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navyasw02
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Anybody got any tips for how to get more keepers with the 5D for sports photography? Half my shots are blurry because I couldn't get a good focus lock with it. I know that's the nature of the beast with the 5D, but has anybody found some ways to make it a little better?


Mar 08, 2011 at 12:27 PM
Frank Lauri
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p.1 #2 · p.1 #2 · 5D Tips?


There isn't any scripted formula involved and without knowing exactly what you are experiencing.....things to consider: Know your equipment - Know the sport you are shooting and Practice. When you shoot an event...post some images here and ask for feedback. Be as detailed and specific as possible with the environment (indoor-outdoor-lighting-weather etc), camera settings etc. Without seeing any images it is difficult to visualize what you may be encountering. Hope this helps.

Frank Lauri



Mar 08, 2011 at 01:21 PM
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p.1 #3 · p.1 #3 · 5D Tips?


Moved to correct gear board.


Mar 08, 2011 at 02:25 PM
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p.1 #4 · p.1 #4 · 5D Tips?


What Jefferson said, plus using center point only. This will give you good results.

Jeroen



Mar 08, 2011 at 02:30 PM
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p.1 #5 · p.1 #5 · 5D Tips?


+1 to the above.

I shoot aircraft with a 5D + 100-400L.

General settings are Tv with s/s dialed up and down as necessary for helicopters, prop planes and jets, centre point focus, AI Servo and partial metering when shooting airborne aircraft.



Mar 08, 2011 at 03:22 PM
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p.1 #6 · p.1 #6 · 5D Tips?


Center point only. Make sure you have C.FnIII:7 AF point area expansion enabled. I've done a little BIF with 5DII + 100-400 when I left my crop home and found it does fairly well.


Mar 08, 2011 at 05:53 PM
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p.1 #7 · p.1 #7 · 5D Tips?


Thanks for the pointers. I'll try a different metering method next time and see if that helps. I was shooting a bike race and half the time I couldn't lock focus with the 70-200 or 24-70.


Mar 08, 2011 at 06:10 PM
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p.1 #8 · p.1 #8 · 5D Tips?


I used my 5D for a bit of BIF on occasion also, not enough be become great, but i got some keepers quite often...Center point focus, and I often would pre-focus the lens to the general range on the distance scale where I felt I'd be trying to acquire focus-lock...

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Mar 08, 2011 at 06:17 PM
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p.1 #9 · p.1 #9 · 5D Tips?


Reno - You must be interning under Petkal.

OP - your description is pretty vague. "half" is pretty poor, even with a 5D. It can't be much worse than a 40D can it? Are you in servo? what lenses? What sport? if they're blurry is it motion blur? Why do you say you can't get focus lock?

Post a couple examples as a talking point, but I'm sure you can whip that thing into shape. it'll never track as well as a 1d but you should be able to get serviceable results I would imagine.



Mar 08, 2011 at 07:54 PM
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p.1 #10 · p.1 #10 · 5D Tips?


TrojanHorse wrote:
Reno - You must be interning under Petkal.


It would appear that way wouldn't it !!! Peter does a great job at getting a lot more keeper pijun shots that I do !!! I wish I could spend more time doing the actual shooting !!!



Mar 08, 2011 at 07:59 PM
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navyasw02 wrote:
Thanks for the pointers. I'll try a different metering method next time and see if that helps. I was shooting a bike race and half the time I couldn't lock focus with the 70-200 or 24-70.


When shooting bike races, don't bother with AF. Preselect a point on the track where the bikes slant over the way you want as they come round a curve, and then set your focus there. Click 'em as they go through. Like shooting fish in a barrel.

It does mean decoupling your AF away from your shutter button, but use the appropriate Custom function to put it under your thumb on the back of the camera where it belongs anyway.



Canon 5D classic, 340 mm, f/8, 1/200 sec, ISO 400, cloudy bright



Mar 08, 2011 at 08:51 PM
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p.1 #12 · p.1 #12 · 5D Tips?


Jeroen Heus wrote:
What Jefferson said, plus using center point only. This will give you good results.

Jeroen


+100

Happy shooting,
Yakim.



Mar 09, 2011 at 07:58 AM
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p.1 #13 · p.1 #13 · 5D Tips?


Sure. This is a good and appropriate question.

I've actually used mine as a backup to my 1D IIn and 1D IV with great success for hockey, soccer, lacrosse and swimming! Althought the autofucus process is a bit slower (servo tracking) and the peripheral AF points (if you'd ever use them) are said to have accuracy issues, much can be done with regardless.

I have the most success with it in servo AF, center-point selection, which is pretty normal. I have found that 1) it takes a bit of pre-tracking (and I mean only a second or so) of the subject to get its lock and 2) it sometimes benefits from re-locking with a lift of the finger and a re-halfpress of the shutter button. I find that I do that continually as I ready for a snap with the 5D, and it works fine.

Monito's point above is an excellent bit of guidance. Find situations in which you can let the subject come into an already-set field of focus from time to time. Exposure can be set for that field, too. Manual is wonderful in so many ways.

I would say that over several thousand sports shots with the 5D I have only mis-focused about 5%, and that is almost always when I've been on the knees and wanted the face and things like that. So, middle point and re-focus presses seem to keep servo AF on track with my system.

Of course, watch your reciprocal rule in terms of shutter speed and focal length. When you can, a monopod can help (I use one all the time, regardless of shooting at 1/500s or faster). Depth-of-field can be the culprit (or lack thereof), as I used to see in the beginning days when I found that the chest focal plane (well, for most men) and the facial plane were two different places using low apertures like f/2 and f/2.8.

Busy sports may fool the 5D servo system, as when someone crosses the path of your target, or arms/sticks/legs grab its attention away from the body center. Even the pros have these frustrations, and believe me, even though the 1D IV CAN do almost any AF task, one has to learn how to set it and how if actually responds to say that it has been mastered.

The same can be done, to a degree, with your system.

Jon

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Mar 09, 2011 at 08:55 AM
Yakim Peled
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p.1 #14 · p.1 #14 · 5D Tips?


Another thing I just thought about. Lenses with ring USM typically offer faster and more accurate focus than MM USM or AFD.

Happy shooting,
Yakim.



Mar 09, 2011 at 09:09 AM





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