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p.1 #1 · p.1 #1 · "Contrastier" the Zeiss (ZE, ZF, ... ) than the Hasselblad lenses ??

Hi,

I have been looking at different pictures with Zeiss dSLR lenses, (ZE, ZF, ...), and they seem to me "contrastier" than the lenses that were once manufactured for the Hasselblad "V" lenses.
Are these, (the ZE, ZF, ...), much more colour saturated than the ones made for Hasselblad "V".
Do you remember that almost irreal color saturation of that not so old Kodak dia film 100S or 100SW. That is what I feel, when I have seen some makro shots.

What do you think ?? Is it only me ??

Kind regards,

igmolinav.

Nov 16, 2010 at 09:28 PM

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p.1 #2 · p.1 #2 · "Contrastier" the Zeiss (ZE, ZF, ... ) than the Hasselblad lenses ??

I'm not sure.

Have a look here, then decide. I wouldn't take the representation of colour on a predominantly digital forum to be indicative of the nature of the lenses.

Nov 16, 2010 at 09:31 PM

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p.1 #3 · p.1 #3 · "Contrastier" the Zeiss (ZE, ZF, ... ) than the Hasselblad lenses ??

The colour depends very strongly on the processing (camera profile etc.), but having tried the ZF 25/2.8, I have seen a big difference in rendering with my Contax 28/2.8. Colours seem to be indeed more saturated and contrast is higher. The Contax looks a bit more rounded although incredibly high resolving, whereas the ZF has biting microcontrast and seems to be outresolving my 5D's sensor in some areas (looks like that creates some demosaicing artifacts).

Nov 17, 2010 at 09:39 AM

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p.1 #4 · p.1 #4 · "Contrastier" the Zeiss (ZE, ZF, ... ) than the Hasselblad lenses ??

This may or may not be true. But if it was, wouldn't be very surprising. Zeiss has continued to improve its T* coatings through the years and designs have been perfected.

Nov 17, 2010 at 02:08 PM

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p.1 #5 · p.1 #5 · "Contrastier" the Zeiss (ZE, ZF, ... ) than the Hasselblad lenses ??

Having used many Hasselblad Zeiss lenses as well as Contax Zeiss lenses over the years, I think it really depends on the specific lens. In general, I do see similar characteristics between the two but as a rule, the smaller format lenses will have more contrast when compared to the MF lenses, particularly noticeable when used on a digital sensor.

Nov 17, 2010 at 02:28 PM

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p.1 #6 · p.1 #6 · "Contrastier" the Zeiss (ZE, ZF, ... ) than the Hasselblad lenses ??

I think that this observation is correct. I have three Hasselblad FE lenses and two ZF lenses, and the pattern holds. There are probably exceptions, maybe the ZF50/1.4 or ZF28/2 vs. the Hasselblad 180/4, but in general it seems to hold true. The extra contrast is needed to get the desired sharpness on the smaller film/sensor. Of course, designing for contrast and sharpness costs elsewhere, and the Hasselblad lenses often have a very beautiful look.

Nov 17, 2010 at 02:52 PM

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p.1 #7 · p.1 #7 · "Contrastier" the Zeiss (ZE, ZF, ... ) than the Hasselblad lenses ??

Tariq Gibran wrote:
Having used many Hasselblad Zeiss lenses as well as Contax Zeiss lenses over the years, I think it really depends on the specific lens. In general, I do see similar characteristics between the two but as a rule, the smaller format lenses will have more contrast when compared to the MF lenses, particularly noticeable when used on a digital sensor.

+1. The 40 Distagon IF is definitely up there with the "miniature format" lenses, the 250 Superachromat and perhaps the 180/4 too. The longer lenses are harder to compair as there are not counterparts in the Z* line. Yet.

Nov 17, 2010 at 03:16 PM

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p.1 #8 · p.1 #8 · "Contrastier" the Zeiss (ZE, ZF, ... ) than the Hasselblad lenses ??

Hi,

Thank you for your messages : ) !!!

I mentioned this, because I have used the Hasselblad 120 mm. f/4 for "V" cameras, and
the Hasselblad 80 mm. lens and I don't recall that the contrast be as stark as with the pictures of the ZE or ZF 50 mm. f/2 Makro. (Also, the pictures i have seen with the 50 mm. Makro seem to me like they were taken almost or with the aperture completely open. The focus was set at one point and perhaps the depth of field was very narrow. Very nice pictures of people. I imagine that if this lens is stopped down at least to f/4 and even from there on to higher aperture values, the foreground and the background should be tack sharp. However, the lens may be just "soft" at some points!)

Kind regards,

igmolinav.

Nov 17, 2010 at 05:12 PM


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