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Re: Next Sony APS-C Camera?


itai195 wrote:
chiron wrote:
Iguana829 wrote:
When is the next Sony APS-C Camera coming out?

Canon is putting the beatdown on Sony with the R7.

4k60 uncropped, 7k footage downsampled, larger battery, extremely high end autofocus/processor, IBIS, 10 bit 4:2:2 C-Log, etc.

It is kind of embarrassing the R7 is only what, a hundred bucks more than the A6600?

It is sad. Because Canon has no lenses and Sony has no bodies.

Why did sony release THREE new APS-C Lenses (one of which, the 15 1.4G looks REALLY good, especially for video as there is ZERO focus breathing), with NO bodies.

Your options are to throw it on the "2021" ZVe10 (2016 A6300 tech with a mic and flippy screen, slightly better autofocus algorithm)

2018 A6400 (2016 tech, better autofocus algorithm than the a6300/ 4k downsampled 6k video because better processor than a6300, that's about it).

2019 A6600 (Again, 2016 tech with better battery life/IBIS/autofocus)

Those options all suck.

Where is the 4k120, 10 bit Log Recording, Cinetone, better menu system from A7SIII/A7IV, etc. Even if it cost 1.5-2k. Their APSC Bodies are old news.

I don't' want a new ZV1 with a stupid non changeable lens that is being rumored. I want a new A6600/6400 to combat the R7/R10 because Sony's lense options are

SO.

MUCH.

BETTER.

Thoughts?




Why buy an aps-c when the A7C is the same size but is full frame? There are a lot of small FF lenses out there now, many more than will exist for aps-c.


The A7C body is a train wreck, IMO.

There are some small FF lenses that approach APS-C size, but it's nowhere near the same selection.


Have you actually used the A7C body? I just travelled for three weeks using two A7C bodies and a selection of small Sigma and Sony lenses. It was a fabulous setup and the body was a joy to handle and use. I took them in preference to my A1 and A9 bodies and I would do it again tomorrow.

And I can't imagine why you think there is a better selection of small aps-c lenses than small e-mount full frame lenses. Just the Sigma i lenses, the Samyang tiny lenses, and the Loxia lenses refute that. And even the Batis lenses and the new 16-35/4 all fit very comfortably and handily on the A7C body. As well as lenses like the Sony 20/1.8, 24/1.4, 55/1.8, 50/1.8, 85/1.8, 35/1.8, 28-60 zoom, and the Sony 35/2.8. Should I go on? Ok, I will--and the Sony 24/2.8, 40/2.5, and 50/2.5. And the Samyang 35/2.8. Etc.



Jun 24, 2022 at 08:30 AM
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Re: Next Sony APS-C Camera?


itai195 wrote:
chiron wrote:
Iguana829 wrote:
When is the next Sony APS-C Camera coming out?

Canon is putting the beatdown on Sony with the R7.

4k60 uncropped, 7k footage downsampled, larger battery, extremely high end autofocus/processor, IBIS, 10 bit 4:2:2 C-Log, etc.

It is kind of embarrassing the R7 is only what, a hundred bucks more than the A6600?

It is sad. Because Canon has no lenses and Sony has no bodies.

Why did sony release THREE new APS-C Lenses (one of which, the 15 1.4G looks REALLY good, especially for video as there is ZERO focus breathing), with NO bodies.

Your options are to throw it on the "2021" ZVe10 (2016 A6300 tech with a mic and flippy screen, slightly better autofocus algorithm)

2018 A6400 (2016 tech, better autofocus algorithm than the a6300/ 4k downsampled 6k video because better processor than a6300, that's about it).

2019 A6600 (Again, 2016 tech with better battery life/IBIS/autofocus)

Those options all suck.

Where is the 4k120, 10 bit Log Recording, Cinetone, better menu system from A7SIII/A7IV, etc. Even if it cost 1.5-2k. Their APSC Bodies are old news.

I don't' want a new ZV1 with a stupid non changeable lens that is being rumored. I want a new A6600/6400 to combat the R7/R10 because Sony's lense options are

SO.

MUCH.

BETTER.

Thoughts?




Why buy an aps-c when the A7C is the same size but is full frame? There are a lot of small FF lenses out there now, many more than will exist for aps-c.


The A7C body is a train wreck, IMO.

There are some small FF lenses that approach APS-C size, but it's nowhere near the same selection.


Have you actually used the A7C body? I just travelled for three weeks using two A7C bodies and a selection of small Sigma and Sony lenses. It was a fabulous setup and the body was a joy to handle and use. I took them in preference to my A1 and A9 bodies and I would do it again tomorrow.

And I can't imagine why you think there is a better selection of small aps-c lenses than small e-mount full frame lenses. Just the Sigma i lenses, the Samyang tiny lenses, and the Loxia lenses refute that. And even the Batis lenses and the new 16-35/4 all fit very comfortably and handily on the A7C body. As well as lenses like the Sony 20/1.8, 24/1.4, 55/1.8, 50/1.8, 85/1.8, 35/1.8, 28-60 zoom, and the Sony 35/2.8. Should I go on? Ok, I will--and the Sony 24/2.8, 40/2.5, and 50/2.5. And the Samyang 35/2.8. Etc.



Jun 24, 2022 at 08:29 AM
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Re: Next Sony APS-C Camera?


itai195 wrote:
chiron wrote:
Iguana829 wrote:
When is the next Sony APS-C Camera coming out?

Canon is putting the beatdown on Sony with the R7.

4k60 uncropped, 7k footage downsampled, larger battery, extremely high end autofocus/processor, IBIS, 10 bit 4:2:2 C-Log, etc.

It is kind of embarrassing the R7 is only what, a hundred bucks more than the A6600?

It is sad. Because Canon has no lenses and Sony has no bodies.

Why did sony release THREE new APS-C Lenses (one of which, the 15 1.4G looks REALLY good, especially for video as there is ZERO focus breathing), with NO bodies.

Your options are to throw it on the "2021" ZVe10 (2016 A6300 tech with a mic and flippy screen, slightly better autofocus algorithm)

2018 A6400 (2016 tech, better autofocus algorithm than the a6300/ 4k downsampled 6k video because better processor than a6300, that's about it).

2019 A6600 (Again, 2016 tech with better battery life/IBIS/autofocus)

Those options all suck.

Where is the 4k120, 10 bit Log Recording, Cinetone, better menu system from A7SIII/A7IV, etc. Even if it cost 1.5-2k. Their APSC Bodies are old news.

I don't' want a new ZV1 with a stupid non changeable lens that is being rumored. I want a new A6600/6400 to combat the R7/R10 because Sony's lense options are

SO.

MUCH.

BETTER.

Thoughts?




Why buy an aps-c when the A7C is the same size but is full frame? There are a lot of small FF lenses out there now, many more than will exist for aps-c.


The A7C body is a train wreck, IMO.

There are some small FF lenses that approach APS-C size, but it's nowhere near the same selection.


Have you actually used the A7C body? I just travelled for three weeks using two A7C bodies and a selection of small Sigma and Sony lenses. It was a fabulous setup and the body was a joy to handle and use. I took them in preference to my A1 and A9 bodies and I would do it again tomorrow.

And I can't imagine why you think there is a better selection of small aps-c lenses than small e-mount full frame lenses. Just the Sigma i lenses, the Samyang tiny lenses, and the Loxia lenses refute that. And even the Batis lenses and the new 16-35/4 all fit very comfortably and handily on the A7C body. As well as lenses like the Sony 20/1.8, 24/1.4, 55/1.8, 50/1.8, 85/1.8, 35/1.8, 28-60 zoom, and the Sony 35/2.8. Should I go on?



Jun 23, 2022 at 05:03 PM





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