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p.1 #1 · Tony Northrup Canon Expo summary...


I enjoyed this quick recap video by Tony from the Canon Expo....I really can't remember a time Canon pre-announced/previewed such an array of drool-worthy things in one expo....




Sep 17, 2015 at 08:05 AM
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Guess I should have attended.

Makes you wonder, though, to what extent Canon is increasingly focusing on the very high end of the business and less focused on the consumer market where most of us reside.

Despite us saying Sony is leading this business right now with its innovations, maybe what's happening is that Sony is playing the game from the bottom up while Canon is playing from the top down, when it comes to customer targeting.



Sep 17, 2015 at 08:20 AM
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Maybe...but Sony is now playing at a very expensive level also. A7RII is $4000CDN...that is just crazy to me but I guess it is on par with a good FF DSLR it is just the rapid devaluation of Sony products that has stopped me from getting one yet....

Canon will still keep producing good stuff for the avg consumer like bringing M3 to the US market. A new 6D2 and SL2 are supposed to be coming very soon so I think Canon is still producing on both ends.

That 600 DO is so drool-worthy...it is beyond comprehension



Sep 17, 2015 at 08:30 AM
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This is the company lagging so far behind they were being called dinosaurs.

Canon know what they are doing and who their market is - probably not for endless cheap compacts so much now but they'll still make plenty of cameras and photo gear that sells gazillions



Sep 17, 2015 at 08:32 AM
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dhphoto wrote:
Canon know what they are doing and who their market is - probably not for endless cheap compacts so much now but they'll still make plenty of cameras and photo gear that sells gazillions


- don't let the Sony fanboys here you say that!



Sep 17, 2015 at 10:55 AM
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arbitrage wrote:
Maybe...but Sony is now playing at a very expensive level also. A7RII is $4000CDN...that is just crazy to me but I guess it is on par with a good FF DSLR it is just the rapid devaluation of Sony products that has stopped me from getting one yet....


Sony is iterating new camera bodies faster than they can introduce new lenses, and they seem to have already stopped supporting recent products like the A7R, which of course drives causes the depreciation to plummet even faster.



Sep 17, 2015 at 11:03 AM
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p.1 #7 · Tony Northrup Canon Expo summary...


Thanks for posting. I look forward to the new 600mm.
Well done recap!



Sep 17, 2015 at 05:52 PM
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molson wrote:
Sony is iterating new camera bodies faster than they can introduce new lenses, and they seem to have already stopped supporting recent products like the A7R, which of course drives causes the depreciation to plummet even faster.


Canon is like Casper the ghost, always producing vaporware.



Sep 17, 2015 at 06:16 PM
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molson wrote:
Sony is iterating new camera bodies faster than they can introduce new lenses, and they seem to have already stopped supporting recent products like the A7R, which of course drives causes the depreciation to plummet even faster.


To be fair, if they didn't get those Mk. II bodies out of the door, they'd never have really gotten momentum. You had so many people saying 'I hate everything about this camera except the sensor!'.

Making good on people's faith that Sony would put IBIS into these bodies and embrace non-contorting ergonomics is a big step up, and their embrace of stuff like uncompressed RAW for bodies that weren't designed for lossless RAW (like everyone else's!) along with 'wink wink' support for AF with Canon lenses is a big deal too.

And yes, they are attacking the market 'from the bottom'. That's where they are, and they're having to prove that they're more than a gadget maker that has had passing affairs with photography, and that they're actually serious about serious photography innovation.



Sep 17, 2015 at 06:17 PM
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Sony's attention span is much shorter than Canon, who play the long game.

There are pluses and minuses of course, as others have already explained.



Sep 17, 2015 at 06:41 PM
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arbitrage wrote:
Maybe...but Sony is now playing at a very expensive level also. A7RII is $4000CDN...that is just crazy to me but I guess it is on par with a good FF DSLR it is just the rapid devaluation of Sony products that has stopped me from getting one yet....

molson wrote:
Sony is iterating new camera bodies faster than they can introduce new lenses, and they seem to have already stopped supporting recent products like the A7R, which of course drives causes the depreciation to plummet even faster.

mogul wrote:
Canon is like Casper the ghost, always producing vaporware.


That 120MP camera is real, though some of the others are development projects.

EBH



Sep 17, 2015 at 07:18 PM
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molson wrote:
Sony is iterating new camera bodies faster than they can introduce new lenses, and they seem to have already stopped supporting recent products like the A7R, which of course drives causes the depreciation to plummet even faster.


Form what I see they only have two generations of bodies with three sensors each.
Lack of support is a major concern. How long does the Sony version of CPS support their equipment?

EBH



Sep 17, 2015 at 07:23 PM
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mogul wrote:
Canon is like Casper the ghost, always producing vaporware.


My Canon "vaporware" is making me money, unlike my Sony gear, which Sony won't/can't repair...



Sep 17, 2015 at 08:24 PM
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EB-1 wrote:
Form what I see they only have two generations of bodies with three sensors each.
Lack of support is a major concern. How long does the Sony version of CPS support their equipment?



From what I can tell, they've already stopped supporting the A7R.

Sony doesn't have a version of CPS - their idea of "pro service" seems to be one guy, who throws your gear in the back of his pickup truck and personally drives it down to their third-party repair centre in Mexico...



Sep 17, 2015 at 08:27 PM
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Wow. So what happens when your 500/4 has a bad day? No loaners then or rapid repairs.

EBH



Sep 17, 2015 at 08:41 PM
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EB-1 wrote:
Wow. So what happens when your 500/4 has a bad day? No loaners then or rapid repairs.

EBH


Then you run to your nearest sony store and buy an other one ...

Francois



Sep 17, 2015 at 10:35 PM
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p.1 #17 · Tony Northrup Canon Expo summary...


Am I crazy or did the guy say something about a 24-70/4 IS II?

EBH



Sep 17, 2015 at 10:37 PM
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EB-1 wrote:
Am I crazy or did the guy say something about a 24-70/4 IS II?

EBH


He said '24-70/2.8L IS II', which doesn't make sense, given that we're still waiting on the first one :-p



Sep 18, 2015 at 01:21 AM
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johnctharp wrote:
He said '24-70/2.8L IS II', which doesn't make sense, given that we're still waiting on the first one :-p


The first one wasn't sharp, so I offered some suggestions and now they are working on the II version....
















Sep 18, 2015 at 04:53 AM
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qc_mountain wrote:
Then you run to your nearest sony store and buy an other one ...

Francois


And then you sit back and wait a year for it to be delivered, since Sony only builds them on special order... just like their other "pro" telephoto, the 300mm f2.8



Sep 18, 2015 at 07:16 AM
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