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jitu757
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I have been searching and searching the web and found nothing so I went ahead and emailed Annie's studio to see if she or anyone can or will write back with the answer.


Oct 19, 2010 at 03:03 PM
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p.2 #2 · p.2 #2 · Annie Leibovitz Backdrop?


Looking forward to what if anything you find out.


Oct 19, 2010 at 03:28 PM
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p.2 #3 · p.2 #3 · Annie Leibovitz Backdrop?


I found Muslin that is very close. If lit properly, it will look almost identical when desaturated in post.

http://i104.photobucket.com/albums/m168/jl122/MM2208-SurroundingFogLarge.jpg

http://www.dennymfg.com/BackdropDetailsNew.aspx?PId=ed1621ab-8145-4f89-bd0f-e9cc2a21efb9&PTId=bb4f9904-5363-4151-926b-5fb6ab04dd88




Oct 19, 2010 at 03:30 PM
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p.2 #4 · p.2 #4 · Annie Leibovitz Backdrop?


Also see: http://www.oliphantstudio.com/

Leibovitz and many other top photographers get their backdrops from them.



Oct 19, 2010 at 03:31 PM
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p.2 #5 · p.2 #5 · Annie Leibovitz Backdrop?


Skarkowtsky wrote:
I found Muslin that is very close. If lit properly, it will look almost identical when desaturated in post.

http://i104.photobucket.com/albums/m168/jl122/MM2208-SurroundingFogLarge.jpg

http://www.dennymfg.com/BackdropDetailsNew.aspx?PId=ed1621ab-8145-4f89-bd0f-e9cc2a21efb9&PTId=bb4f9904-5363-4151-926b-5fb6ab04dd88



You are right it does look like the gray backdrop with the burned edges and I see what you mean about desat it in pp. Cool find!



Oct 19, 2010 at 03:33 PM
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E-Vener wrote:
Also see: http://www.oliphantstudio.com/

Leibovitz and many other top photographers get their backdrops from them.


I love you!



Oct 19, 2010 at 03:34 PM
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You're the man, Ellis. The very first one from your link, haha

http://i104.photobucket.com/albums/m168/jl122/phoca_thumb_l_5.jpg



Oct 19, 2010 at 03:34 PM
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It seems as if Oliphant rents. Though they might sell, it will probably a custom one-off, and pricey.


Oct 19, 2010 at 03:37 PM
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Yeah I just got of the phone with them and they do sell custom backdrops including the ones used by different photographers and they have their example photos on their site. This is a miracle. So, the person who does the custom work will call me back tomorrow or sometime this week with price and stuff.

Wow! I can't believe it. E-Vener, you have just saved a soul.



Oct 19, 2010 at 03:46 PM
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Skarkowtsky wrote:
It seems as if Oliphant rents. Though they might sell, it will probably a custom one-off, and pricey.


Yeah they do sell and the price will vary depending on the work involved and also the size that you want. If I can get one for under $200 I would be super happy.



Oct 19, 2010 at 03:47 PM
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Awesome, man. Congrats.


Oct 19, 2010 at 03:53 PM
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It took awhile to remember Oliphant's name, and I wasn't sure they were still in business.


Oct 19, 2010 at 06:07 PM
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The Oliphant and Schmidli drops are more expensive but IMO look 95% better. There's a world of difference between between an Irving Penn or Annie Leibovitz BG and Denny BG.


Oct 19, 2010 at 06:23 PM
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So, after all the searching and E-Vener hooking me up with the very people that made/makes the backdrop in question I just had my heart broken =(

I new it was going to be expansive but not by this much and I am not a pro photographer who can afford a $1000 backdrop either

I just got off the phone with the artist from Oliphant Studio and to rent their backdrops falls in the $400 neighborhood and to buy them outright is in the $1000. I wasn't asking for a handout but I told her that I am no a professional and I didn't expect it to be so expensive and then she said that it may seem that way but it's rather the norm and then she told me that I may want to look at backdrops from Denny and immediately felt a punch in my stomach. Well, I guess in a couple of years I can save up enough to buy a 5'x8' backdrop!

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Oct 20, 2010 at 11:08 AM
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The cure for your broken heart: Buy Canvas: learn how to stretch it, prime it, paint it and roll it up. Experiment enough and you'll have a stock of real canvas backdrops you can sell or rent.


Oct 20, 2010 at 11:22 AM
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I painted a 10' x 15' background a few years ago and documented the process here: http://super.nova.org/DPR/DIY02/

There's no compelling need to use heavier canvas because by the time you get a base coat of latex wall paint on muslin it takes care of the wrinkling problem.



Oct 20, 2010 at 01:14 PM
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cgardner wrote:
I painted a 10' x 15' background a few years ago and documented the process here: http://super.nova.org/DPR/DIY02/

There's no compelling need to use heavier canvas because by the time you get a base coat of latex wall paint on muslin it takes care of the wrinkling problem.


Thanks for sharing the process of making your own backdrop. I found some cheaper canvas drop cloth at walmart to experiment with. Now I just need to get primer, paint and roller!



Oct 20, 2010 at 01:27 PM
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jitu757 wrote:
I went to my local art supply store (Jerry's Artorama) and they carry 2 types of canvas cloth, primed and un-primed in cotton and linen. The primed are crazy expensive while un-primed are super cheap. I wasn't sure which to get but the people at the art store said that I should get the primed because if I paint over it and and roll it up or fold it then the paint won't crack or peel off. The reason I didn't get their primed canvas is because they would only sell me the entire roll and not by the yard
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Buy a tub of gesso and prime the canvas yourself, though gesso isn't cheap. And once done paint it all the wonderful colors you want. I do it all the time BTW..
Usually for half body portraits you can get away with buying stretched canvas already on a frame, it's easier to paint that way to. But for what you have in a roll, you just lay it out on the garage floor over some plastic garbage bags, gesso it, then after it dries, paint it the way you want.

In this case, start with your lightest grey first, paint the whole canvas that color, then take a slightly darker shade and paint a very strong vignette, water the paint down quite a bit nearer to the middle of the canvas so it's a muted color, then the darkest color and paint a strong vignette and also water it down near to boundaries..
Keep in mind to buy acrylic paint (easier to work with), but tell the art store you plan on rolling it up, they'll have paint that has better pigment, and paint that has better bonding agents, usually good (expensive) paint has best of both, but in your case you only really need a good bonding paint. Then once all that is done and over with, last step if you want, you buy a matte finish spray, and turn the canvas matte, it'll photograph better.

I've done that in the past and it's worked very well.
Ummm that or jump on Ebay and look up Muslin backgrounds grey/black and you'll find something close to what she has.


Oh and BTW, some paints you don't really need gesso with, and they'll work just fine, also there are dyes out there that'll work great, and in some cases are cheaper to buy but harder to use.



Oct 21, 2010 at 09:19 AM
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