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ivancook wrote:
I'm having major envy of Nikon's PF primes. I've heard about the supposed Canon 200-500 f4, but any rumors of new, lighter primes? a reboot of the DO series? or even a redesign of their 600 f4?


as much as I would love for Canon to start competing with regards to wildlife lenses, it doesn't seem like they have any intent to do so.

seems they are happier fulfilling the professional photojournalism + sports segment rather than the more niche wildlife photographers or hobbyists. potentially understandably so. I imagine Canon follows the money, and the money goes to short focal length, zooms, and low MP bodies with high FPS.

I've heard nothing about any new wildlife lenses, and after they gutted the 100-300 and 200-500 by not including built in TC's, I had to make my decision to leave

AmbientMike wrote:
I felt pretty stupid for listening to the people having intense desires for nikon teles on here after running into a guy using the 500/5.6. He had it on a Z9 and a tripod!!! Not lightweight setup


The Z9 is close 2x the weight of the R5, Z8 still the weight of a big DSLR which is supposedly so heavy according to the mirrorless crowd.

Canon already one upped the competition since their recently released 200-600 goes to 800mm. Nobody else has a 100-300, either. Z9 + 500/5.6 isn't much, if any, lighter than the 400/4 on the R5


The Nikon 500 f5.6 is almost 6 years old at this point and still only weighs 3.22lbs lol. Who would use that on a tripod??

And why are you comparing Canon's most recent and more expensive zoom(s) to 6 year old equipment?

If anything - what you've stated should be pretty embarrassing for Canon

artsupreme wrote:
I would like to see an aperture chart comparison for these mega-zooms that show the respective apertures at each focal length. The Canon 200-800, Sony 200-600, and Nikon 180-600, and might as well throw in the Canon 100-500


I made this little table for ya.

Pretty interesting, I wasn't expecting the results.

The Sony 100-400 looks garbage... only at f4.5 from 100mm - 115mm, and then is stuck at it's slowest f5.6 from 162 - 400mm. Same with the Sony 200-600 that is at f6.3 all the way from 310 - 600mm.

RF 100-500 looks excellent as expected. RF 200-800 is alright.

Nikon 180-600 looks better than I was expecting.

I see people often use 1.4x TC's with their zooms, so I added that in.



Apr 02, 2024 at 01:16 PM
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Re: Super telephoto lens rumors?


ivancook wrote:
I'm having major envy of Nikon's PF primes. I've heard about the supposed Canon 200-500 f4, but any rumors of new, lighter primes? a reboot of the DO series? or even a redesign of their 600 f4?


as much as I would love for Canon to start competing with regards to wildlife lenses, it doesn't seem like they have any intent to do so.

seems they are happier fulfilling the professional photojournalism + sports segment rather than the more niche wildlife photographers or hobbyists. potentially understandably so. I imagine Canon follows the money, and the money goes to short focal length, zooms, and low MP bodies with high FPS.

I've heard nothing about any new wildlife lenses, and after they gutted the 100-300 and 200-500 by not including built in TC's, I had to make my decision to leave

AmbientMike wrote:
I felt pretty stupid for listening to the people having intense desires for nikon teles on here after running into a guy using the 500/5.6. He had it on a Z9 and a tripod!!! Not lightweight setup


The Z9 is close 2x the weight of the R5, Z8 still the weight of a big DSLR which is supposedly so heavy according to the mirrorless crowd.

Canon already one upped the competition since their recently released 200-600 goes to 800mm. Nobody else has a 100-300, either. Z9 + 500/5.6 isn't much, if any, lighter than the 400/4 on the R5


The Nikon 500 f5.6 is almost 6 years old at this point and still only weighs 3.22lbs lol. Who would use that on a tripod??

And why are you comparing Canon's most recent and more expensive zoom(s) to 6 year old equipment?

If anything - what you've stated should be pretty embarrassing for Canon

artsupreme wrote:
I would like to see an aperture chart comparison for these mega-zooms that show the respective apertures at each focal length. The Canon 200-800, Sony 200-600, and Nikon 180-600, and might as well throw in the Canon 100-500


I made this little table for ya.

Pretty interesting, I wasn't expecting the results.

The Sony 100-400 looks garbage... only at f4.5 from 100mm - 115mm, and then is stuck at it's slowest f5.6 from 162 - 400mm. Same with the Sony 200-600 that is at f6.3 all the way from 310 - 600mm.

RF 100-500 looks excellent as expected. RF 200-800 is alright.

Nikon 180-600 looks better than I was expecting.

I see people often use 1.4x TC's with their zooms, so I added that in.



Apr 02, 2024 at 01:09 PM
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Re: Super telephoto lens rumors?


ivancook wrote:
I'm having major envy of Nikon's PF primes. I've heard about the supposed Canon 200-500 f4, but any rumors of new, lighter primes? a reboot of the DO series? or even a redesign of their 600 f4?


as much as I would love for Canon to start competing with regards to wildlife lenses, it doesn't seem like they have any intent to do so.

seems they are happier fulfilling the professional photojournalism + sports segment rather than the more niche wildlife photographers or hobbyists. potentially understandably so. I imagine Canon follows the money, and the money goes to short focal length, zooms, and low MP bodies with high FPS.

I've heard nothing about any new wildlife lenses, and after they gutted the 100-300 and 200-500 by not including built in TC's, I had to make my decision to leave

AmbientMike wrote:
I felt pretty stupid for listening to the people having intense desires for nikon teles on here after running into a guy using the 500/5.6. He had it on a Z9 and a tripod!!! Not lightweight setup


The Z9 is close 2x the weight of the R5, Z8 still the weight of a big DSLR which is supposedly so heavy according to the mirrorless crowd.

Canon already one upped the competition since their recently released 200-600 goes to 800mm. Nobody else has a 100-300, either. Z9 + 500/5.6 isn't much, if any, lighter than the 400/4 on the R5


The Nikon 500 f5.6 is almost 6 years old at this point and still only weighs 3.22lbs lol. Who would use that on a tripod??

And why are you comparing Canon's most recent and more expensive zoom(s) to 6 year old equipment?

If anything - what you've stated should be pretty embarrassing for Canon

artsupreme wrote:
I would like to see an aperture chart comparison for these mega-zooms that show the respective apertures at each focal length. The Canon 200-800, Sony 200-600, and Nikon 180-600, and might as well throw in the Canon 100-500


I made this little table for ya.

Pretty interesting, I wasn't expecting the results.

The Sony 100-400 looks garbage... only at f4.5 from 100mm - 115mm, and then is stuck at it's slowest f5.6 from 162 - 400mm. Same with the Sony 200-600 that is at f6.3 all the way from 310 - 600mm.

RF 100-500 looks pretty good as expected. RF 200-800 is meh.

Nikon 180-600 looks better than I was expecting.

I see people often use 1.4x TC's with their zooms, so I added that in.



Apr 02, 2024 at 01:09 PM
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Re: Super telephoto lens rumors?


ivancook wrote:
I'm having major envy of Nikon's PF primes. I've heard about the supposed Canon 200-500 f4, but any rumors of new, lighter primes? a reboot of the DO series? or even a redesign of their 600 f4?


as much as I would love for Canon to start competing with regards to wildlife lenses, it doesn't seem like they have any intent to do so.

seems they are happier fulfilling the professional photojournalism + sports segment rather than the more niche wildlife photographers or hobbyists. potentially understandably so. I imagine Canon follows the money, and the money goes to short focal length, zooms, and low MP bodies with high FPS.

I've heard nothing about any new wildlife lenses, and after they gutted the 100-300 and 200-500 by not including built in TC's, I had to make my decision to leave

AmbientMike wrote:
I felt pretty stupid for listening to the people having intense desires for nikon teles on here after running into a guy using the 500/5.6. He had it on a Z9 and a tripod!!! Not lightweight setup


The Z9 is close 2x the weight of the R5, Z8 still the weight of a big DSLR which is supposedly so heavy according to the mirrorless crowd.

Canon already one upped the competition since their recently released 200-600 goes to 800mm. Nobody else has a 100-300, either. Z9 + 500/5.6 isn't much, if any, lighter than the 400/4 on the R5


The Nikon 500 f5.6 is almost 6 years old at this point and still only weighs 3.22lbs lol. Who would use that on a tripod??

And why are you comparing Canon's most recent and more expensive zoom(s) to 6 year old equipment?

If anything - what you've stated should be pretty embarrassing for Canon

artsupreme wrote:
I would like to see an aperture chart comparison for these mega-zooms that show the respective apertures at each focal length. The Canon 200-800, Sony 200-600, and Nikon 180-600, and might as well throw in the Canon 100-500


I made this little table for ya.

Pretty interesting, I wasn't expecting the results. The Sony 100-400 looks garbage... only at f4.5 from 100mm - 115mm, and then is stuck at it's slowest f5.6 from 162mm - 400mm.

RF 100-500 looks pretty good as expected. RF 200-800 is meh.



Apr 02, 2024 at 01:07 PM
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Re: Super telephoto lens rumors?


ivancook wrote:
I'm having major envy of Nikon's PF primes. I've heard about the supposed Canon 200-500 f4, but any rumors of new, lighter primes? a reboot of the DO series? or even a redesign of their 600 f4?


as much as I would love for Canon to start competing with regards to wildlife lenses, it doesn't seem like they have any intent to do so.

seems they are happier fulfilling the professional photojournalism + sports segment rather than the more niche wildlife photographers or hobbyists. potentially understandably so. I imagine Canon follows the money, and the money goes to short focal length, zooms, and low MP bodies with high FPS.

I've heard nothing about any new wildlife lenses, and after they gutted the 100-300 and 200-500 by not including built in TC's, I had to make my decision to leave

AmbientMike wrote:
I felt pretty stupid for listening to the people having intense desires for nikon teles on here after running into a guy using the 500/5.6. He had it on a Z9 and a tripod!!! Not lightweight setup


The Z9 is close 2x the weight of the R5, Z8 still the weight of a big DSLR which is supposedly so heavy according to the mirrorless crowd.

Canon already one upped the competition since their recently released 200-600 goes to 800mm. Nobody else has a 100-300, either. Z9 + 500/5.6 isn't much, if any, lighter than the 400/4 on the R5


The Nikon 500 f5.6 is almost 6 years old at this point and still only weighs 3.22lbs lol. Who would use that on a tripod??

And why are you comparing Canon's most recent and more expensive zoom(s) to 6 year old equipment?

If anything - what you've stated should be pretty embarrassing for Canon

artsupreme wrote:
I would like to see an aperture chart comparison for these mega-zooms that show the respective apertures at each focal length. The Canon 200-800, Sony 200-600, and Nikon 180-600, and might as well throw in the Canon 100-500


I made this little table for ya.

Pretty interesting, I wasn't expecting the results. The Sony 100-400 looks garbage... only at f4.5 from 100mm - 115mm, and then is stuck at it's slowest f5.6 from 162mm - 400mm.

RF 100-500 looks pretty good as expected. RF 200-800 is meh. Maybe I need to add options for the other 100-400s/200-600s with TC to see how it stacks up that way






Apr 02, 2024 at 12:55 PM
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Re: Super telephoto lens rumors?


ivancook wrote:
I'm having major envy of Nikon's PF primes. I've heard about the supposed Canon 200-500 f4, but any rumors of new, lighter primes? a reboot of the DO series? or even a redesign of their 600 f4?


as much as I would love for Canon to start competing with regards to wildlife lenses, it doesn't seem like they have any intent to do so.

seems they are happier fulfilling the professional photojournalism + sports segment rather than the more niche wildlife photographers or hobbyists. potentially understandably so. I imagine Canon follows the money, and the money goes to short focal length, zooms, and low MP bodies with high FPS.

I've heard nothing about any new wildlife lenses, and after they gutted the 100-300 and 200-500 by not including built in TC's, I had to make my decision to leave

AmbientMike wrote:
I felt pretty stupid for listening to the people having intense desires for nikon teles on here after running into a guy using the 500/5.6. He had it on a Z9 and a tripod!!! Not lightweight setup


The Z9 is close 2x the weight of the R5, Z8 still the weight of a big DSLR which is supposedly so heavy according to the mirrorless crowd.

Canon already one upped the competition since their recently released 200-600 goes to 800mm. Nobody else has a 100-300, either. Z9 + 500/5.6 isn't much, if any, lighter than the 400/4 on the R5


The Nikon 500 f5.6 is almost 6 years old at this point and still only weighs 3.22lbs lol. Who would use that on a tripod??

And why are you comparing Canon's most recent and more expensive zoom(s) to 6 year old equipment?

If anything - what you've stated should be pretty embarrassing for Canon

artsupreme wrote:
I would like to see an aperture chart comparison for these mega-zooms that show the respective apertures at each focal length. The Canon 200-800, Sony 200-600, and Nikon 180-600, and might as well throw in the Canon 100-500


I made this little table for ya.

Pretty interesting, I wasn't expecting the results. The Sony 100-400 looks garbage... only at f4.5 from 100mm - 115mm, and then is stuck at it's slowest f5.6 from 162mm - 400mm.

RF 100-500 looks pretty good as expected. RF 200-800 is meh. Maybe I need to add options for the other 100-400s/200-600s with TC to see how it stacks up that way






Apr 02, 2024 at 12:46 PM
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Re: Super telephoto lens rumors?


ivancook wrote:
I'm having major envy of Nikon's PF primes. I've heard about the supposed Canon 200-500 f4, but any rumors of new, lighter primes? a reboot of the DO series? or even a redesign of their 600 f4?


as much as I would love for Canon to start competing with regards to wildlife lenses, it doesn't seem like they have any intent to do so.

seems they are happier fulfilling the professional photojournalism + sports segment rather than the more niche wildlife photographers or hobbyists. potentially understandably so. I imagine Canon follows the money, and the money goes to short focal length, zooms, and low MP bodies with high FPS.

I've heard nothing about any new wildlife lenses, and after they gutted the 100-300 and 200-500 by not including built in TC's, I had to make my decision to leave

AmbientMike wrote:
I felt pretty stupid for listening to the people having intense desires for nikon teles on here after running into a guy using the 500/5.6. He had it on a Z9 and a tripod!!! Not lightweight setup


The Z9 is close 2x the weight of the R5, Z8 still the weight of a big DSLR which is supposedly so heavy according to the mirrorless crowd.

Canon already one upped the competition since their recently released 200-600 goes to 800mm. Nobody else has a 100-300, either. Z9 + 500/5.6 isn't much, if any, lighter than the 400/4 on the R5


The Nikon 500 f5.6 is almost 6 years old at this point and still only weighs 3.22lbs lol. Who would use that on a tripod??

And why are you comparing Canon's most recent and more expensive zoom(s) to 6 year old equipment?

If anything - what you've stated should be pretty embarrassing for Canon

artsupreme wrote:
I would like to see an aperture chart comparison for these mega-zooms that show the respective apertures at each focal length. The Canon 200-800, Sony 200-600, and Nikon 180-600, and might as well throw in the Canon 100-500


I made this little table for ya.

Pretty interesting, I wasn't expecting the results. The Sony 100-400 looks garbage... only at f4.5 from 100mm - 115mm, and then is stuck at it's slowest f5.6 from 162mm - 400mm.

RF 100-500 looks pretty good as expected. RF 200-800 is meh. Maybe I need to add options for the other 100-400s/200-600s with TC to see how it stacks up that way






Apr 02, 2024 at 12:44 PM
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Re: Super telephoto lens rumors?


ivancook wrote:
I'm having major envy of Nikon's PF primes. I've heard about the supposed Canon 200-500 f4, but any rumors of new, lighter primes? a reboot of the DO series? or even a redesign of their 600 f4?


as much as I would love for Canon to start competing with regards to wildlife lenses, it doesn't seem like they have any intent to do so.

seems they are happier fulfilling the professional photojournalism + sports segment rather than the more niche wildlife photographers or hobbyists. potentially understandably so. I imagine Canon follows the money, and the money goes to short focal length, zooms, and low MP bodies with high FPS.

I've heard nothing about any new wildlife lenses, and after they gutted the 100-300 and 200-500 by not including built in TC's, I had to make my decision to leave

AmbientMike wrote:
I felt pretty stupid for listening to the people having intense desires for nikon teles on here after running into a guy using the 500/5.6. He had it on a Z9 and a tripod!!! Not lightweight setup


The Z9 is close 2x the weight of the R5, Z8 still the weight of a big DSLR which is supposedly so heavy according to the mirrorless crowd.

Canon already one upped the competition since their recently released 200-600 goes to 800mm. Nobody else has a 100-300, either. Z9 + 500/5.6 isn't much, if any, lighter than the 400/4 on the R5


The Nikon 500 f5.6 is almost 6 years old at this point and still only weighs 3.22lbs lol. Who would use that on a tripod??

And why are you comparing Canon's most recent and more expensive zoom(s) to 6 year old equipment?

If anything - what you've stated should be pretty embarrassing for Canon

artsupreme wrote:
I would like to see an aperture chart comparison for these mega-zooms that show the respective apertures at each focal length. The Canon 200-800, Sony 200-600, and Nikon 180-600, and might as well throw in the Canon 100-500


I made this little table for ya






Apr 02, 2024 at 12:43 PM
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Re: Super telephoto lens rumors?


ivancook wrote:
I'm having major envy of Nikon's PF primes. I've heard about the supposed Canon 200-500 f4, but any rumors of new, lighter primes? a reboot of the DO series? or even a redesign of their 600 f4?


as much as I would love for Canon to start competing with regards to wildlife lenses, it doesn't seem like they have any intent to do so.

seems they are happier fulfilling the professional photojournalism + sports segment rather than the more niche wildlife photographers or hobbyists. potentially understandably so. I imagine Canon follows the money, and the money goes to short focal length, zooms, and low MP bodies with high FPS.

I've heard nothing about any new wildlife lenses, and after they gutted the 100-300 and 200-500 by not including built in TC's, I had to make my decision to leave

AmbientMike wrote:
I felt pretty stupid for listening to the people having intense desires for nikon teles on here after running into a guy using the 500/5.6. He had it on a Z9 and a tripod!!! Not lightweight setup


The Z9 is close 2x the weight of the R5, Z8 still the weight of a big DSLR which is supposedly so heavy according to the mirrorless crowd.

Canon already one upped the competition since their recently released 200-600 goes to 800mm. Nobody else has a 100-300, either. Z9 + 500/5.6 isn't much, if any, lighter than the 400/4 on the R5


The Nikon 500 f5.6 is almost 6 years old at this point and still only weighs 3.22lbs lol. Who would use that on a tripod??

And why are you comparing Canon's most recent and more expensive zoom(s) to 6 year old equipment?

If anything - what you've stated should be pretty embarrassing for Canon

artsupreme wrote:
I would like to see an aperture chart comparison for these mega-zooms that show the respective apertures at each focal length. The Canon 200-800, Sony 200-600, and Nikon 180-600, and might as well throw in the Canon 100-500






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