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Archive 2023 · 9/10/11mm vs 15+ mm?

  
 
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p.1 #1 · 9/10/11mm vs 15+ mm?


What is your opinion of 9~11mm VS 15mm & above ultra wide lens? Currently got Tamron 17-28mm f2.8, is it really worth to sell the Tamron to get below?


Laowa 9mm f5.6 FF-RL
Laowa 10-18mm f4.5-5.6 FE C-Dreamer
Laowa 11mm f4.5



Jan 16, 2023 at 08:12 PM
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p.1 #2 · 9/10/11mm vs 15+ mm?


17mm isn't quite wide enough for me. so i went with 15mm. 9mm-11mm is too wide for me. i'm not sure what 15mm and above means in the poll as i like 15 but want wider than 17.


Jan 16, 2023 at 08:38 PM
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p.1 #3 · 9/10/11mm vs 15+ mm?


What did you think of the several responses people posted in your original post? You didn’t respond in that thread.

I predict that 99% of people in this poll will choose 15mm +. Like I and others said in your other thread, Ultra wide angles are to be used sparingly. You don’t want to sell your 17-28 for one. Adding one to your arsenal is fine, but not if it’s going to be your only wide option.



Jan 16, 2023 at 08:40 PM
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p.1 #4 · 9/10/11mm vs 15+ mm?


I don't shoot a lot of ultrawide, so listen to others with more experience. I have the Sony 12-24 f/4 G. In my opinion a zoom is very useful for the ultrawide range. As you get wider and wider each mm gets dramatically wider. So a zoom allows you to change composition easily. My personal comfort zone for wideness is around 16mm+. I don't think I would have much interest in the 9mm-11mm range, it's just too wide for me.


Jan 16, 2023 at 08:40 PM
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p.1 #5 · 9/10/11mm vs 15+ mm?


The usefulness of extreme focal lengths entirely depends on what subjects you shoot. For architecture and especially interiors, ultra wides can be the only way to achieve what you need in a single image. Of course you can use pano stitching techniques but that comes with its own set of issues and limitations.


Jan 16, 2023 at 08:53 PM
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p.1 #6 · 9/10/11mm vs 15+ mm?


Maybe rent the Sony 12-24 f4 for a few days and do some shooting? My UWA is the Sigma 14-24, and I'm pretty happy with 14 being my widest. But I know some people really like having the option to 12mm. If that isn't wide enough, then I guess you're in the 9/10mm range.

The wider the lens, the more challenging it can become to compose and create a meaningful shot. You have to start making sure your tripod legs aren't in the frame (more if composing portrait orientation), or even your feet if they are large.

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Jan 16, 2023 at 08:56 PM
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p.1 #7 · 9/10/11mm vs 15+ mm?


I have a great CV15 w/ the petals removed. Small, light, build quality, great sun-stars and IQ

I had the Sony 12-24 and I learned that I don't compose wider then 15 so I sold it

Had the Tamron 17-28 and Sigma 16-28 .. both fine but for the wider range I find my CV is better



Jan 16, 2023 at 09:08 PM
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p.1 #8 · 9/10/11mm vs 15+ mm?


voted 15mm. I have one but seldom used.

But (based on this and another thread) I have a feeling that OP just wants other's support in getting a 9mm so yeah go get one and have fun.

9mm is way to wide for me, I'd rather have a fisheye lens.



Jan 16, 2023 at 09:55 PM
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p.1 #9 · 9/10/11mm vs 15+ mm?


I posted this link in the other thread that I started a couple months ago about my love for the CV 10mm:

https://www.fredmiranda.com/forum/topic/1784308/0?keyword=Ode#16102576



Jan 16, 2023 at 11:20 PM
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p.1 #10 · 9/10/11mm vs 15+ mm?


My main wide lenses for landscape / city scape and architecture are the Zeiss Loxia 21 and Sony 16-35 G PZ, but I often find use for wider lenses. I often photograph narrow forests with falling trees, where I like using the Laowa 9mm f/5.6 RL. Sometimes, I use it for architecture as well. But the scenes and compositions have to be cherry-picked to actually work. I use the Sony 14 GM and Sony 24 GM as well when I need the speed. Some choose 12/14-24 over 16-35, but I rather go for the widest and then add a 16-35. I would consider the Laowa 11mm f/4.5 if you want to use circular filters. I don't use filters enough and wanted even wider, so I went for the 9mm. 11mm pairs nicely with 16/17.


Jan 17, 2023 at 02:14 AM
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p.1 #11 · 9/10/11mm vs 15+ mm?


Nobody can tell you what focal length you like to shoot, it’s too personal a thing,

One thing you can do is search sites like flicker with the focal lengths (or lenses) you are considering, have a look at the images you think suit your type of photography and you will have the opportunity to shoot and make a decision from there,
Do you use filters? Filters for wider than 16mm can be problematic.



Jan 17, 2023 at 10:37 AM
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p.1 #12 · 9/10/11mm vs 15+ mm?


jeffbuzz wrote:
The usefulness of extreme focal lengths entirely depends on what subjects you shoot. For architecture and especially interiors, ultra wides can be the only way to achieve what you need in a single image. Of course you can use pano stitching techniques but that comes with its own set of issues and limitations.


And for deliberately distorting the scene to emphasis one aspect or another. Exactly what I use the Laowa 12mm for (I love that lens but it is really a beast - nearly 1 kg with the Shift Adapter, which makes it a 17mm). It's brilliant for Shanghai's wacky flyovers

In general use 15mm is plenty and I do use it a lot.



Jan 17, 2023 at 02:07 PM
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p.1 #13 · 9/10/11mm vs 15+ mm?


Frogfish wrote:
And for deliberately distorting the scene to emphasis one aspect or another. Exactly what I use the Laowa 12mm for (I love that lens but it is really a beast - nearly 1 kg with the Shift Adapter, which makes it a 17mm). It's brilliant for Shanghai's wacky flyovers

In general use 15mm is plenty and I do use it a lot.


Yes, it is funny how super wide lenses can be used for totally opposite effect. Anything in the 12mm range definitely takes extra care in framing to be sure you have the effect you really want. I've accidentally included my own feet on a number of occasions.



Jan 17, 2023 at 02:55 PM
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p.1 #14 · 9/10/11mm vs 15+ mm?


Had the Laowa 9mm. It was great for taking interior photos of my rental property for a listing. Thats about it, though. It made the house seem like it was twice the size that it actually was, haha.

Sold it, and bought the 15mm. I take the 15mm on vacation, shoot it 75% of the time in crop mode. But am thankful I have the 15 for those special situations.

I've never missed the 9mm. It's just too wide.




Jan 18, 2023 at 11:02 AM
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p.1 #15 · 9/10/11mm vs 15+ mm?


Having a 15mm (Voigtlander) is about as wide as I'll ever need. My next widest lens would be the 21mm Loxia. For me this is a useful wide combo.


Jan 18, 2023 at 11:43 AM
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p.1 #16 · 9/10/11mm vs 15+ mm?



I think the general guidance I gave in your other thread is holding here.

https://www.fredmiranda.com/forum/topic/1791625/0#16145237



Jan 18, 2023 at 12:01 PM





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