p.1 #1 · Will the newest version of photoshop run legacy camera raw plugin (12.2.1)??
I can't stand the "new" (actually been around for like like 3 years now!) design for CameraRAW, but would like to use the newest features of Photoshop-- I'll have to upgrade my OSX to use it but dont want to go through all that if I can't use the older, superior version of CameraRAW.
So I'm asking for someone with the latest version of PS on a Mac to install an old version of CameraRAW, and see if they will work together.
p.1 #3 · Will the newest version of photoshop run legacy camera raw plugin (12.2.1)??
Windows here, not MAC. I've saved every version of Camera RAW for the past 3 years. Until the latest version of Photoshop, old version of CR worked OK. But now old version will launch and allow all features to work, but won't pass the converted file back to Photoshop. When you try to exit CR, Photoshop launches but no image appears.
Easy work around. Just save the image from within CR as a 16bit tif and open that tif in Photoshop.
But why are you afraid to try it yourself? It's a simple test.
p.1 #4 · Will the newest version of photoshop run legacy camera raw plugin (12.2.1)??
I can't try it as I'm running an older version of OSX-- I can't upgrade to the latest version of photoshop. It gives me some hope that it works on Windows though.
My workflow depends on CR 12.2.1, if I upgrade my OS and can't use it I'd be screwed, Apple doesn't let you downgrade the OS, once you go up you are stuck there.
p.1 #5 · Will the newest version of photoshop run legacy camera raw plugin (12.2.1)??
On my Mac I am unable to delete (or manage in any way) Adobe Camera Raw. I could not find a way to do it using the Adobe Creative Cloud interface, and the documentation says that ACR is a plugin, required by both Photoshop and Lightroom and cannot therefore be deleted.
Here's the interface from Adobe Creative Cloud. Note that there is no button to the right of ACR: no way to uninstall, upgrade, etc.
Even after deleting both Photoshop and Lightroom, Adobe Camera Raw remains.
I found some older instructions for an Adobe tool which may have once let you manage this issue, but it appears to be obsolete and won't work for me. Reluctant to start removing libraries and directories by hand, I gave up.
Apparently Adobe Camera Raw is being gradually re-written to rely more on GPU than CPU - and older CPUs are being rendered obsolete. With the latest update of Photoshop, the graphics card in my 2017 iMac has been killed off: ACR no longer works at all, except that it allows me to convert raw or DNG files and open them in Photoshop or Lightroom. All ACR features themselves, are hidden and a message tells me that my CPU is no longer supported.
I hoped to go back to an earlier version but that doesn't seem possible. The only solution is to get off Adobe products or buy a newer GPU, or a machine with a newer GPU.
p.1 #6 · Will the newest version of photoshop run legacy camera raw plugin (12.2.1)??
Kenneth Lee wrote:
I hoped to go back to an earlier version but that doesn't seem possible.
Kenneth you can only update to the latest version of ACR in CC-- use the download links I provided in the first post here for an old version, you can't and don't need to uninstall it at any time, the install DNG will overwrite the necessary files.
p.1 #7 · Will the newest version of photoshop run legacy camera raw plugin (12.2.1)??
First, I followed your instructions and installed ACR 12.2.1 and it works. It takes up the entire screen with no menu controls along the top - and it has an (understandably) limited feature set, but they work. And you can save the file as Photoshop, TIFF, etc.
Interestingly, the Adobe Creative Cloud application looks the same as before.
Next, I followed the link to the page which contains 2 more recent versions: 14.5 and 16.
After installing version 14.5, a newer version comes up fine, with more features. The features work and you get the menu items along the top of the screen, along with the ability to size the application window. Pretty slick !!
Again, the Adobe Creative Cloud window is unchanged with no indication of version number or any controls for update/uninstall etc.
Finally, I installed version 16.0 and that works fine too. It appears to be very recent, since it has the Lens Blur feature - but not so recent as the version from last week which rendered my GPU obsolete.
Again, the Adobe Creative Cloud window is unchanged.
Well well well ! You just saved me from running out and buying a new computer and monitor under duress. As long as I keep Adobe Camera Raw 16.0, I can continue as before.
p.1 #8 · Will the newest version of photoshop run legacy camera raw plugin (12.2.1)??
Adobe Creative Cloud just auto-updated my instance of Camera Raw, from 16.0 to 16.0.1 and for whatever reason, it doesn't complain about my older GPU. It runs fine.
p.1 #9 · Will the newest version of photoshop run legacy camera raw plugin (12.2.1)??
Kenneth Lee wrote:
it works
Good to know it's software compatible(and glad this somehow got the newest version to work for you), but it would be better to know if it will work for someone running a M1/2/3 chip, any takers?
p.1 #10 · Will the newest version of photoshop run legacy camera raw plugin (12.2.1)??
extss wrote:
Good to know it's software compatible(and glad this somehow got the newest version to work for you), but it would be better to know if it will work for someone running a M1/2/3 chip, any takers?
I have the latest versions of LrC and PS. I don’t ever recall newer versions of LrC/ACR not opening older files. I can’t remember why but the other day why I opened a file from 2010 in ACR. I’ll try your file on my M1 when I get home.
p.1 #11 · Will the newest version of photoshop run legacy camera raw plugin (12.2.1)??
OK. Got home sooner than expected. As expected I was able to open a Canon 30D file from 2007 on both my Intel and M1 - Mac devices. Do you still need me to download files?
p.1 #12 · Will the newest version of photoshop run legacy camera raw plugin (12.2.1)??
Zenon Char wrote:
OK. Got home sooner than expected. As expected I was able to open a Canon 30D file from 2007 on both my Intel and M1 - Mac devices. Do you still need me to download files?
After 12.2.1 Adobe changed the user interface of the plugin (it's much, much worse in the new UI). Though of course a number of masking and other new AI options are not available, all of the features I need for my professional work are there, and it is overall much faster and more intuitive to use in my opinion.
If you try it out and it works, compare how the crop tool operates, and how you use the little icons on the right side to flip through the tools rather than the Lightroom style stacked dropdowns-- in the 12x and older style you can access any of the tools quickly, with the new versions you have to scroll up and down, they are always in a different location so you have to really LOOK to find them, in the old style they are just -there- and I dont have to think so much, it takes less time / clicks to get things done, and there is more screen space for the image (Adobe thinks people want to look at their crappy new UI instead of their own images i guess??).
p.1 #13 · Will the newest version of photoshop run legacy camera raw plugin (12.2.1)??
I imagine that Adobe has a real challenge in having to maintain both Photoshop an Lightroom at the same time they keep up - and even lead - in the world of new "AI" features. (All software is AI but that's another topic).
Given that their many other tools are built from the same overlapping library of functions, the problem is even greater.
With ever more features, there's a danger that the tools become... cluttered. Never mind the underlying code, it's an interesting problem of user interface design.
After 12.2.1 Adobe changed the user interface of the plugin (it's much, much worse in the new UI). Though of course a number of masking and other new AI options are not available, all of the features I need for my professional work are there, and it is overall much faster and more intuitive to use in my opinion.
If you try it out and it works, compare how the crop tool operates, and how you use the little icons on the right side to flip through the tools rather than the Lightroom style stacked dropdowns-- in the 12x and older style you can access any of the tools quickly, with the new versions you have to scroll up and down, they are always in a different location so you have to really LOOK to find them, in the old style they are just -there- and I dont have to think so much, it takes less time / clicks to get things done, and there is more screen space for the image (Adobe thinks people want to look at their crappy new UI instead of their own images i guess??). ...Show more →
I worked in manufacturing for 35 years and this is the most important thing I've learned during those years. Most people don't like change Neither do I depending on what is but I could never get away from it. Sometimes it was very welcome. Over time Adobe merged how LrC and ACR worked so users could share the same presets, etc between the two. PS being more advanced ACR might have not needed to be as complex but I guess that was their path.
p.1 #16 · Will the newest version of photoshop run legacy camera raw plugin (12.2.1)??
The OP says "I'll have to upgrade my OSX to use it but dont want to go through all that if I can't use the older, superior version of CameraRAW.".
He doesn't want to upgrade his operating system if, after he does, there is no way to run his preferred version of Adobe Camera Raw. Reverting to an older version of MacOS is no picnic.
p.1 #17 · Will the newest version of photoshop run legacy camera raw plugin (12.2.1)??
Kenneth Lee wrote:
With ever more features, there's a danger that the tools become... cluttered. Never mind the underlying code, it's an interesting problem of user interface design.
It's a problem, and it's one that Adobe has failed at solving, the old interface is clearly superior if you are working with a high volume of images. I tried for hours to get into the new one, and it really is a big step backwards as far as UI. Some of the new features would be nice (though most really do not apply to my professional work), but they could be integrated into the old UI in a less cluttered and more efficient way. Both designs could be more space efficient, but the new version wastes an incredible amount of screen space in the filmstrip (when you have multiple images loaded) and ratings bars, it's probably fine if you have a full size monitor but it is awful on a 16" macbook, I can't imagine how little of my images vs the UI I'd be seeing on a 13".
The new UI is clearly working towards integrating LR & ACR, and at the same time moving towards mobile (phone / tablet) integration as well (can be seen in the crop functionality the most). The dropdown interface aesthetically looks better or is kind of more fun to use, so maybe it scored higher for people that tested it for that reason, but it's absolutely slower vs the little icon system of 12.2 and earlier.
Neither do I depending on what is but I could never get away from it. Sometimes it was very welcome. Over time Adobe merged how LrC and ACR worked so users could share the same presets, etc between the two. PS being more advanced ACR might have not needed to be as complex but I guess that was their path.