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Re: R5 II vs. A1


swldstn wrote:
Jazzgear296 wrote:
trippalhealick wrote:
Flaghship to flagship, the A1 II blows the R1 out of the water as far as (proven and objective) feature sets go. The reason Sony priced the A1 and A1 II at $6500 US is because....well, because they can. Look back at the Canon 1DX III. It was $6500, and how many years ago was it released? The simple fact is, neither of the other two major manufacturers have a camera that meets the A1 in specs. Close, very close, but not 100% when measured side-by-side. So, I wouldn't call the A1 II overpriced. I'd call the Canon R5 II EXTREMELY competitively priced. A value buy if you're just getting in and don't already have a bunch invested in a system. I consider switching back to Canon frequently, but I have to remind myself why I switched away from them years ago. Their stagnation of innovation. Sony brought a LOT of that when they started this mirrorless market, and continue to lead, IMO.


Edit: Anyone looking for a used A1 can thank me for the soon-to-be lowered used prices, because I pre-ordered the A1 II about 15 seconds into it being live on B&H. lol


Again, I’ll try to type it slower….this is not a flagship to flagship comparison. Because what each company calls their flagship cameras, differ in the use cases they’re intended for. Sony’s Flagship camera feature set aligns more with the non flagship R5 II. vis a vis….. and despite your consternation with that reality, both cameras produce great photos to meet the intended use case requirements. If two photographers go out to shoot their cameras one Canon R5II and the other Sony A1II for the same use case, the only limiting factor is gonna be between each of their ears, and not the cameras. So again, anyway you want to frame it — the A1II is overpriced, but Sony knows that if you’re only invested in their lens ecosystem, you have to pay whatever they’re charging. I have about the same amount of cameras and lenses from both companies, so I have the freedom to choose the better value, the R5II


So I also own quite a few Canon RF lenses and Sony GM/GMII lenses and haven’t chosen the EOS R5 Mark II or the Sony A1 II yet. I currently own A1’s and a a Caon R5. If I go Canon I really have to add 24/1,4, 35/1.4 RF L lenses and possible others to give me the range of primes I have covered with Sony already. This will cost me over $2000, so I’m still trying to decide which way I go. What are you considering?


Well, I did a 180 and purchased the R5II when I swore I wasn’t going to upgrade. The clincher for me was the 20% discount from Canon direct, and the relatively high price I got for my used R5 ($2800). I was watching closely the release of the A1II ..hoping it’d trump the R5II, so I can finally retire/sell off my ancient A9, and my workhorse A7RIV…. But like I’ve been saying in all these threads, for me since I am in both camps and have the R5II, the A1II doesn’t offer enough from what I already have in the R5II. Now I do -lan somewhere down the road to upgrade my current Sonys…but it’ll be once the A1II comes down about $1000-$1500, or used a year or so down the road.




Nov 23, 2024 at 03:00 PM
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Re: R5 II vs. A1


swldstn wrote:
Jazzgear296 wrote:
trippalhealick wrote:
Flaghship to flagship, the A1 II blows the R1 out of the water as far as (proven and objective) feature sets go. The reason Sony priced the A1 and A1 II at $6500 US is because....well, because they can. Look back at the Canon 1DX III. It was $6500, and how many years ago was it released? The simple fact is, neither of the other two major manufacturers have a camera that meets the A1 in specs. Close, very close, but not 100% when measured side-by-side. So, I wouldn't call the A1 II overpriced. I'd call the Canon R5 II EXTREMELY competitively priced. A value buy if you're just getting in and don't already have a bunch invested in a system. I consider switching back to Canon frequently, but I have to remind myself why I switched away from them years ago. Their stagnation of innovation. Sony brought a LOT of that when they started this mirrorless market, and continue to lead, IMO.


Edit: Anyone looking for a used A1 can thank me for the soon-to-be lowered used prices, because I pre-ordered the A1 II about 15 seconds into it being live on B&H. lol


Again, I’ll try to type it slower….this is not a flagship to flagship comparison. Because what each company calls their flagship cameras, differ in the use cases they’re intended for. Sony’s Flagship camera feature set aligns more with the non flagship R5 II. vis a vis….. and despite your consternation with that reality, both cameras produce great photos to meet the intended use case requirements. If two photographers go out to shoot their cameras one Canon R5II and the other Sony A1II for the same use case, the only limiting factor is gonna be between each of their ears, and not the cameras. So again, anyway you want to frame it — the A1II is overpriced, but Sony knows that if you’re only invested in their lens ecosystem, you have to pay whatever they’re charging. I have about the same amount of cameras and lenses from both companies, so I have the freedom to choose the better value, the R5II


So I also own quite a few Canon RF lenses and Sony GM/GMII lenses and haven’t chosen the EOS R5 Mark II or the Sony A1 II yet. I currently own A1’s and a a Caon R5. If I go Canon I really have to add 24/1,4, 35/1.4 RF L lenses and possible others to give me the range of primes I have covered with Sony already. This will cost me over $2000, so I’m still trying to decide which way I go. What are you considering?


Well, I did a 180 and purchased the R5II when I swore I wasn’t going to upgrade. The clincher for me was the 20% discount from Canon direct, and the relatively high price I got for my used R5 ($2800). I was watching closely the release of the A1II ..hoping it’d trump the R5II, so I can finally retire/sell off my ancient A9, and my workhorse ARIV…. But like I’ve been saying in all these threads, for me since I am in both camps and have the R5II, the A1II doesn’t offer enough from what I already have in the R5II. Now I do -lan somewhere down the road to upgrade my current Sonys…but it’ll be once the A1II comes down about $1000-$1500, or used a year or so down the road.




Nov 23, 2024 at 10:50 AM





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