to get them softer and a bit worn. As mentioned in the post above this one, the nylon bags are listed as "ballistic" by the vendors. I think the nylon bags are only available in black, while the canvas are available in black, sand, navy blue, and olive green. Either way, Domke bags seem to last forever, and get better with age.



Feb 22, 2009 at 02:00 AM
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p.1 #7 · Domke F-4AF, F3X question


I just got a F4-AF. I can put my AFS 300mm f/4 lens in it. (i think it's comparable in size to the 70-200mm). I can also put a 85mm f/1.4D mounted to my D200 and several other lenses. However one of the problems is that with the increased girth of the 300mm lens, it pushes the second lens insert inward. This will be a problem if you want to carry another bulkier lens. For smaller lenses it should be fine.




Feb 22, 2009 at 07:40 AM
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p.1 #8 · Domke F-4AF, F3X question


stompyq.. what do you think about the nikon 70-200 2,8 and 24-70 2,8 attached to a d700.. Wil I have this problem?


Feb 22, 2009 at 08:31 AM
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p.1 #9 · Domke F-4AF, F3X question


This is the canvas?

http://www.adorama.com/DMF4AFOL.html?searchinfo=F-4AF&item_no=1



Feb 22, 2009 at 09:10 AM
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p.1 #10 · Domke F-4AF, F3X question


Yes.


Feb 22, 2009 at 09:41 AM
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p.1 #11 · Domke F-4AF, F3X question


And another question, what is the benefits of canvas instead of the nylon?


Feb 22, 2009 at 09:43 AM
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p.1 #12 · Domke F-4AF, F3X question


jlw82 wrote:
stompyq.. what do you think about the nikon 70-200 2,8 and 24-70 2,8 attached to a d700.. Wil I have this problem?



I think you should be fine with those two lenses and the D700 with a little bit of room to grow. I don't own either of those lenses however so (or a D700) so mine is a educated guess. Be warned



Feb 22, 2009 at 09:53 AM
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p.1 #13 · Domke F-4AF, F3X question


jlw82 wrote:
And another question, what is the benefits of canvas instead of the nylon?


The canvas moulds to the body, looks better (less like a camera bag) can be washed, ages better and lasts forever. The nylon one looks camera bagish, looks ugly is uncomfortable to carry etc etc. Really the whole point of a domke is the canvas. If your looking at the nylon one i think you should look at the Thinktank UD series (either a UD35 or UD40)



Feb 22, 2009 at 09:55 AM
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p.1 #14 · Domke F-4AF, F3X question


I agree, mostly. My only nylon Domke bag is their J-1, but I'd be so much happier if it was available in canvas. I don't think the J-1 will wear any faster than one of their canvas bags, though, because of the thickness/quality of the nylon, and it is very soft and conformable, too. I just don't like the look and feel of the black nylon, that it can't be thrown in the washer, and won't ever get that faded/broken-in look. I like my gear to look new and my bag to look old


Feb 22, 2009 at 10:02 AM
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p.1 #15 · Domke F-4AF, F3X question


Thanks for the answers.

"Shipping: Currently, item can be shipped only within the U.S."

Bah!



Feb 22, 2009 at 10:06 AM
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p.1 #16 · Domke F-4AF, F3X question


Anyone thinks that this is a good deal?
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=360107046075&category=64336&_trksid=p3907.m263&_trkparms=algo%3DSI%26its%3DI%26itu%3DUCI%26otn%3D15%26po%3DLVI%26ps%3D54

I hope the url works. If not tell me.

Is that the canvas version or the nylon? For me it looks like the canvas.

And I cant figure out, if its free shipping world wide or not. I have mailed, but did't get any responds, yet.



Feb 28, 2009 at 07:36 PM
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p.1 #17 · Domke F-4AF, F3X question


Looks like a reasonable deal, and the picture is of the canvas bag. Looks like the shipping is free worldwide, too, but I'm not sure.


Feb 28, 2009 at 07:43 PM
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p.1 #18 · Domke F-4AF, F3X question


I will wait until he is replying and then order. I will reply how it went


Feb 28, 2009 at 07:52 PM
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p.1 #19 · Domke F-4AF, F3X question


If you click on Country: Sweden in the Shipping part of his listing and then "Update", it states that the shipping is Free.
It looks like the canvas one. I think the F3XB is the ballistic one, but I would wait to see if you get a response to know for sure.



Feb 28, 2009 at 09:29 PM
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p.1 #20 · Domke F-4AF, F3X question


Well. I read on a forum that he is selling FAKES Domke bags.

Damn. It was to good to be true.

more info here:
http://www.tiffen.com/domke_buyers_beware.html


Anyone aware of any other Ebay user or Hongkong store that sells Domke bags?


edit:

found this:
http://www.tincheungcamera.com.hk/advanced_search_result.php?keywords=domke+f3x&search_in_description=0&x=0&y=0



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